43 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mark-robinson-former-melbourne-president-joe-gutnick-backs-calls-for-a-fullscale-review-of-embattled-demons/news-story/9636566a415bf3fefa9d5d4aad9b4cd5?amp

Gutnick’s concerns comes as the Herald Sun can reveal Petracca’s partner Isabella Beischer – formerly a lawyer at the Hall & Wilcox legal firm, is now the business manager of Trac 5 Pty Ltd.

She is the key driver of “Brand Petracca”, which reportedly is one of reasons influencing Petracca’s desire to pursue a trade to a big Melbourne club.

She became Petracca’s business manager in April this year, two months prior to Petracca being severely injured in the King’s Birthday clash with Collingwood

The rat in the ranks....

How could we be so blind.

5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Should say it’s THE reason influencing his desire for a trade to a big club. 

If you just wanted to get out of our club, whose direction you seem to dislike so much, you would be open to be traded to any club where you could see yourself succeed and be happy. 

The motives cannot be clearer or more shallow. 
Unfortunately because this club has no brand management skills, they’ve let a player and his partner control the narrative.

It is an absolute indictment on this club and its leaders, that they knew for months that Trac was unhappy, knew the dangerous “social management” path he was on, and yet let it fester and explode to the point that he has been allowed to publicly urinate on our club for weeks, all for the sake of his own brand! 
 

And urinate on the supporters too! 😡

2 minutes ago, layzie said:

The rat in the ranks....

How could we be so blind.

To be fair it’s been noted here for days, but Demonland rightly doesn’t want one person targeted who is a private person not involved in the club. 

3 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

To be fair it’s been noted here for days, but Demonland rightly doesn’t want one person targeted who is a private person not involved in the club. 

Those credentials do sound terrifying tbf

1 minute ago, John Demonic said:

Those credentials do sound terrifying tbf

Which credentials terrify you? The lawyer part? 

26 minutes ago, Dee*ceiving said:

This is the biggest, most public, urgent issue facing any club in the league. It's embarrassing, distracting and disturbing for the players, sponsors, members and supporters.  The media and other clubs are picking at our bones like buzzards and she's barely across the details. 

She's relying on process and structure to solve a giant problem. Roll your sleeves up and get involved.  She could have convinced us she was heavily involved without disclosing specifics. But she didn't, because she's not. 

Sorry, simply not good enough. 

What a sensible, perceptive comment. Spot on. Not good enough.

55 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mark-robinson-former-melbourne-president-joe-gutnick-backs-calls-for-a-fullscale-review-of-embattled-demons/news-story/9636566a415bf3fefa9d5d4aad9b4cd5?amp

Gutnick’s concerns comes as the Herald Sun can reveal Petracca’s partner Isabella Beischer – formerly a lawyer at the Hall & Wilcox legal firm, is now the business manager of Trac 5 Pty Ltd.

She is the key driver of “Brand Petracca”, which reportedly is one of reasons influencing Petracca’s desire to pursue a trade to a big Melbourne club.

She became Petracca’s business manager in April this year, two months prior to Petracca being severely injured in the King’s Birthday clash with Collingwood

Paging @Chook in Perth looks like it’s fair game now.

So it’s all coming from his Mrs?

Probably explains lacking proper football procedures and misinformation on how trades work.

Much clearer now.

I'd very much doubt it is all coming from her, that would be naive to think so.

59 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mark-robinson-former-melbourne-president-joe-gutnick-backs-calls-for-a-fullscale-review-of-embattled-demons/news-story/9636566a415bf3fefa9d5d4aad9b4cd5?amp

Gutnick’s concerns comes as the Herald Sun can reveal Petracca’s partner Isabella Beischer – formerly a lawyer at the Hall & Wilcox legal firm, is now the business manager of Trac 5 Pty Ltd.

She is the key driver of “Brand Petracca”, which reportedly is one of reasons influencing Petracca’s desire to pursue a trade to a big Melbourne club.

She became Petracca’s business manager in April this year, two months prior to Petracca being severely injured in the King’s Birthday clash with Collingwood

and are the Pies the platform for Brand Petracca. 

The whole only wants a trade to a 'big Melbourne club' angle was always a give away

If the relationship between CP & the MFC is that bad he'd be open to almost anywhere

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by adonski

1 minute ago, SFebes said:

I'd very much doubt it is all coming from her, that would be naive to think so.

A wife or partner can have massive influence, esp if she has taken over his business matters.

Shed be in his ear every day.

49 minutes ago, gs77 said:

Do better.

Tom Morris going after Kate Roffey must be a wet dream for all these forum Sam Newmans

1 hour ago, bing181 said:

"can be fatal" to "I nearly died" is quite the jump. Though once again, the surgeon never said he nearly died.

Yes, it is quite the jump but in my experience it's one that individuals or their family may take during the stress of the event. Unfortunately, these embellishments can be unhelpful - and are worth dispelling - as they enhance the psychological trauma of the experience. 

In this case, a clearer perception is "could have been fatal if untreated but very unlikely to have been so given access to necessary interventions". 

Trac is a grown man. Blaming his missus is low. He’s been promoting his brand before she came on the scene so just as likely she’s doing what he wants her to do. 

Im not sure I believe the big club comments or the big crowds things tbh. 

There are four big clubs not just two for a start.

 

Well this is a gross turn of events isn’t it…makes so much sense. Though

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mark-robinson-former-melbourne-president-joe-gutnick-backs-calls-for-a-fullscale-review-of-embattled-demons/news-story/9636566a415bf3fefa9d5d4aad9b4cd5?amp

Gutnick’s concerns comes as the Herald Sun can reveal Petracca’s partner Isabella Beischer – formerly a lawyer at the Hall & Wilcox legal firm, is now the business manager of Trac 5 Pty Ltd.

She is the key driver of “Brand Petracca”, which reportedly is one of reasons influencing Petracca’s desire to pursue a trade to a big Melbourne club.

She became Petracca’s business manager in April this year, two months prior to Petracca being severely injured in the King’s Birthday clash with Collingwood

Joe Gutnick?! Oy Vey! That's a name I haven't heard in many years!

I appreciate the fact he helped save the Demons from being merged with the Hawks way back in 1996. But his Presidency was full of dramas from what I remember.

Didn't he go bankrupt? From what I recall "Diamond" Joe still owes the Melbourne Football Club $500,000 doesn't he?

We also missed out on getting Olympic Park as a Home Base under Joe's Presidency. Although, Eddie McGuire's machinations were at play there too against the Melbourne Football Club and getting the Magpies to swoop into that opportunity.

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by Supreme_Demon

6 minutes ago, BDA said:

Trac is a grown man. Blaming his missus is low. He’s been promoting his brand before she came on the scene so just as likely she’s doing what he wants her to do. 

and is now trashing it

 This gives some insights into Christian and his life and his vision

 

 

23 minutes ago, layzie said:

The rat in the ranks....

How could we be so blind.

I mentioned this person by name and the damage she was doing in a post a few days ago, however, quite appropriately my post was rejected as the moderator stated that they didn’t want anyone named on this site.

Andy has literally said to keep it all in one Petracca thread....

Begs the question of what role had “the big Melbourne club” in all of this if true?  Surely any business manager would have sought out approval from the big club to follow a pathway to get X to said big club. Sounds implausible or very naive they would have acted on their own. I wonder what machinations would need to be employed since getting X  to move to the “big club” by normal channels would have been very difficult.

Edited August 29, 2024Aug 29 by John Crow Batty

“Hasn’t told me a thing (about wanting to play elsewhere),” Gawn told 7NEWS at the All-Australian awards.

“He’s told me some frustrations he has with the club and I told him some frustrations I have with the club. And that’s where we got to.

“At the moment, he has shown some frustrations, which to be fair some of them I agree with, some of them I don’t, but that what makes leadership groups fun, having some different opinions.

“There’s no real repairing needed if he walks back in day one.”

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-captain-max-gawn-sheds-more-light-on-christian-petracca-situation-c-15876595

 

Whether it's warranted or not, other people close to Trac being dragged into this, either by the media or the club, is certainly not going to help diffuse the situation. Especially if Trac's camp thinks the club is leaking against them