The most damning thing for Goodwin at the moment is that the review conducted at the end of last season clearly articulated that the broad expectation was that the List was good enough to not just play finals but to contend. This tightens the screws significantly on Goodwin. Once the CEO is brought in I suspect that review will be scrutinised and in effect, Goodwin and co. Unless we somehow work our way back to at least close to finals, I can't see how Goodwin coaches next year.

5 minutes ago, praha said:

The most damning thing for Goodwin at the moment is that the review conducted at the end of last season clearly articulated that the broad expectation was that the List was good enough to not just play finals but to contend. This tightens the screws significantly on Goodwin. Once the CEO is brought in I suspect that review will be scrutinised and in effect, Goodwin and co. Unless we somehow work our way back to at least close to finals, I can't see how Goodwin coaches next year.

I don't give a fat rats clacker about 2026, lets make the move and replace him Now, to arrest the Gaping wound!

8 minutes ago, praha said:

The most damning thing for Goodwin at the moment is that the review conducted at the end of last season clearly articulated that the broad expectation was that the List was good enough to not just play finals but to contend. This tightens the screws significantly on Goodwin. Once the CEO is brought in I suspect that review will be scrutinised and in effect, Goodwin and co. Unless we somehow work our way back to at least close to finals, I can't see how Goodwin coaches next year.

...next year ?

Next week !!!

I was in the ‘Goodwin has until mid-year’ camp, but under him the rot has not just continued, but accelerated.

He needs to get the flick ASAP

22 minutes ago, BDA said:

I’d eat some of tracs wages to make it happen

And I'd eat some of his meals.

33 minutes ago, praha said:

The most damning thing for Goodwin at the moment is that the review conducted at the end of last season clearly articulated that the broad expectation was that the List was good enough to not just play finals but to contend. This tightens the screws significantly on Goodwin. Once the CEO is brought in I suspect that review will be scrutinised and in effect, Goodwin and co. Unless we somehow work our way back to at least close to finals, I can't see how Goodwin coaches next year.

winning enough games to save Goodwin is worse case scenario. the pimple needs to be popped so we can move forward. stumbling in to 2026 off a 8 win season with Goodwin still at the helm, would be a disaster.

38 minutes ago, praha said:

The most damning thing for Goodwin at the moment is that the review conducted at the end of last season clearly articulated that the broad expectation was that the List was good enough to not just play finals but to contend. This tightens the screws significantly on Goodwin. Once the CEO is brought in I suspect that review will be scrutinised and in effect, Goodwin and co. Unless we somehow work our way back to at least close to finals, I can't see how Goodwin coaches next year.

It’s curtains for him! I’m sorry you don’t improve your list with VFL mature age players & no disrespect to them , consider who the pies, cats, lions, swans & hawks have traded in, his game plan is shot with zero defensive & contest, played with a fwd line of Jvr the only tall, this is comical!

1 hour ago, Sideshow Bob said:

Really don't understand the view of if we lose against freo and richmond then....

It's already broken and need of blowing up and restarting. Either the message is wrong, the communication of the message is wrong or the players won't or can't fulfill the message. In any case that's on the coaching group. The coaching group needs to be changed.

Waiting for more losses won't help anything other than demoralising the group even more. With any caretaker coach the losses won't matter as much and each day/week gets closer to the end goal of new coaching group with different viewpoints/communication.

Blow it up now.

I think he’s already done, but history would say sacking the coach this early in the year isn’t useful, I think we just need to wait till the bye and that will be it, hard to see us been any better than 3 and 9

5 hours ago, Tracca said:

no one cares about losing fan favourites, we want to win.

Clarry- love him but if hes a culture killer then go

Trac- if the players resent him because hes too much about himself, and causing rifts because he wants it his way, then go

viney- yes your a legends son but you are the biggest momentum killer out there, time to retire or go

goodwin- you won us a premiership, thankyou, but your voice is no longer being heard.

selwyn- mate you are no good, we have gone completely backwards since you took over

choco- you are part of the goodwin clan, time to move on

we need a fresh coach with fresh ideas, and his own fleet of assistants. do a proper clean out.

Good post.

Yes it's time for Goody to go but we need a complete shake up not just a new coach.

I was dead against losing Trac or Clarry but something tells me both need to go.

And whoever else is responsible for overseeing the mess we are in without taking action needs to go with them.

Problem is I don't think Brad Green or whoever else is steering this ship has the cahunas to make the changes required.

It looks to me like many of our players may have had their natural instincts and flare coached out of them by being so process and defence driven. They currently play with no joy and appear weighed down by the burden of trying to implement a style of play they don’t yet know or may not have the skills to implement. Watching the Tigers now, they are having fun and playing with flare and an attacking mindset. Yes they make mistakes but with so many kids playing for them, they look like they are on the right path and much more connected than our team.

The Club needs to start searching for a New Coach and High Performance Manager today.

Find the Best out there. Goodwin and Selwyn must be moved on

We are not Mentally and Physically fit enough to play 4 Quarters

The 3rd Quarter proved they can do it, but there is NO DESIRE to finish the Job.

Start Searching now….

No senior players have improved in the past 2 years

This club is an embarrassment to its supporters. No mental strength, no leadership.

Same problems, same responses

Heads need to roll before the band damage is irreparable

Go now

Edited yesterday at 03:481 day by jnrmac

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Next year? How about next month.

11 minutes ago, Big Gun said:

It looks to me like many of our players may have had their natural instincts and flare coached out of them by being so process and defence driven. They currently play with no joy and appear weighed down by the burden of trying to implement a style of play they don’t yet know or may not have the skills to implement. Watching the Tigers now, they are having fun and playing with flare and an attacking mindset. Yes they make mistakes but with so many kids playing for them, they look like they are on the right path and much more connected than our team.

Mate, you are spot on. I've been a fan of Goody but seriously he needs to be charged and go to court on murder charges as he is killing us with his game plan and lack of flair. Even the highly skilled youngsters that have just come in seem to be lost. We had over half the team last night that played in the GF and whilst it is 4 years ago only Gawn and Langdon are playing anywhere near their 21 forms. The rest of our coaches need to either get this team going or they need to also go including one of our favorite sons in Jones. Williams as skills coach also as our skill level is awful. Then we do kick well to the opposition!

20 minutes ago, Big Gun said:

It looks to me like many of our players may have had their natural instincts and flare coached out of them by being so process and defence driven. They currently play with no joy and appear weighed down by the burden of trying to implement a style of play they don’t yet know or may not have the skills to implement. Watching the Tigers now, they are having fun and playing with flare and an attacking mindset. Yes they make mistakes but with so many kids playing for them, they look like they are on the right path and much more connected than our team.

Have a look at that effort from McIntosh in the 2nd quarter, repeat efforts in the centre square from a veteran showing the level of effort expected to the kids coming through. When was the last time we saw those kinds of efforts from our senior players? Viney last year maybe but definitely nothing from any of them this year.

This was easy to predict what was going to happen the game changed we didn't you cannot keep going to the well year after year with a one paced poorly skilled midfield and a dysfunctional forward line now the club has to make some very hard decisions on some senior popular players, the question is do they have the balls to do it.

13 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The Club needs to start searching for a New Coach and High Performance Manager today.

Find the Best out there. Goodwin and Selwyn must be moved on

We are not Mentally and Physically fit enough to play 4 Quarters

The 3rd Quarter proved they can do it, but there is NO DESIRE to finish the Job.

Start Searching now….

Add Richo and probably Williams and Lamb to the list too. Big cleanout required.

Edited yesterday at 04:001 day by Dr. Gonzo

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Have a look at that effort from McIntosh in the 2nd quarter, repeat efforts in the centre square from a veteran showing the level of effort expected to the kids coming through. When was the last time we saw those kinds of efforts from our senior players? Viney last year maybe but definitely nothing from any of them this year.

AJ is probably the only one I've seen doing similar.

Maybe Langford and Langdon. Chandler was busting his guts too but disappeared last night.

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Add Richo and probably Williams and Lamb to the list too. Big cleanout required. No

choc should have gone years ago - our skill level is non existent and has regressed year on year

lamb should go for trading what will be pick 1 or 2 plus extra 2nd rounders for the pick that became lindsay; as good as he might become, that one has the chance to haunt us for two decades

griffiths has gotta go - our fitness has dropped off the cliff this year in particular

i don't know what richardson does, but as the man ostensibly in charge of the entire football dept it appears he oversees a rabble

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Add Richo and probably Williams and Lamb to the list too. Big cleanout required.

Yes, but should it all be done in one go?

Not sure. But the Cleanout is necessary

Jason Taylor and Lamb may not be part of the problem

It's OK, goody said he's confident it will turn around & we'll come good

Well I hope it comes quickly because we've had a horrible 5 weeks

11 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

It's OK, goody said he's confident it will turn around & we'll come good

Well I hope it comes quickly because we've had a horrible 5 weeks

But we lost 5 of the last 6 games in 2024.

So you could easily say we've lost 10 of the last 11 games now

1 hour ago, praha said:

The most damning thing for Goodwin at the moment is that the review conducted at the end of last season clearly articulated that the broad expectation was that the List was good enough to not just play finals but to contend. This tightens the screws significantly on Goodwin. Once the CEO is brought in I suspect that review will be scrutinised and in effect, Goodwin and co. Unless we somehow work our way back to at least close to finals, I can't see how Goodwin coaches next year.

It's pretty clear the review was a smokescreen. Deemocracy lobbied for an external review. The club didn't want to do one initially, but eventually bowed to this external pressure.

Unfortunately, as the closed shop at board level remains, we got a tokenistic "external" review where Shand and Crowe were to restore harmony and team spirit. But has anyone heard from Shand and Crowe? Mentally, we went to water in Round 2.

Green is a sycophant, his conversation with Clarry was all about the past, and nothing about Oliver's past 24 months, or the standards the club needs to set for the future.

Green and the board need to take full responsibility and Smith needs to get the new CEO installed asap. Would any other club take 4-5 months to find a new CEO? I get we don't want just anyone, but our inability to land one should set off alarm bells with this administration.

We need significant on and off field change over the next 6-9 months, and unfortunately I have no trust whatsoever in this board to put in place competent people.

Edited 23 hours ago23 hr by Adam The God

55 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The Club needs to start searching for a New Coach and High Performance Manager today.

Find the Best out there. Goodwin and Selwyn must be moved on

We are not Mentally and Physically fit enough to play 4 Quarters

The 3rd Quarter proved they can do it, but there is NO DESIRE to finish the Job.

Start Searching now….

The fish rots from the head and your mate Green is front and centre.

8 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

The fish rots from the head and your mate Green is front and centre.

I don’t think Brad is the Problem

This is football Department and Fitness