The 2023 AFL Draft Thread

[The Lobster Effect 845]

52 minutes ago, M_9 said:

I do hope the Collingwood childrens' farm is still running - - somewhere local for KT to hone his skills.

Maybe a farm out Casey way for him...

[ChaserJ 4,009]

22 minutes ago, Beetle said:

There’s soemthing really heartwarming in knowing the Eagles weren’t able to anything else other than use pick 1.

 

11 minutes ago, The Lobster Effect said:

And they missed out on the local boy Lance Collard by one pick

Yes, have a reasonable degree of satisfaction about this as well.  Eagles backed themselves in on Reid, but wonder how much was driven by hubris and how convinced they were that they'd be able to do deals for additional first rounders whilst taking Reid as well.

They've staked a good part of their rebuild on Reid now.  Whether they rightfully stuck to their convictions or were just plain stubborn/arrogant in not maximising the return for pick one, time will tell. I do heavily suspect the latter will be borne out.

[58er 5,676]

2 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Got to worry about the kid not wanting to come down for the presentation. Probably just shy and what not but still.

Completely wrong take. Kid is Exact opposite and he lives 500kms from Perth. 

[spirit of norm smith 13,455]

So assume JT sits out tomorrow night at home … with his slippers and comfortable PJs on 

[58er 5,676]

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

The AFL, like God, moves in mysterious ways. 

GC have special AFL sanction to take their players in the top 40. If they have the points .

Think all Northern Acadamies ( NSW and QLD) have these AFL loopholes. 

[Pennant St Dee 11,513]

3 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Got to worry about the kid not wanting to come down for the presentation. Probably just shy and what not but still.

Ffs it’s been widely reported he wanted to be with family and there was logistical issues with family members travelling over from regional WA. We’re in the beginning of our harvest in WA which also would have played a part, but let’s let MFCSS override several legitimate reasons 

[Pennant St Dee 11,513]

2 hours ago, dee-tox said:

I like our two picks. Sometimes as a supporter it is a case of distilling down who you don't like. I have reservations over Sanders (lack of explosive pace), Caddy (in between size for key forward), Curtin (a tall flanker who didn't impress me in Colts GF), O'Sullivan (thrashed by Croft in championships).

Curtin did his hammy in the Colts GF and played out the game, but he ain’t one of us so we welcome Caleb and Koltyn 

[Pennant St Dee 11,513]

1 hour ago, ChaserJ said:

 

Yes, have a reasonable degree of satisfaction about this as well.  Eagles backed themselves in on Reid, but wonder how much was driven by hubris and how convinced they were that they'd be able to do deals for additional first rounders whilst taking Reid as well.

They've staked a good part of their rebuild on Reid now.  Whether they rightfully stuck to their convictions or were just plain stubborn/arrogant in not maximising the return for pick one, time will tell. I do heavily suspect the latter will be borne out.

Yep agree he’s going to be a gun and whilst I don’t think they’re as bad as many think I’m also aware their potential to move up the ladder slightly next season is based on getting good seasons out of McGovern, Yeo, Darling, Barrass and Allen. 3 of those have one good season left in them. I really rate Hewitt and Ginbey is a really good culture maker with Long showing snippets of talent, but they really need to increase the amount of good quality young players coming through 

[Nascent 7,508]

Twomey confirming on his draft recap that we attempted to move up for Duursma then Watson.

[dees189227 11,030]

How about the Hawks kid that his jumper presented by Michael tuck after the nth kid got his presented by Michael firrito. The nth kid would feel a little dudded

[dazzledavey36 49,397]

1 hour ago, dees189227 said:

How about the Hawks kid that his jumper presented by Michael tuck after the nth kid got his presented by Michael firrito. The nth kid would feel a little dudded

How about poor Ryley Sanders getting his jumper presented by Lindsay Gilbee lol

Poor kid.

[Redleg 38,111]

8 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

So assume JT sits out tomorrow night at home … with his slippers and comfortable PJs on 

And hopes Kynan Briwn is not selected.

[Roger Mellie 3,604]

Do we have any other spots on the Rookie List apart from Kynon Brown?

[dazzledavey36 49,397]

1 minute ago, Roger Mellie said:

Do we have any other spots on the Rookie List apart from Kynon Brown?

Nope. Especially as we have filled that spot with Marty Hore.

[Maldonboy38 6,034]

Our list management team have a great track record so I have a general sense of calm about Windsor and Tholstrup. Neither of them light my fire, but the pace and kicking of Windsor do stand out. I can't see either of them getting a senior game in 2024, but Windsor would make a perfect wingman if he can get some size on him.

For many of the tall forward options, it is so hard to tell, but in the highlights shown many of them were not single grab marks. A fair bit of two-touches going on. As for the general pool of draftees, apart from Reid, McKercher is the one who stands out with his pace, power and kicking. 

From here it is down to the club's development program (ours is up with the best now, and wow is that a change!) and the individual player taking on the hard work and sacrifice required for elite sport. 

We really do have a bundle of talent at Casey now - pressure is on for almost every spot.

[Redleg 38,111]

I would love to know the background to WC attempts to get the Curtin pick from GWS.

Also I wonder if getting Curtin may temper Crows efforts to get Petty.

They now have Thilthorpe, Fogarty, Tex and Himmelberg with a few talls up back as well.

[Nascent 7,508]

2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I would love to know the background to WC attempts to get the Curtin pick from GWS.

Also I wonder if getting Curtin may temper Crows efforts to get Petty.

They now have Thilthorpe, Fogarty, Tex and Himmelberg with a few talls up back as well.

Cal usually does a write up of all the trades that fell through and who clubs were targeting a couple days after the draft.

He mentioned on his recap video that we had a crack at Roos pick 4 for Duursma and Hawks pick 5 for Watson. Would also be curious to see if we made a significant play for GWSs pick 7 and who we had in mind there.

[poita 3,710]

So glad we are traded away a heap of draft capital to get mid-size forward number 20 for our list. Kolton might become a great player, but positionally it is the absolute lowest priority that we needed to address.

I find it extraordinary that we haven't used a top 20 pick on a midfielder for 8 years now. Even more so given the issues around Brayshaw, Oliver and Viney.

What's the plan if we lose a couple of midfielders for prolonged periods next year? Are we going to get Spargo to sit on Laurie's shoulders and see if they can reach Bontempelli's shoulders?

 

[Redleg 38,111]

12 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Cal usually does a write up of all the trades that fell through and who clubs were targeting a couple days after the draft.

He mentioned on his recap video that we had a crack at Roos pick 4 for Duursma and Hawks pick 5 for Watson. Would also be curious to see if we made a significant play for GWSs pick 7 and who we had in mind there.

Cats got 31 for nothing, swapping picks with Bombers, knowing they wanted Caddy, when Cats obviously wanted O’Sulliivan.

Poor intel and card playing by Dodoro, who will no doubt gloat he got his player and won’t mention wasting 31.

[Demonstone 19,735]

17 minutes ago, poita said:

So glad we are traded away a heap of draft capital to get mid-size forward number 20 for our list. Kolton might become a great player, but positionally it is the absolute lowest priority that we needed to address.

Michael Gleeson in 'The Age'  and Jason Taylor have a different view.

Melbourne again traded into the draft and had picks at seven and 13. List manager Jason Taylor said it was serendipitous that the players they regarded as the best available talents at that pick also happened to fit needs they had on their list.

Koltyn Tholstrup is 186cm tall, a powerful forward who can run, while Caleb Windsor is an elite ball-user and very quick.

If you asked what type of players Melbourne needed right now they would be close to being it.

[Hawk the Demon 557]

55 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Nope. Especially as we have filled that spot with Marty Hore.

We have 74 and 88 still to be used tonight

[Demonstone 19,735]

1 minute ago, Hawk the Demon said:

We have 74 and 88 still to be used tonight

But do we have any vacancies on the list?  I understood we are at capacity.  Stand to be corrected.

[chook fowler 18,402]

I've obviously zoned out and missed the fact that we no longer have pick 42. What happened?

[old55 21,704]

43 minutes ago, poita said:

So glad we are traded away a heap of draft capital to get mid-size forward number 20 for our list. Kolton might become a great player, but positionally it is the absolute lowest priority that we needed to address.

I find it extraordinary that we haven't used a top 20 pick on a midfielder for 8 years now. Even more so given the issues around Brayshaw, Oliver and Viney.

What's the plan if we lose a couple of midfielders for prolonged periods next year? Are we going to get Spargo to sit on Laurie's shoulders and see if they can reach Bontempelli's shoulders?

 

Which mid do you have in mind that we missed out on last night? Charlie Edwards was the only one selected after our pick at 7 all the way through to 29 and he went at 21.

[mo64 5,262]

21 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

But do we have any vacancies on the list?  I understood we are at capacity.  Stand to be corrected.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we traded out pick 42 which was a live pick. Maybe someone is getting upgraded from our rookie list.