I along with others have been banging on about this for the last two years hope someone is reading this at Melbourne.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/03/09/they-were-impotent-why-do-melbourne-refuse-to-address-their-biggest-flaw/

No worries derm, we'll open the *checks notes*.... march trade period and send the dogs pick 83 for JUH, that should sort it out

Maybe you should write the club a letter?Things can sometimes be overlooked in organisations with a lot of cogs, so it's possible the 'improve the forward line' memo just got lost in someone's inbox tray. 

As i have said for the last two seasons and early on in Thursday night's match.... "my kingdom for a genuine power CHF".

The bolded excerpt below from Dermy tells the tale in terms of not having a genuinely dangerous tall forward.

It's also incredible to think that we are still persisting with an ex ruckman (Stafford) as our forward line coach more than two years after attempting to fix our forward line issues and not having any lasting success that consistently stands up (to this point) against the more rated oppo ...

“I think Jacob van Rooyen has got some talent and he can mark the ball above his head but the thing about key forward play is that you’ve got to recognise the trigger and it’s less than a second, it’s ‘this ball is coming this way I’ve got to be in the right position’.

“Previous to the trigger moment you actually have to start in the right position, and he doesn’t have the right starting position and I don’t know who’s teaching him or not teaching him those little tricks.

“They are impotent without ground level players"....

19 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

I along with others have been banging on about this for the last two years hope someone is reading this at Melbourne.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/03/09/they-were-impotent-why-do-melbourne-refuse-to-address-their-biggest-flaw/

Do you really think Tim Lamb and co haven't been exploring the possibility of trading in a key forward since 2021? Hell, we brought BBB in that year to fill that precise need, which was a key part of our flag. We have drafted multiple tall forwards since (JVR, Jefferson), clearly conscious of BBB and TMac's injury situations. Dermott seems to think we've been sitting back in banana lounges oblivious to this need.

It turns out, quality key forwards are [censored] hard to find, and teams that find one tend to pay them well, making it extremely hard to pry them loose.  

we should just trade in Charlie Curnow. simples

9 hours ago, demon3165 said:

I along with others have been banging on about this for the last two years hope someone is reading this at Melbourne.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/03/09/they-were-impotent-why-do-melbourne-refuse-to-address-their-biggest-flaw/

I know Derm is not everyone’s cup of tea but he is dead right here. It’s been an issue for a long time without being fixed properly and it seems to still be an issue. Does anyone know why Stafford is our forwards coach?

It is going to potentially ruin/waste another season. Our list is running out of opportunities to win another premiership and this is a key reason why imo. 

Edited March 9, 20241 yr by DemonOX

I haven't read the article. I loved Brereton as a player, but I'm just wondering:

• How long has it been since he stepped foot inside club-land? Oh, that's right. 18 years.
• How long since he worked in a recruitment department? Never.
• When did he last coach an Australian rules football side? Never.
• Many many rule changes effecting recruitment since he retired? Right again - dozens. 
• What is he paid to do these days? Oh, that's right, talk c%*p.

I'll read an article about our unaddressed recruitment problems when someone credible writes such.

Always makes me laugh at people getting upset at the media.

They're irrelavent, they're job is to sell clicks, not get it right.

Simplistic in that Key Forwards don’t fall out of trees but he’s right. We’re now banking on an injured backmen who may leave at years end to be our key forward. I really hope we’ve got the cheque book out at years end. Is Cadman contracted next year? I’d take JUH in a heartbeat. If Petty puts together a good season we need to sign him. We can’t go to the draft as we need a player Round 1 next year. 

So we just need to draft a generational power forward and teach our brigade of inside mid players to become classy users of the football overnight. 
 

Why didn’t we think of this earlier?! 

10 hours ago, Skuit said:

Maybe you should write the club a letter?Things can sometimes be overlooked in organisations with a lot of cogs, so it's possible the 'improve the forward line' memo just got lost in someone's inbox tray. 

It could be as simple as Goody pulling a couple of the forwards to the side and say "Boys, we need you to kick more goals.". I winder if the club has tried this or if they are instead to focussed on creating stoppages on our forward 50.

10 hours ago, Skuit said:

Maybe you should write the club a letter? 

best make it a STERN letter to really get the full effect

Edited March 9, 20241 yr by whatwhat say what

4 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

best make it a STERN letter to really get the full effect

Ps I am not a crackpot.

 

I love the way critics identify a problem and never offer a solution. Who Derm, and how?

You can only buy what people are selling. 

Far out. 

the Swans scored 22 times from 65 inside 50's

we scored 19 times from 51 inside 50's 

we were more efficient than the Swans, in awful conditions, missing some key players from the front end. 

13 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

I love the way critics identify a problem and never offer a solution. Who Derm, and how?

You can only buy what people are selling. 

 Yeah Dermie is mostly nonsense without completion.

This one is correct.. the need for JVR to learn his position as well as the need for a big body; but how would you " sell" MFC to a big forward  you wanted to lever out of another Club

And what trade price would you ask if it meant Melbourne was going  to be a serious threat to your Club?

Edited March 10, 20241 yr by IRW

Misguided endeavour with Grundy and bad luck with injuries to Brown, McDonald, and Smith. I wonder if we’ve done enough to search the state leagues? Someone to do what Podsiadly did for Geelong in their era of success.

I think we look the most balanced and potent with Petty and JVR forward. Seems to bring Chandler more into the game too. 

Incredibly unfortunate to lose Petty and Melksham late last year. Smith was commendable in the finals and so it’s a great shame that’s he’s probably played his last game for us.

3 minutes ago, wisedog said:

Misguided endeavour with Grundy and bad luck with injuries to Brown, McDonald, and Smith. I wonder if we’ve done enough to search the state leagues? Someone to do what Podsiadly did for Geelong in their era of success.

I think we look the most balanced and potent with Petty and JVR forward. Seems to bring Chandler more into the game too. 

Incredibly unfortunate to lose Petty and Melksham late last year. Smith was commendable in the finals and so it’s a great shame that’s he’s probably played his last game for us.

Remind me how many games Petty played forward..

It's a speculation, not a solution.

Smith won't be an answer and that's not bad luck.

TMac and BBB..they have to suck it up and find alternatives...should have done it 2 seasons ago notwithstanding a few cameos that were never going to last 

The muppets in the Media such as Dermie tend to forget that we've had substantial periods in the past 3 seasons where our forward line has functioned well. Even last year in towards the back end of the season our forward line was working very well with Jake Melksham, JVR, a hobbling Fritta along with Kossie and Trac as our key target at stages. Continuity has been our biggest issue which is the same problem other clubs who pay $$$ for marque key forwards, e.g. Richmond with Lynch, who are always injured and cant string games together.

23 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

I love the way critics identify a problem and never offer a solution. Who Derm, and how?

You can only buy what people are selling. 

Well I guess you didn't read the article properly then..

Let's see Harry Petty back in that forward line alongside JVR Fritta and the like, minus the slippery conditions at the SCG, and then we can make a call.

Footy pundits have blinkers on and the worst ones and are just 'see and react' because a level head and a bit of context doesn't get clicks.

1 hour ago, Cheap Seats said:

Always makes me laugh at people getting upset at the media.

They're irrelavent, they're job is to sell clicks, not get it right.

It's where the clowns are cloned.

11 hours ago, demon3165 said:

I along with others have been banging on about this for the last two years hope someone is reading this at Melbourne.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/03/09/they-were-impotent-why-do-melbourne-refuse-to-address-their-biggest-flaw/

If you think the FD don't know this and haven't tried to fix the problem you've got rocks in your head.

Every one can bang on about it as much as they want but what is the answer.

You can't make an in contract player just decide to come to us.

The only proven out of contract KPF available over the last few years was BBB and we got him.

Some other contracts have come up but their clubs know their value and have made it near impossible to pry them away.

 

1 hour ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

I haven't read the article. I loved Brereton as a player, but I'm just wondering:

• How long has it been since he stepped foot inside club-land? Oh, that's right. 18 years.
• How long since he worked in a recruitment department? Never.
• When did he last coach an Australian rules football side? Never.
• Many many rule changes effecting recruitment since he retired? Right again - dozens. 
• What is he paid to do these days? Oh, that's right, talk c%*p.

I'll read an article about our unaddressed recruitment problems when someone credible writes such.

So if you have not read the article then how can you comment?