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1 hour ago, old dee said:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder Dr. I seldom see him win ruck duals. He is average on his good days.

On the other hand Gawn often wins ruck duels but we fail to win the clearance.

I think JVR competes well, especially in around the ground contests.

 
1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

On the other hand Gawn often wins ruck duels but we fail to win the clearance.

I think JVR competes well, especially in around the ground contests.

Agree.

But he didn't have his best day yesterday in the centre square contests.

8 hours ago, beelzebub said:

You get the feeling he's just going to bust games open. 

Another preseason... some more games..  whoarrr..  Will be fun to watch an a headache for oppositions.

Go you good Kolt 👍👍👍

And hopefully young Brown will break into more games.

Gotta hand it to the club despite my reservations about some players picked from other clubs which I understand for the experience factor, the pool of youngsters coming through is pretty exciting and going fwd we have a strong combination of experience and youth.

 
1 hour ago, binman said:

Agree.

But he didn't have his best day yesterday in the centre square contests.

My view is he should be in the forward line all game. We are using him simply because there is no one else. I fear the alternatives at Casey are worse than the Roo. But we won't know if we don't give them a go. 

On watching the replay it was quite evident that the umps were red hot on us for htb and not really forthcoming in rewarding our tackles .

And how dare that little upstart having a crack at our beloved Max.

Back in your box son.


4 hours ago, old dee said:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder Dr. I seldom see him win ruck duals. He is average on his good days.

He only averages about 1 hit out to advantage per match.  Not the best at ground level either post contest.

I agree.  He doesn't offer much imho.

I'd rather play Fullo and let Rooh focus on his forward efforts & craft.

Fullo will also get beaten a fair percentage of the time but will also win the odd tap to advantage a little more often than Rooh.  I'd wager about 3 to 5 for Fullo in a full match vs Rooh's 1.

I'd rather see Fullo getting pummelled in there anyway vs Rooh.  Rooh's just starting to hit some nice form.  Last thing we can afford is an injured JVR in a ruck contest that he rarely wins anyway.

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Coaches vote - good to see the young brigade represented

 

Melbourne v West Coast

10 Trent Rivers (MELB)
7 Jacob Van Rooyen (MELB)
7 Caleb Windsor (MELB)
2 Ed Langdon (MELB)
2 Judd McVee (MELB)
1 Kysaiah Pickett (MELB)
1 Tom McDonald (MELB)

11 minutes ago, roy11 said:

Coaches vote - good to see the young brigade represented

 

Melbourne v West Coast

10 Trent Rivers (MELB)
7 Jacob Van Rooyen (MELB)
7 Caleb Windsor (MELB)
2 Ed Langdon (MELB)
2 Judd McVee (MELB)
1 Kysaiah Pickett (MELB)
1 Tom McDonald (MELB)

Really surprised Tmac got 1 vote. Thought he was excellent yesterday maybe 3rd best behind Riv n Roo

 
6 hours ago, Longsufferingnomore said:

There is arrogance and confidence. Reid looks like he has been reading too much of the West Australian.

Kolt has confidence - big difference.

For me reid is just a super competitive kid who hates losing. He stands out to me as someone diffeent to jhf as he seems to buy into the Eagles culture. 

He's polar opposite to Jack watts who was also a pick 1, one of the least competitive pick 1's I've seen 

 

11 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

McVee is too light and lacks the power to play in the centre bounces IMO.

You might be right but I would point out that Nick Daicos is the same height and only a few kgs heavier. Not sure if there is a power differential. Nicks doesn’t bullock his way through stoppages, like a Cripps or Viney but is still highly effective, maybe Judd has a little of what Nick has. 


9 hours ago, Hellaintabadplacetobe said:

Really surprised Tmac got 1 vote. Thought he was excellent yesterday maybe 3rd best behind Riv n Roo

Thought his 'cool' head saved us more than a few times.   Having a good season... would like to think ( as may he lol ) to go around in '5 

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Thought his 'cool' head saved us more than a few times.   Having a good season... would like to think ( as may he lol ) to go around in '5 

One of the few guys I trust switch kicking back into 50. 

10 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

You might be right but I would point out that Nick Daicos is the same height and only a few kgs heavier. Not sure if there is a power differential. Nicks doesn’t bullock his way through stoppages, like a Cripps or Viney but is still highly effective, maybe Judd has a little of what Nick has. 

The point you make is right. The ability to go through the stoppage at speed and with clean hands means you don't need to be a big bull in the centre square. This is especially now the case with the big ruck circle. Butters is another good example of a very good centre clearance player who is small.

I like McVee, but I think Nick Daicos is at least one level above and he is a fair bit quicker and stronger. The other thing to note is how well Darcy Cameron is going in the centre bounces at directing his taps and the Pies are setting up for Daicos to run through the centre stoppage at speed. We have been trying to do this sometimes with Kossie, but you can only really afford to have one attacking player like this in the centre clearance. A great thing about Kossie in this role is that he is dual sided.

I actually think Windsor is actually more likely to be an inside midfielder for us than McVee in time because he has elite pace off the mark and he has shown exceptional handball/decision making in tight.

 

11 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

You might be right but I would point out that Nick Daicos is the same height and only a few kgs heavier. Not sure if there is a power differential. Nicks doesn’t bullock his way through stoppages, like a Cripps or Viney but is still highly effective, maybe Judd has a little of what Nick has. 

Daicos has more power through his legs and hips, a lower centre of gravity.


12 hours ago, Hellaintabadplacetobe said:

Really surprised Tmac got 1 vote. Thought he was excellent yesterday maybe 3rd best behind Riv n Roo

TMac played a terrific game - more than just experience, he led the way, so often. His reading of the play was an absolute bonus. Great to see him confidently moving us forward.

3 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Does anybody know what qtr McGovern hurt his ribs?

4th quarter, 11.25 minutes remaining, hip and shoulder with Chandler in the middle of the ground. All fair play.

17 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

On watching the replay it was quite evident that the umps were red hot on us for htb and not really forthcoming in rewarding our tackles .

And how dare that little upstart having a crack at our beloved Max.

Back in your box son.

I did think at the game that it was umpired like the venue was Perth ....

On 07/07/2024 at 19:12, PaulRB said:

Our connection inside 50 was on for the second week in a row and our forwards filled their boots accordingly. 
Like that the old elite (Jack, Clarry, Max) weren’t in best as we need to spread load and our kids really stepped up. Those potting Clarry are goldfish as he was great last week, and rendered Yeo ineffective. 
How exciting are our kids!?! Kolt’s two quick goals, JVR are real presence, add Petty back in and continue to deliver inside 50 at speed and angles and we are well in the hunt this year… 
As an optimist and Don hater, let’s belt them next Saturday night, and maybe more on here will start to believe. 
Good win. 
❤️💙

Clarry has been tagged a lot lately so perhaps they put him in this role so he can learn how the tagger game is played; this may give him a better understanding as to how to beat the tag.

14 hours ago, Earl Hood said:

You might be right but I would point out that Nick Daicos is the same height and only a few kgs heavier. Not sure if there is a power differential. Nicks doesn’t bullock his way through stoppages, like a Cripps or Viney but is still highly effective, maybe Judd has a little of what Nick has. 

i'm more than happy for naicos to run thru the middle as his disposal efficiency has dropped off the charts as a result

he's far, far more damaging for the filth coming off half back

keep him in the middle fly! 


1 hour ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

I did think at the game that it was umpired like the venue was Perth ....

Just some consistency on htb would be great.

Great username by the way.

2 hours ago, Nascent said:

4th quarter, 11.25 minutes remaining, hip and shoulder with Chandler in the middle of the ground. All fair play.

Did he come back on? 

17 hours ago, roy11 said:

Coaches vote - good to see the young brigade represented

 

Melbourne v West Coast

10 Trent Rivers (MELB)
7 Jacob Van Rooyen (MELB)
7 Caleb Windsor (MELB)
2 Ed Langdon (MELB)
2 Judd McVee (MELB)
1 Kysaiah Pickett (MELB)
1 Tom McDonald (MELB)

Can't recall a game that we have won where you didn't see the name Viney, Gawn Oliver or Petracca among the best

 

Bodes well

 

 
On 07/07/2024 at 20:25, jnrmac said:

And Jack Viney, as much as I love him, has a bad habit of bombing the ball long into our fwd line (and ignoring short hit up kicks in the process) that were mostly intercepted 

For all of the positives including the best 'mongrel' ever, Jack V does concentrate on the long  bomb, sadly. He can use his great eyes to sight, sign and deliver passes to teammates, yet seldom shows this quality attribute; in other words, it would be good (if we are going to further generate a running stampede as we did against the Weagles) to encourage Jack to have a whisper to his flankers to make/find/exploit space for some higher-percentage passing in Jack's trot forward with the ball. 

2 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Just some consistency on htb would be great.

Great username by the way.

Thanks!


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