Mickey 4,777 Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 1 minute ago, adonski said: Pies given up a lot Pick 1* next year, for a start... Probably not but we can always dream 3 Quote
BAMF 4,483 Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 Port the immediate losers. Pies did ok. Suns did well. 2 Quote
Little Goffy 14,963 Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 Gold coast with two extra first round picks in 2025. What? Is their academy closing down? Clear winners out of this, not only in trade value. Can you imagine the joy of death-riding BOTH Port and Collingwood in the same season? 1 2 Quote
BAMF 4,483 Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Little Goffy said: Gold coast with two extra first round picks in 2025. What? Is their academy closing down? Clear winners out of this, not only in trade value. Can you imagine the joy of death-riding BOTH Port and Collingwood in the same season? They didn't want pick 13, Atkins or Lukosius. Big winners. Edited October 15, 2024 by BAMF 1 Quote
John Demonic 5,988 Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Little Goffy said: Gold coast with two extra first round picks in 2025. What? Is their academy closing down? Clear winners out of this, not only in trade value. Can you imagine the joy of death-riding BOTH Port and Collingwood in the same season? That's called Prison wardening 1 Quote
At Least I Saw a Flag 5,353 Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 .... and the rich get richer .... 1 Quote
Rab D Nesbitt 8,955 Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 Moves from Sodom to Gomorrah on a six year contract. 3 1 Quote
VNightCityLegend 168 Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 Would be nice to have landed him, but very overrated in the regard of the media trying to paint Collingwood as outright flag favorites just because of this very acquisition. Not a top 10 player, not overly quick and for all the talk, only rated 15 by Champion data. 28, so people really see that much more improvement in him? 1 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,857 Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 12 minutes ago, VNightCityLegend said: Would be nice to have landed him, but very overrated in the regard of the media trying to paint Collingwood as outright flag favorites just because of this very acquisition. Not a top 10 player, not overly quick and for all the talk, only rated 15 by Champion data. 28, so people really see that much more improvement in him? do you mean he's rated 15th in the competition by champion data? i rate houston so highly; would have suited our side perfectly very annoying he's landed at the filth 2 1 Quote
Wells 11 5,502 Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 6 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said: do you mean he's rated 15th in the competition by champion data? i rate houston so highly; would have suited our side perfectly very annoying he's landed at the filth agreed. Let’s hope the draft pick brings with it a different kind of hope. 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted October 15, 2024 Posted October 15, 2024 Pies are laughing !!! Port talked a tough stance. “2x FIRST round picks only !!” ”He’s contracted for 3 more years” ”Happy to stay if no deal” ”not taking that deal” then it’s fine and done next day Port are clowns effectively given up Houston for 13 (16) and 29 (34) - yes middle/late 1st round and middle 2nd round pick. Wow. effectively traded away future 1st round for Lukosius. effectively given up Houston to a competitive premiership opponent Helped Suns offload $1.3m off their salary books by taking Lukosius and Atkins who often weren’t in their best 22. 3 1 Quote
Witches Hat 494 Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said: Pies are laughing !!! Port talked a tough stance. “2x FIRST round picks only !!” ”He’s contracted for 3 more years” ”Happy to stay if no deal” ”not taking that deal” then it’s fine and done next day Port are clowns effectively given up Houston for 13 (16) and 29 (34) - yes middle/late 1st round and middle 2nd round pick. Wow. effectively traded away future 1st round for Lukosius. effectively given up Houston to a competitive premiership opponent Helped Suns offload $1.3m off their salary books by taking Lukosius and Atkins who often weren’t in their best 22. Spot on SONS. Why would you willingly stengthen another contender? If Houston genuinely didn't care where he landed, surely North was the logical destination from a Port viewpoint. 1 Quote
Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,690 Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said: Port are clowns... ...from Killing Eve. Look how that ended for their client! 1 Quote
Demon17 5,262 Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 3 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said: Pies are laughing !!! Port talked a tough stance. “2x FIRST round picks only !!” ”He’s contracted for 3 more years” ”Happy to stay if no deal” ”not taking that deal” then it’s fine and done next day Port are clowns effectively given up Houston for 13 (16) and 29 (34) - yes middle/late 1st round and middle 2nd round pick. Wow. effectively traded away future 1st round for Lukosius. effectively given up Houston to a competitive premiership opponent Helped Suns offload $1.3m off their salary books by taking Lukosius and Atkins who often weren’t in their best 22. On SEN this morning, G Lyon asked Port List manager Crips directly "...did the Suns pick up any payments for Lukosius's contract..." He didn't answer and fudged it meaning IMO Port are paying full tote for Jack and the Port fans should rightly be screaming. Cripps spent most of the interview justifying the deal to "..help the fans understand the thinking..." Trouble's a- brewing on this . Beats us being the story for a while now. 4 1 Quote
rufus 1,162 Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 7 minutes ago, Demon17 said: On SEN this morning, G Lyon asked Port List manager Crips directly "...did the Suns pick up any payments for Lukosius's contract..." He didn't answer and fudged it meaning IMO Port are paying full tote for Jack and the Port fans should rightly be screaming. Cripps spent most of the interview justifying the deal to "..help the fans understand the thinking..." Trouble's a- brewing on this . Beats us being the story for a while now. Out of interest, when did the idea of a club trading someone and continuing to pay part of their contract originate in the AFL? I don't really remember it prior to Grundy and as far as I know it doesn't happen in many other professional sports does it? At least it doesn't seem like in other sports you have players still being paid by a former club for multiple years after leaving? To me it just seems like a crazy path to go down. If you're going to part with a player it's hard to swallow the idea of paying them to play for someone else. 1 Quote
KozzyCan 973 Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 20 minutes ago, rufus said: Out of interest, when did the idea of a club trading someone and continuing to pay part of their contract originate in the AFL? I don't really remember it prior to Grundy and as far as I know it doesn't happen in many other professional sports does it? At least it doesn't seem like in other sports you have players still being paid by a former club for multiple years after leaving? To me it just seems like a crazy path to go down. If you're going to part with a player it's hard to swallow the idea of paying them to play for someone else. Collingwood had to do it with Treloar. I'm sure there have been others before that too. Ultimately it's all about managing the cap and sometimes that cap space in the short term can offer you better rewards in the long term. 1 Quote
Mouseymoo 378 Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 I don't understand why A) if Houston was happy staying if a fair deal wasn't reached they went ahead with this deal, and B) If he was happy going to any club then why all of a sudden did it turn into just Carlton or Collingwood when North had more trade currency. Houston full of it or something else happen behind the scenes? 1 Quote
Witches Hat 494 Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 19 hours ago, rufus said: Out of interest, when did the idea of a club trading someone and continuing to pay part of their contract originate in the AFL? I don't really remember it prior to Grundy and as far as I know it doesn't happen in many other professional sports does it? At least it doesn't seem like in other sports you have players still being paid by a former club for multiple years after leaving? To me it just seems like a crazy path to go down. If you're going to part with a player it's hard to swallow the idea of paying them to play for someone else. It's been going on for years. IIRC Richmond were paying a fair whack of Ben Holland's contract when he moved to the Dees. 1 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 I don't think Port did as well in the trade period as they think they did. Or think that they thought they did. 1 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 I just caught the tail-end of an SEN interview with Houston and from what I'm gathering our issues have literally cost us his services. Did anyone catch all of it? 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,457 Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, layzie said: I just caught the tail-end of an SEN interview with Houston and from what I'm gathering our issues have literally cost us his services. Did anyone catch all of it? Yes i heard it. Furious Pack ya Bags Pert…. 1 1 Quote
RedLegs23 1,139 Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) Yeah that was pretty embarrassing to hear… we had him, & just like that, we didn’t. #culture Edited October 17, 2024 by RedLegs23 1 2 1 Quote
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