I was going to wonder about JUH but perhaps not....

On 16/08/2025 at 08:00, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Windhager watch. 26 possessions (14 uncontested) at 89% efficiency. Plays hard. Runs hard. Has polish.

Should be our number 1 target. I hope we have a serious (but not ridiculous) offer on the table to try and jag him out off there. I am sure once NWM actually says he’s going home they will give Windhager what he wants but we should be doing what is required to convince him otherwise.

Hopefully with NWM signing an extension we are now going hard before they turn their attention to Windhager with whatever coins they find under the couch.

3 hours ago, Random Task said:

Bigfooty rumour, so take with a kidney stone inducing amount of salt, suggests Windhager wants to go to GWS.

3 hours ago, Random Task said:

Bigfooty rumour, so take with a kidney stone inducing amount of salt, suggests Windhager wants to go to GWS.

Crazy if true, they already have Tom Green and Callaghan as inside mids, and more who could play through there

2 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Crazy if true, they already have Tom Green and Callaghan as inside mids, and more who could play through there

Their midfield depth is poor. They have Callaghan, Green and the corpses of Cogs & Kelly

It'd be like us not trading for a young midfielder because we already have Jack Viney in the side

11 minutes ago, adonski said:

Their midfield depth is poor. They have Callaghan, Green and the corpses of Cogs & Kelly

It'd be like us not trading for a young midfielder because we already have Jack Viney in the side

Or it'd be like us continually playing Viney and Oliver together who are both inside mids and can't play anywhere else. And Bedford is their run with player.

They also have O'Halloran coming up.

5 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

I am personally happy that he's sticking with the Saints. At least for now.

It's good for the game when smaller clubs keep their stars, and he is one hell of a star.

And it also opens the door to Windhager. I hope we're still asking the question.

17 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Or it'd be like us continually playing Viney and Oliver together who are both inside mids and can't play anywhere else. And Bedford is their run with player.

They also have O'Halloran coming up.

Bedford has been phased out of their midfield. He hasn’t been effective in any way but hard tagging. XOH is getting more of a run through but isn’t a full time mid. You’d rather use him to cover multiple roles.

Leake and Rowston aren’t looking like genuine mids, at least not any time soon, they have a need and can probably straight swap him for Leek Aleer.

6 hours ago, MrFreeze said:

With this monster contract, the Windhager deal must be pursued hard now

i was going to say the exact opposite, from all reports he's super loyal, seeing his housemate commit and choosing to stick fat surely only encourages him to do the same not push harder for the exit?

1 hour ago, Mickey said:

Or it'd be like us continually playing Viney and Oliver together who are both inside mids and can't play anywhere else. And Bedford is their run with player.

They also have O'Halloran coming up.

coming up is generous, hes 25... cant wait for spargo and sparrow to start coming up too

Liam Ryan going to the Saints. They're becoming a destination club ahead of us...

8 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Liam Ryan going to the Saints. They're becoming a destination club ahead of us...

Huge get for them, if true

14 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Liam Ryan going to the Saints. They're becoming a destination club ahead of us...

There is a difference between "destination club" and a club throwing ridiculous coin at players til they say yes who are not proven worthy (TDK, Aleer) or passed their best (Ryan).

10 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

There is a difference between "destination club" and a club throwing ridiculous coin at players til they say yes who are not proven worthy (TDK, Aleer) or passed their best (Ryan).

No place for logic here. This is Eeyore Country. Governed by the rules of MFCSS.

26 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

There is a difference between "destination club" and a club throwing ridiculous coin at players til they say yes who are not proven worthy (TDK, Aleer) or passed their best (Ryan).

They have also offered $25m for Reid and apparently Liam Ryan is being said to be a lock and he will be about $1m a year.

If Reid comes and including King, that is about 50% of their salary cap on 6 players.

That could be a list disaster if form loss or injury happens, combined with disgruntled team mates.

Having all those 6, would leave less than $10m for the other 39 players, roughly $240k on average for each, which doesn’t seem to work, given the other list players we know of. Hill, Wilkie, Sinclair, Higgins, Marshall, Wood, etc are all on decent money.

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18 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

I'd offer 4 - he has really developed this year.

With TDK coming in and Nasiah signing on, then I don’t see the Saints increasing their offer

41 minutes ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

There is a difference between "destination club" and a club throwing ridiculous coin at players til they say yes who are not proven worthy (TDK, Aleer) or passed their best (Ryan).

It can turn you into a destination club if they start to succeed. We did it with Lever and May

29 minutes ago, Redleg said:

They have also offered $25m for Reid and apparently Liam Ryan is being said to be a lock and he will be about $1m a year.

That's an absolute insane amount to pay for Ryan. A deal like that is a culture killer and you really can understand why there would be grievances at the club, if that's accurate. Not too mention, it would completely throw their list 'build' out, as you've suggested.

I wouldn't be against Ryan being on a list, but good luck to St Kilda with that sort of offer. Bizarre.

Tis the Ross way. Bankrupt the club trying to pinch a flag, and then leave when it goes pear shaped. I hope it works for them this time; God knows Saints fans deserve one.

Don't get me wrong, it's great that NWM is staying at St Kilda, but don't tell me that he is staying for loyalty - he's staying because St Kilda have given him an absolutely massive pay day (and because he knows that neither Adelaide or Port can trade for him).

He'll be out the door as soon as his contract expires at the end of 2027 and he can walk as a free agent.

5 minutes ago, poita said:

Don't get me wrong, it's great that NWM is staying at St Kilda, but don't tell me that he is staying for loyalty - he's staying because St Kilda have given him an absolutely massive pay day (and because he knows that neither Adelaide or Port can trade for him).

He'll be out the door as soon as his contract expires at the end of 2027 and he can walk as a free agent.

He’s not a free agent at the end of 2027

1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

Huge get for them, if true

Bang average player these days

21 minutes ago, poita said:

Don't get me wrong, it's great that NWM is staying at St Kilda, but don't tell me that he is staying for loyalty - he's staying because St Kilda have given him an absolutely massive pay day (and because he knows that neither Adelaide or Port can trade for him).

He'll be out the door as soon as his contract expires at the end of 2027 and he can walk as a free agent.

Was it 2M for two years?

Easy buck for him and he'll be free to go anywhere in just two seasons.

Yes

41 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Was it 2M for two years?

Easy buck for him and he'll be free to go anywhere in just two seasons.

he still won't be a free agent at the end of the contract

in 2 years time he could be the firt $3m a season player if he continues currently growth trajectory

I have been wondering for weeks what it would take to entice Zane Duursma out of North. Is reportedly disgruntled with the club, as he is held back in the pecking order. Is a forward who can kick goals and can spend time in the midfield. He played 2 games for Casey in his draft year and still has vast amounts of potential to be a star.