2 hours ago, Deelectable said:

Max King? In terrible form for the Saints. Could find himself at Sandringham next week. Obviously lacks physicality but he is better than this. Leading goalkicker at least twice at StKilda averaging two goals a game over his career. Not sure Lyon's system suits him. I reckon a mutual parting of the ways could be in the offing. Not sure what sort of coin he's on but if they pay some and it's a second rounder might be worth the punt. At 23 fair chance some development ahead. 

With all due respect, are you having a larf? Max is a pick 4 who is going to be reaching his peak between now and the next 5 or 6 years. His ceiling is Curnow levels of potential. Would you trade Clarry for a second rounder if he was having a down year in 2020? He's worth our first this year and possibly next year, although we'd try and get that down to a 1st and future 2nd and 3rd. Or maybe you'd like to throw in Rivers instead of that 2nd? Or Maybe just a straight swap for Clarry?

That is absolutely what it would take.  

Edited June 30, 20241 yr by John Demonic

Looking at recruiting players that can KICK A GOAL IN THE LAST QUARTER 

it’s a skill needed in MFC players !!! FFS 

4 hours ago, John Demonic said:

With all due respect, are you having a larf? Max is a pick 4 who is going to be reaching his peak between now and the next 5 or 6 years. His ceiling is Curnow levels of potential. Would you trade Clarry for a second rounder if he was having a down year in 2020? He's worth our first this year and possibly next year, although we'd try and get that down to a 1st and future 2nd and 3rd. Or maybe you'd like to throw in Rivers instead of that 2nd? Or Maybe just a straight swap for Clarry?

That is absolutely what it would take.  

Ask any number of StKilda about their thoughts on Max King. I will refrain from his common nickname.  Curnow he will never be. I suspect the club and Max himself might be a little fed up with each other so who knows what might happen.Yeo, 2nd rounder might well be unders but what you're suggesting is way overs. 

59 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

Ask any number of StKilda about their thoughts on Max King. I will refrain from his common nickname.  Curnow he will never be. I suspect the club and Max himself might be a little fed up with each other so who knows what might happen.Yeo, 2nd rounder might well be unders but what you're suggesting is way overs. 

they'll still want to get something of actual value for him as it's perception as much as anything - he's the highest paid player on their list and very much the 'face' of the club

i think we'd be surprised who has the most value from our side from other sides; top three could well be:

• jacob van rooyen
• trent rivers
• kozi pickett

i think they're probably the only three that would realise multiple first round picks, unless someone such as petracca was on the list

would i swap any of them for max king? not on your life!

but do i think they'd be the first three names the aints would mention? you betcha

14 hours ago, 58er said:

No too old and Suns bound probably. This is not our greatest weakness. Solve our forward and mid lines and defence takes care of itself. Match winners needed not match savers !! 

I wouldn’t have thought 27 is too old, getting him in would allow us to play Judd in the midfield. Improving our midfields decision making and kicking. But happy to see things differently. 

1st pick and Bowey. Saints now want Bowey.

Edited June 30, 20241 yr by Damo

1 hour ago, Damo said:

1st pick and Bowey. Saints now want Bowey.

New intel?

2 minutes ago, MrFreeze said:

New intel?

No. It probably wasnt worth mentioning. Just a bunch of mates that are all high paying members and devoted/desperate. They know/knew some of the FD and "always" know whats coming to the Saints. For 10 years they told me Rory Sloane was "Next Year" and then it was Amon "Next year". Not a good track record.

20 minutes ago, Damo said:

No. It probably wasnt worth mentioning. Just a bunch of mates that are all high paying members and devoted/desperate. They know/knew some of the FD and "always" know whats coming to the Saints. For 10 years they told me Rory Sloane was "Next Year" and then it was Amon "Next year". Not a good track record.

Just to be clear mate, you're saying Bowey and first rounder for Max King or are you saying Bowey for a first rounder?

If the latter is the case, I'm not doing that deal. Why would we? Bowser is arguably our best kick and was a first rounder himself.

Edited July 1, 20241 yr by Binmans PA

No Jake was #21 in that draft IIRC.

Id do that deal myself If we finish mid-range. Not if we finish bottom 5. I also think it would be tempting to the Saints.

And did you mean "Former"?

Edited July 1, 20241 yr by Damo

7 minutes ago, Damo said:

No Jake was #21 in that draft IIRC.

 

He and Laurie were both first rounders 

10 minutes ago, Damo said:

No Jake was #21 in that draft IIRC.

Id do that deal myself If we finish mid-range. Not if we finish bottom 5. I also think it would be tempting to the Saints.

And did you mean "Former"?

Yeah, Jake was pick 21, which was first round that year. The pick slid due to academy access.

Bowey is one of my favourites so I am biased, but I'd do the deal if it meant King coming our way. Otherwise, nope.

Just now, Binmans PA said:

Yeah, Jake was pick 21, which was first round that year. The pick slid due to academy access.

Bowey is one of my favourites so I am biased, but I'd do the deal if it meant King coming our way. Otherwise, nope.

Im a little disappointed in Jake as he was a local legend under-age. Id like to see him further up the ground before giving up hope. Quite possbly could blossom as Toby Bedford did at Giants. Hope it is for us but Max King wont come easy.

3 hours ago, Damo said:

1st pick and Bowey. Saints now want Bowey.

The deal doesn’t bother me as much as King’s gigantic contract would

Bowzer is a massive Saints fan, so dont think hed be overly disgruntled if he left.

The big ? is Max King. Sure he'd walk in to our forward line and allow JVR to be #2, but like Petty he is very injury prone.

Bowey to Saints is billion to one odds. NWM, Sinclair, Bonner, Shoenmaker, Hastie....why would a team in need of a midfield go after another half back flanker.

Maybe if he was originally drafted by GWS there'd be more truth to it...

Dees reportedly into waterman from WCE. Wants to stay at Eagles but is being lowballed. 
 

Perfect if we can get him. Source FoxFooty The Tackle. Geelong also into him.

Edited July 2, 20241 yr by Gawndy the Great

3 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Dees reportedly into waterman from WCE. Wants to stay at Eagles but is being lowballed. 
 

Perfect if we can get him. Source FoxFooty The Tackle. Geelong also into him.

I would be excited to watch Melbourne every week if he continued his early 2024 form (if he came over)

Edited July 2, 20241 yr by BW511

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Dees reportedly into waterman from WCE. Wants to stay at Eagles but is being lowballed. 
 

Perfect if we can get him. Source FoxFooty The Tackle. Geelong also into him.

Is Waterman out of contract at the end of this year or next?

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Dees reportedly into waterman from WCE. Wants to stay at Eagles but is being lowballed. 
 

Perfect if we can get him. Source FoxFooty The Tackle. Geelong also into him.

Is the salary cap going up next year? If we’re serious surely we could offer a bit with cap increase plus pending retirements.

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Dees reportedly into waterman from WCE. Wants to stay at Eagles but is being lowballed. 
 

Perfect if we can get him. Source FoxFooty The Tackle. Geelong also into him.

Would be a very welcomed addition. 

Would love Waterman but he’ll stay put Im guessing 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-2024-trade-news-rumours-whispers-hawthorn-hawks-meeting-with-harry-perryman-in-sydney-raid-sam-mitchell-daniel-rioli-wont-be-traded-to-gold-coast-suns-latest/news-story/0f4b3d8b055212a5554c3c242e5cf509

Up to our necks in waterman

450k on the table at WCE. Guessing we'd offer 800k

Max king reminds me of weideman or schache , no mongrel.

Waterman could work if we can get him.

I’d be very surprised if the Eagles don’t come to the party, given Darling is almost done