16 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

I did a second coat of some trim upstairs . Not more than 30mins

Seems a bit damp and cool for painting 

1 hour ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

It was mentioned on here that in some years he is due to pocket as much as $1.7 mill. Perhaps one of them is 2025 and getting that out of the way together with his preferred destination clubs having twelve months to do some financial housekeeping is what we’re seeing play out here. 

Would not surprise me. That peak in his contract would be tough for any potential suitors to digest.

There seems to have been leaking/backgrounding from both ends so there it feels there is a splash of acrimony in the air.

If Trac came out in a press conference I would be more confident that issues have genuinely been resolved, as it stands at the moment it just looks like a carefully worded press release designed to cool things down for now.

But hey, maybe the Dees pick up someone to add to the foward line, a big pre-season and a good start next year and dynamics can easily shift and MFC get their mojo back ...

 

1 hour ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

It was mentioned on here that in some years he is due to pocket as much as $1.7 mill. Perhaps one of them is 2025 and getting that out of the way together with his preferred destination clubs having twelve months to do some financial housekeeping is what we’re seeing play out here. 

If the $1.7 is for 2025 wouldn't the club take slight unders in a trade to get the $ off its books?  A form of 'salary dumping'.

 

3 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

I grew up in Mooroolbark and moved from there 25years ago and if I never see Ringwood again it will be too soon.

Why’s that?

Lived in Nth Ringwood from 1991-2010

Nice weatherboard house with a lovely garden, great neighbours & friends.

But then again I’m not too entitled 

Not prestigious enough for you?

 

1 hour ago, binman said:

Sure, though pick 5 is a good start.

Am I right to say we haven't traded our second round pick?

If not we'll have a mid twenty draft pick which might add a future best 22 player if we get it right.

After that tge draft is a lottery.

So we'll need to trade in at least two best 22 players.

That's a tall order, but with nibbla's, Gus BBB and smiths salary off the books, we'll have some room in our salary cap to be a meaningful player in trade season.

We traded our second rounder to Adelaide for McAdam, but will likely get that pick back for Nibbler.

I'd hope we'd get another pick this year and one next year to help us with NGA for Nibbler.

Best 22, premiership player, a year younger than McAdam. I'd hope we want more than what we traded for McAdam. 

22 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

rab, i think what you have just seen here is a very poorly orchestrated plot by petracca's player manager

at the end of the day it is all the player manager's responsibility.

i have little doubt he has been doing a lot of leaking under the illusion he was agent 86  maxwell smart

Agreed daisy. Although I think it has more to do with his *cough* media content and brand manager. I'm sure both our club and his actual manager will be working behind the scenes over the next 12 months to get their own respective ducks in a row should we find ourselves back in this place next year.  Brand Petracca won't be caught with it's pants down again and there's any number of ways he can claim that the marriage isn't working if he's intent on getting out of it and to appease him we've likely agreed to consider this as a possibility. 

I expect that the chatter about him and Koz will be a constant noise throughout 2025 and we'd want to have a very good year on field to keep it in the background. 

14 hours ago, binman said:

It's more than likely he wanted out, noting he has not publicly said that.

But I'm not convinced that even if they had the capital the pies or the blues would trade in petracca.

At the least, not on the coin he's currently getting.

I'm relieved that Petracca has released a statement - if nothing else than it gets the club out of the bad media spotlight for a bit.
However, I did find the statement both interesting and disappointing by what it didn't say.  It has been very carefully crafted.  For example:

• He says he loves his footy... but nowhere does he express his love for the club - where he has won a premierships and north smith with many of his closest mates.  Usually this type of statement would have something like "I love my footy, I love this club - the players, the staff, the fans..."
• On his future he "remains committed to the red and blue" but it doesn't say for life or for his contract etc
• He also says "I voiced my concerns as a leader, wanting better for our club, playing group, and fans."  Maybe this is accurate - maybe he was doing the hard thing and trying to generate the change needed.  But from the snippets in the media, this seems more revisionist history being written and (until there's reason to think otherwise) the reference to wanting better for the fans seems disingenuous.  

i guess we'll have to wait to hear what he actually says when he's interviewed about it all.

23 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

If the $1.7 is for 2025 wouldn't the club take slight unders in a trade to get the $ off its books?  A form of 'salary dumping'.

 

Hi Luci. Yeah, perhaps. I just get the feeling that it's caught everyone just enough off guard to be able push it over the line. For us, in our ability to get enough value back on the field for the immediate future and for the potential suitors to perform the list management and salary cap gymnastics required.

15 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Agreed daisy. Although I think it has more to do with his *cough* media content and brand manager. I'm sure both our club and his actual manager will be working behind the scenes over the next 12 months to get their own respective ducks in a row should we find ourselves back in this place next year.  Brand Petracca won't be caught with it's pants down again and there's any number of ways he can claim that the marriage isn't working if he's intent on getting out of it and to appease him we've likely agreed to consider this as a possibility. 

I expect that the chatter about him and Koz will be a constant noise throughout 2025 and we'd want to have a very good year on field to keep it in the background. 

agree about the media brand manager aspect, however this still comes under the aegis of his player manager, after all this is an afl draft environment and operates under those rules and conditions, It just illustrates the player manager's lack of control and/or competence over his players total situation

44 minutes ago, Billy said:

Why’s that?

Lived in Nth Ringwood from 1991-2010

Nice weatherboard house with a lovely garden, great neighbours & friends.

But then again I’m not too entitled 

Not prestigious enough for you?

 

Too prestigious, I live in a tiny country town.

It's, like so many other places, over populated and I don't like neighbours 😂

20 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Hi Luci. Yeah, perhaps. I just get the feeling that it's caught everyone just enough off guard to be able push it over the line. For us, in our ability to get enough value back on the field for the immediate future and for the potential suitors to perform the list management and salary cap gymnastics required.

Hi Rab.  Good points.

The club now has time to work on a trade on its terms rather than his next year, if things don't work out.

 

Off field #1 goal next year is minimal bad press from anyone.  Hopefully, the public dialogue by both parties stops and if the media start it up next year both club and Christian jointly shut it down. 

Of course winning will help.

Edited September 1, 2024Sep 1 by Lucifers Hero

2 hours ago, Monbon said:

' and I point out that neither Tracc nor MFC have come out for weeks to say it isn’t true or challenged the veracity of any claims, despite being one of the biggest stories of the last few years'

Pert, Roffey, and Goodwin have all denied it all along. Sorry to quote the horse's mouth...Nobody in the press asked Petracca to confirm or deny. 

 

That Petracca explanation of his silence being, ‘nobody in the press asked’, is one of the best things I’ve read on Demonland! I imagine Tracc sitting at home, watching all of these completely made up stories,  saying to himself ‘man I wish someone from the press would just ask me! None of this is true! But what can I do? I have no way of communicating to large groups of people telling them I’m definitely staying at the Dees’ *posts a food recipe on his Instagram to hundreds of thousands of people*

Oh yeah I remember that time Pert, Goodwin and Roffey all came out and in the strongest terms said this entire situation is just a fiction made up by the media. 

That’s definitely a thing that happened.

“He’s a contracted player at our club, as I said, we love him, and we’re working through it with him, with the player leadership group, with the coaches, and you know, we will find a resolution to this,” Roffey said.

Weird how Roffey talked about finding ‘a resolution to this’ (player leadership group AND coaches no less) in the Whateley interview when this entire thing is just made up by the media. 
 

Almost the exact opposite of ‘denied it all along’ 

🥴

 

1 hour ago, Billy said:

Why’s that?

Lived in Nth Ringwood from 1991-2010

Nice weatherboard house with a lovely garden, great neighbours & friends.

But then again I’m not too entitled 

Not prestigious enough for you?

 

Waste of a perfectly good orchard.

12 hours ago, Demonsone said:

Actions speak louder than words! Club needs to shut up and don’t discuss culture etc etc! A lot has been spoken and club knows the issues so fix it and let your footy do the talking! 

As one of my primary school teachers used to say "res non verba". 

6 hours ago, Deefiant said:

I don't think anyone should be questioning Trac's committment to the club. Watching him spill his frustration about how poorly we were playing in the last couple of games shows how much he cares about the club. He decided to continue to play on with broken ribs and heavy internal injuries. 

I think Trac's frustrations is that he does not see the club being able to compete at the top level with his expectations. I can't say I disagree with him watching us this year. 

Hopefully this boldens us. Gets us to reflect on our mistakes and back into contention next year. I can see trac been real fired up to show everyone we have a point to prove. I can see him pushing himself to be the top player in the comp instead of thereabouts. Of course it could also go the other way. Was hoping we would see a different clarry this year after last season but that didnt pan out. 

Tracc has a massive opportunity to show what he is made of and lead us on to another flag.

4 hours ago, layzie said:

Its a shame all this media took away from Collingwood missing this 8 after being premiers. That's usually an embarrassing achievement that needs to be punished.

".... oh, but they were so desperately unlucky to only draw with Essendon. If they won that they would be in the 8", without saying how many close ones they won and how many close ones we lost.

4 hours ago, Demonised said:

So we're now at the 'reconciliation' stage of the 'reconciliation-redemption' narrative arc.

I'm looking forward to the next stage.

Redemption for Tracc would include Brownlow, Premiership, Norm Smith and Coleman.  Is he up to it?

Unsurprising if he’s gone end next year 

27 minutes ago, monoccular said:

As one of my primary school teachers used to say "res non verba". 

Tracc has a massive opportunity to show what he is made of and lead us on to another flag.

".... oh, but they were so desperately unlucky to only draw with Essendon. If they won that they would be in the 8", without saying how many close ones they won and how many close ones we lost.

Redemption for Tracc would include Brownlow, Premiership, Norm Smith and Coleman.  Is he up to it?

🤣🤣

The Petracca thing was upsetting and clearly there’s work to do on his side and the clubs side to get the relationship fixed. But a year is a looong tune in footy. Our list is strong, some new assistant coaches, another good draft and another preseason into our young guns and Clayton means we’re undoubtedly better next year.

As for the media, let’s just look at the scoreboard. 

Petty to Adelaide at the end of 2024, Nup 

Clayton disgruntled and leaving, Nup

Viney to Roos, Nup

Trac leaving, Nup

Kozzie leaving, Nup

ANB, no reports until the DAY the club announced it, that’s a Nup.

The Media is 0/6 for 2024 for our club.

Whatever player manager scuttlebutt and contract play the media picked up on their narratives about us are always worse than the actuality, compare that to talk about culture with Geelong and Stengle and the Pies with Noble etc. Crickets.
You think maybe the media already knew the hatchet job they wanted to do on the MFC and just waited 3 years for our on-field to drop off to the extent they could jump on us about anything they could find? Sure looks like it!

Edited September 1, 2024Sep 1 by deejammin'

2 hours ago, Billy said:

Why’s that?

Lived in Nth Ringwood from 1991-2010

Nice weatherboard house with a lovely garden, great neighbours & friends.

But then again I’m not too entitled 

Not prestigious enough for you?

 

Nth Ringers is not the hood though. that’s the nice bit. Near the station got pretty stabby after 2000. 

I grew up there

I've met your type. Say no more.

Must be good to wake up every morning so certain that once again, you are right.

29 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Nth Ringers is not the hood though. that’s the nice bit. Near the station got pretty stabby after 2000. 

I grew up there

The 80s there weren't flash either, I was a kid then but if half the stories about the Ringwood boys were true...

 

Any way, Back to Trac... YAY! 😂

I think I said this elsewhere but I would not be surprised if he doesn't play many games in 2025. It was a big bad injury he sustained. Add mental problems.  I am worried he might struggle. 

Edited September 1, 2024Sep 1 by old dee

I've been wondering through this whole bloody saga whether we have seen the best of him and  a trade might of been the go. I guess now it's just wait and see. 

This is my first post in this thread.

Of all the constant complaining on here about the medias role in this extremely distasteful episode in the year from hell, that statement by the clubs media has to be right up there as the greatest bit of rubbish of the lot. I don't forgive him and would prefer he was gone for whatever we could have got. That bloke has a long way to go to repair the damage he and his Brand Management have done to this club.

I hope we still find a way to get him off the books this year.

 

Comical how salty this bloke is. AFL media should be ashamed of themselves.