On 14/09/2024 at 11:01, Dr. Gonzo said:

but more often than not the player gets their way (Gibbs and Kelly did eventually anyway).

Both of those were interstate "go home" deals. As most (almost all?) of the broken-contract deals are.

Don't see how a Petracca deal is more likely next year unless he really agrees to go to whoever can put together a decent offer - including WCE, Richmond etc.

He'll be 30 in 2026, but with 4 years left on a massive contract. Not exactly enticing. As I posted earlier in this thread, you look at previous huge trades for the likes of Dangerfield, Franklin, Judd - they were a lot younger than Trac when the trades went through and still with a lot of high-level footy left in them and worth selling the farm for.

  On 14/09/2024 at 14:37, bing181 said:

Don't see how a Petracca deal is more likely next year unless he really agrees to go to whoever can put together a decent offer - including WCE, Richmond etc.

Extending the trading of future draft picks to 2 yrs is the possible/likely catalyst.
 

Haven’t don’t the maths but how the introduction of Tassie impacts future draft pick order would be interesting…

  On 13/09/2024 at 07:43, Sideshow Bob said:

It's a bit chilly tonight, perfect weather for the Vineystroni soup

 

 

May as well leaver it for Petracca to cook. Make sure you have plenty of Oliver oil.

  On 14/09/2024 at 09:45, Vineytime said:

A conversation I had this week with a current connection of MFC. 

started with I can say anything sorry, elaborated to: 

- Trac wants two of Roffey, Pert, Richardson gone. 
- Senior players disappointed with how Trac let it play out, his parents heavily involved. 
- We are chasing one of WCE forwards pretty hard (didn’t say which one)

Nothing to ground breaking really…

The more I think about this, the more I don't believe it. Players might want a change of a coach or an assistant coach, change in gym conditions, change in training times - whatever! But players are NOT concerned with administration matters. That is the last thing they are interested in.

 

Sorry, but I think the originator of this story (and I don't necessarily mean Vineytime, it's possibly your source or the source of your source) is making it up to push an agenda. It just doesn't ring true.

  On 14/09/2024 at 22:21, Ollie fan said:

The more I think about this, the more I don't believe it. Players might want a change of a coach or an assistant coach, change in gym conditions, change in training times - whatever! But players are NOT concerned with administration matters. That is the last thing they are interested in.

 

Sorry, but I think the originator of this story (and I don't necessarily mean Vineytime, it's possibly your source or the source of your source) is making it up to push an agenda. It just doesn't ring true.

The strangest part is the suggestion of wanting 2 of the 3 gone. Well are they good at their role or not? If not, why want any of the 3 to stay? Doesn't add up to me.

  On 14/09/2024 at 22:27, rufus said:

The strangest part is the suggestion of wanting 2 of the 3 gone. Well are they good at their role or not? If not, why want any of the 3 to stay? Doesn't add up to me.

True. And they are all quite disconnected: one of the coaching staff, one of the paid admin, and a volunteer board member. 
 

It does not add up.

  On 14/09/2024 at 22:37, Ollie fan said:

True. And they are all quite disconnected: one of the coaching staff, one of the paid admin, and a volunteer board member. 
 

It does not add up.

Unless it does, because he pays attention to that kind of stuff

  On 14/09/2024 at 22:21, Ollie fan said:

The more I think about this, the more I don't believe it. Players might want a change of a coach or an assistant coach, change in gym conditions, change in training times - whatever! But players are NOT concerned with administration matters. That is the last thing they are interested in.

 

Sorry, but I think the originator of this story (and I don't necessarily mean Vineytime, it's possibly your source or the source of your source) is making it up to push an agenda. It just doesn't ring true.

@Vineytime never mentioned anything about it being an administration issue..

Clearly some players including Trac have a complete lack of trust in Pert and Richardson and that's been the noise over the past couple of weeks and clearly this is in line with the information VT is passing on.

Pert and Richardson have a big say in what goes on in the football department which the players are heavily involved with. Clearly under their leadership, some of the off field matters have not been handled well at all which is why there's a current external review going.

 

Some very clever puns in the last few days🤣. 

I have taken it upon myself as a connoisseur 😉 of all things related to Italian food and drink, to award a prize for the best. 

The contenders in no particular order are:

 

•   On 11/09/2024 at 21:31, Neil Crompton said:

  • I heard his Nona gave him a recipe for Humble Pie - but Tracc doesn’t like the taste.

  On 13/09/2024 at 07:43, Sideshow Bob said:

It's a bit chilly tonight, perfect weather for the Vineystroni soup

 

  On 14/09/2024 at 00:14, OhMyDees said:

Can wash it down with a Leoncelli Limoncello

 

  On 14/09/2024 at 00:29, John Crow Batty said:

And too much Oliver oil.

 

  On 14/09/2024 at 01:05, Fritta and Turner said:

tbh I prefer a frittata

 

The prize goes to @OhMyDees for Can wash it down with a Leoncelli Limoncello! 

Fittingly the prize is a virtual decanter of Luci's homemade Limoncello.

 

 

ps I decided against awarding a 🍋 to the least deserving.

Edited September 15, 2024Sep 15 by Lucifers Hero

  On 14/09/2024 at 11:36, whatwhat say what said:

this seems to be the vibe

richo will go soon, and pert will go before the bye next season

would be crazy if one player can have such a profound effect on three key off-field roles - president, ceo, and head of football

It does but it may of been the shakeup this club appeared to have needed. 

  On 14/09/2024 at 12:58, Undeeterred said:

You’re asking someone to bother summarising 282 pages of thread because you haven’t kept up. It’s kind of a lot to unpack mate 

Can you get me up to speed for year 12 Maths exam as well?

  On 14/09/2024 at 23:11, Superunknown said:

Unless it does, because he pays attention to that kind of stuff

I just don't believe players do. 
 

Also, if he is concerned about his brand and about the size of the club: why would he want to get rid of Roffey and Pert who oversaw a HUGE rise in membership?

This is all nonsense. He might have had issues about "culture" or game style or whatever, but not high-level administration. That is something that people like Peter Lawrence worry about. I don't  believe the original statement at all, and wonder who the "current connection with MFC" is....

 

Edited September 15, 2024Sep 15 by Ollie fan

  On 14/09/2024 at 09:45, Vineytime said:

A conversation I had this week with a current connection of MFC. 

started with I can say anything sorry, elaborated to: 

- Trac wants two of Roffey, Pert, Richardson gone. 
- Senior players disappointed with how Trac let it play out, his parents heavily involved. 
- We are chasing one of WCE forwards pretty hard (didn’t say which one)

Nothing to ground breaking really…

What is his problem with Pert and Richardson? Is it football-related, or that they didn't send him flowers after the accident?

I'll be honest. Last few years I had a boss who was excellent, and I mean excellent. But good God did I despise him. No personal manner about him. Would often infuriate me without even having a clue. I literally moved to get away from him. I'm not saying Pert or Richardson are like this but it is certainly possible to have everything going well but people want you gone.

  On 14/09/2024 at 23:48, leave it to deever said:

Can you get me up to speed for year 12 Maths exam as well?

Sure mate. I did mine 25 years ago so good luck with that. I don’t remember much 

  On 11/09/2024 at 10:13, Jaded No More said:

To be fair, Mother Theresa could promote this Parma and I would still maintain it sounds awful 😂

One of the greatest deceptions ever pulled off was the Catholic Church convincing society that Mother Theresa was in any way remotely, a “good person”. She was in actual fact, a psychopathic grifter with a penchant for other people’s suffering. 
 

Anyway, as you were….

  On 15/09/2024 at 10:08, Mel Bourne said:

One of the greatest deceptions ever pulled off was the Catholic Church convincing society that Mother Theresa was in any way remotely, a “good person”. She was in actual fact, a psychopathic grifter with a penchant for other people’s suffering. 
 

Anyway, as you were….

Huh? 😇 I mean you don't usually write [censored] on here @Mel Bourne - I think I need to do some research....

Edited September 15, 2024Sep 15 by Engorged Onion

  On 15/09/2024 at 09:00, biggestred said:

I'll be honest. Last few years I had a boss who was excellent, and I mean excellent. But good God did I despise him. No personal manner about him. Would often infuriate me without even having a clue. I literally moved to get away from him. I'm not saying Pert or Richardson are like this but it is certainly possible to have everything going well but people want you gone.

How can describe someone as excellent when they made you leave your job?

*Im going through a new boss adjustment so interested in general 

  On 15/09/2024 at 10:18, Engorged Onion said:

Huh? 😇 I mean you don't usually write [censored] on here @Mel Bourne - I think I need to do some research....

The only 'medicine' she would administer was panadol. She routinely refused medical procedures because she believed that the way to God was through suffering.

Her hospital was called "Home for the Dying" for a very good reason. Few who entered emerged alive.... 

  On 15/09/2024 at 22:21, Grr-owl said:

The only 'medicine' she would administer was panadol. She routinely refused medical procedures because she believed that the way to God was through suffering.

Her hospital was called "Home for the Dying" for a very good reason. Few who entered emerged alive.... 

sounds like she would have made a good CEO.

I'm so glad a select group of DL's have orchestrated the character assassination of a highly regarded world identity rather than digging up more crud on Pert, Roffey, Goodwin and Richardson! 

Edited September 15, 2024Sep 15 by waynewussell

  On 15/09/2024 at 10:43, DubDee said:

How can describe someone as excellent when they made you leave your job?

*Im going through a new boss adjustment so interested in general 

great logistically, very efficient, amazing data, highly intelligent, very good results.... but i hated being in the room with him by the end. 

Iv'e noticed an interesting development in this thread! Posters are now following an 'its all about me' trend!

Edited September 16, 2024Sep 16 by waynewussell

  On 15/09/2024 at 00:08, Ollie fan said:

I just don't believe players do. 
 

Also, if he is concerned about his brand and about the size of the club: why would he want to get rid of Roffey and Pert who oversaw a HUGE rise in membership?

This is all nonsense. He might have had issues about "culture" or game style or whatever, but not high-level administration. That is something that people like Peter Lawrence worry about. I don't  believe the original statement at all, and wonder who the "current connection with MFC" is....

 

I dont think you can credit roffey and pert with that feat. They almost fell into it as a result of the flag in 2021. You could argue they were at the helm when the numbers plateaud and fell in the years that followed.