1 minute ago, adonski said:

Pies given up a lot

Pick 1* next year, for a start...

 

Probably not but we can always dream

Port the immediate losers. 

Pies did ok.

Suns did well.

Gold coast with two extra first round picks in 2025.

What? Is their academy closing down?

Clear winners out of this, not only in trade value.

 

Can you imagine the joy of death-riding BOTH Port and Collingwood in the same season?

 

 

13 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Gold coast with two extra first round picks in 2025.

What? Is their academy closing down?

Clear winners out of this, not only in trade value.

 

Can you imagine the joy of death-riding BOTH Port and Collingwood in the same season?

 

 

They didn't want pick 13, Atkins or Lukosius.

Big winners.

Edited October 15, 2024Oct 15 by BAMF

1 hour ago, Little Goffy said:

Gold coast with two extra first round picks in 2025.

What? Is their academy closing down?

Clear winners out of this, not only in trade value.

 

Can you imagine the joy of death-riding BOTH Port and Collingwood in the same season?

 

 

That's called Prison wardening 

.... and the rich get richer ....

Moves from Sodom to Gomorrah on a six year contract. 

 

 

 

Would be nice to have landed him, but very overrated in the regard of the media trying to paint Collingwood as outright flag favorites just because of this very acquisition. 
 

Not a top 10 player, not overly quick and for all the talk, only rated 15 by Champion data. 28, so people really see that much more improvement in him? 

12 minutes ago, VNightCityLegend said:

Would be nice to have landed him, but very overrated in the regard of the media trying to paint Collingwood as outright flag favorites just because of this very acquisition. 
 

Not a top 10 player, not overly quick and for all the talk, only rated 15 by Champion data. 28, so people really see that much more improvement in him? 

do you mean he's rated 15th in the competition by champion data?

i rate houston so highly; would have suited our side perfectly

very annoying he's landed at the filth

6 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

do you mean he's rated 15th in the competition by champion data?

i rate houston so highly; would have suited our side perfectly

very annoying he's landed at the filth

agreed. Let’s hope the draft pick brings with it a different kind of hope. 

Pies are laughing !!! 
 

Port talked a tough stance.
“2x FIRST round picks only !!”

”He’s contracted for 3 more years”

”Happy to stay if no deal”

”not taking that deal”

then it’s fine and done next day 

Port are clowns 

effectively given up Houston for 13 (16) and 29 (34) - yes middle/late 1st round and middle 2nd round pick.  Wow. 

effectively traded away future 1st round for Lukosius.  

effectively given up Houston to a competitive premiership opponent 
 

Helped Suns offload $1.3m off their salary books by taking Lukosius and Atkins who often weren’t in their best 22.  

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Pies are laughing !!! 
 

Port talked a tough stance.
“2x FIRST round picks only !!”

”He’s contracted for 3 more years”

”Happy to stay if no deal”

”not taking that deal”

then it’s fine and done next day 

Port are clowns 

effectively given up Houston for 13 (16) and 29 (34) - yes middle/late 1st round and middle 2nd round pick.  Wow. 

effectively traded away future 1st round for Lukosius.  

effectively given up Houston to a competitive premiership opponent 
 

Helped Suns offload $1.3m off their salary books by taking Lukosius and Atkins who often weren’t in their best 22.  

Spot on SONS. Why would you willingly stengthen another contender? If Houston genuinely didn't care where he landed, surely North was the logical destination from a Port viewpoint.

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Port are clowns...

...from Killing Eve. Look how that ended for their client!

3 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Pies are laughing !!! 
 

Port talked a tough stance.
“2x FIRST round picks only !!”

”He’s contracted for 3 more years”

”Happy to stay if no deal”

”not taking that deal”

then it’s fine and done next day 

Port are clowns 

effectively given up Houston for 13 (16) and 29 (34) - yes middle/late 1st round and middle 2nd round pick.  Wow. 

effectively traded away future 1st round for Lukosius.  

effectively given up Houston to a competitive premiership opponent 
 

Helped Suns offload $1.3m off their salary books by taking Lukosius and Atkins who often weren’t in their best 22.  

On SEN this morning, G Lyon asked Port List manager Crips directly "...did the Suns pick up any payments for Lukosius's contract..."

He didn't answer and fudged it meaning IMO Port are paying full tote for Jack and the Port fans should rightly be screaming.  Cripps spent most of the interview justifying the deal to "..help the fans understand the thinking..."

Trouble's a- brewing on this .

Beats us being the story for a while now.

7 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

On SEN this morning, G Lyon asked Port List manager Crips directly "...did the Suns pick up any payments for Lukosius's contract..."

He didn't answer and fudged it meaning IMO Port are paying full tote for Jack and the Port fans should rightly be screaming.  Cripps spent most of the interview justifying the deal to "..help the fans understand the thinking..."

Trouble's a- brewing on this .

Beats us being the story for a while now.

Out of interest, when did the idea of a club trading someone and continuing to pay part of their contract originate in the AFL? I don't really remember it prior to Grundy and as far as I know it doesn't happen in many other professional sports does it? At least it doesn't seem like in other sports you have players still being paid by a former club for multiple years after leaving?

To me it just seems like a crazy path to go down. If you're going to part with a player it's hard to swallow the idea of paying them to play for someone else.

20 minutes ago, rufus said:

Out of interest, when did the idea of a club trading someone and continuing to pay part of their contract originate in the AFL? I don't really remember it prior to Grundy and as far as I know it doesn't happen in many other professional sports does it? At least it doesn't seem like in other sports you have players still being paid by a former club for multiple years after leaving?

To me it just seems like a crazy path to go down. If you're going to part with a player it's hard to swallow the idea of paying them to play for someone else.

Collingwood had to do it with Treloar. I'm sure there have been others before that too. Ultimately it's all about managing the cap and sometimes that cap space in the short term can offer you better rewards in the long term.

I don't understand why A) if Houston was happy staying if a fair deal wasn't reached they went ahead with this deal, and B) If he was happy going to any club then why all of a sudden did it turn into just Carlton or Collingwood when North had more trade currency. 

Houston full of it or something else happen behind the scenes? 

19 hours ago, rufus said:

Out of interest, when did the idea of a club trading someone and continuing to pay part of their contract originate in the AFL? I don't really remember it prior to Grundy and as far as I know it doesn't happen in many other professional sports does it? At least it doesn't seem like in other sports you have players still being paid by a former club for multiple years after leaving?

To me it just seems like a crazy path to go down. If you're going to part with a player it's hard to swallow the idea of paying them to play for someone else.

It's been going on for years. IIRC Richmond were paying  a fair whack of Ben Holland's contract when he moved to the Dees.

I don't think Port did as well in the trade period as they think they did.

Or think that they thought they did. 

I just caught the tail-end of an SEN interview with Houston and from what I'm gathering our issues have literally cost us his services.

Did anyone catch all of it?

7 minutes ago, layzie said:

I just caught the tail-end of an SEN interview with Houston and from what I'm gathering our issues have literally cost us his services.

Did anyone catch all of it?

Yes i heard it. Furious 

Pack ya Bags Pert….

Yeah that was pretty embarrassing to hear…

we had him, & just like that, we didn’t.

#culture

Edited October 17, 2024Oct 17 by RedLegs23