Sydee 4,684 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said: He wanted to leave though and was out of contract so we did the best we could. No point whinging about a player who didn't want to be here, when the majority do. Agreed about Gawn injury, but most teams are the same (dockers probably the only ones who can cover their number one ruck). If English goes down Dogs have to ruck either Darcy or Lobb full time. If Marshall goes down the Saints have Tom Campbell. If Soldo goes down the Power have Jordon Sweet and so on and so on. There aren't many good ruckman around and there are hardly any AFL standard rucks in the VFL. I’m not whinging just stating the obvious - the deal we got for LJ was not “the best value ever” - simple was it all that was on the table - maybe - but best value ever is laughable - in value terms we are miles behind on that trade atm 1 1 Quote
Roost it far 10,136 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 As Petty is contracted in 25 they’ll need a top 10 and a top 20 pick to satisfy us. Either that or a top liner from their list who wants back to Vic. Any less would be unders. 8 2 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,728 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 7 minutes ago, Sydee said: I’m not whinging just stating the obvious - the deal we got for LJ was not “the best value ever” - simple was it all that was on the table - maybe - but best value ever is laughable - in value terms we are miles behind on that trade atm Well yeah but you very rarely get what a player is worth once they are out of contract and want to leave, given the players can choose where they want to go. We are very lucky Freo tanked last year and we got Windsor! 4 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,728 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 1 minute ago, Roost it far said: As Petty is contracted in 25 they’ll need a top 10 and a top 20 pick to satisfy us. Either that or a top liner from their list who wants back to Vic. Any less would be unders. Exactly. Once he is OOC this changes, but for the end of this year we can just say no deal and he comes back for another season. These articles saying 'Crows think they can get him' are all just for clickbait, fact is we don't have to trade. 1 1 1 Quote
Sir Why You Little 37,457 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 If we don’t get top value for Petty this year, I would hold him to his contract in ‘25 We can use Gus money this year to get some high end talent 3 3 Quote
Grr-owl 1,258 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Garbo said: 1332 km Melbourne to Wuddina Got me. 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Jjrogan said: Future first and an Adelaide death ride coming up. First and future first with our 2nd going back. Same as Lever deal. Seems fair for a key position player in his prime that can play both ends and is still contracted. Their first this year is currently pick 6. Hopefully we can change his mind. 2 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,548 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 On 15/03/2024 at 09:16, Bring-Back-Powell said: I can't see how we don't hold Petty to his contract for 2025 unless we have a proven and experienced key forward to replace him. The club owes it to itself and its members to look after its backyard first and foremost (which they didn't do with the Grundy trade) We should tell Adelaide that if a forward hasn't agreed to come to us before or during trade week this year, then we're not trading him. Not changing my stance on this one. No experienced key forward coming through our doors, then no Petty/Adelaide trade for 2025. What's more important? 1) Trade Petty and obtain a good trade by way of potentially two top 20 picks for the 2025 season but having no replacement (assuming BBB retires and we have to persist with Schache if Jefferson and Adams don't develop) 2) Retaining Petty for 2025 who will provide us with a bona fide KPF/KPD to help us contend for another flag at the expense of receiving a mediocre draft pick return for the 2026 season because we won't have bargaining power. I know which option I'm taking. 1 3 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,548 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 2 hours ago, Beetle said: The club are resigned to the fact now we will likely lose him at year’s end. I was originally of the understanding he was more than happy here, but they held him to his contract for this year given how important he is to our side. Whether it be the money or not, he is apparently “desperate to get back to SA”. I know you can't judge everything on game day but he looked as invested as ever on the field last week and was sticking up for his teammates such as Max when Hawks players had a crack at us. Makes you wonder what's changed in terms of his homesickness from October 2021 when he committed medium term (2025) to the current day where he is allegedly desperate to come home. 3 Quote
Beetle 4,739 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 4 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: I know you can't judge everything on game day but he looked as invested as ever on the field last week and was sticking up for his teammates such as Max when Hawks players had a crack at us. Makes you wonder what's changed in terms of his homesickness from October 2021 when he committed medium term (2025) to the current day where he is allegedly desperate to come home. I can’t answer that sorry mate. As I said it may be money related or it may not be. That was purely what I was told in a conversation from a very reliable source. Of course the club will do everything they can to keep him, they just don’t think they’ll be able to. 2 1 1 2 Quote
BDA 23,048 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 If he wants out nothing we can do. Just need him to give max effort towards a flag tilt before sending him on his merry way. Look for the best deal we can at the trade table. P.S. I want a future first as part of the deal because I miss death riding. 3 2 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Grr-owl said: Got me. i doubt harry would move to wuddina. radelaide for sure if he goes. 2 Quote
Tracca 862 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 2 hours ago, Redleg said: It looks like Jeffo ahead of Petty and if so, he looks taller than Petty. In another few photos of them, I thought the same thing. Petty is listed as 197 cms. So if Jeffo is taller, he has grown since being drafted and will be a big unit. I think he will become another key forward with us, hopefully playing alongside JVR and Fritta for several years. Jeffo has shown absolutely nothing at VFL level, and doesnt look like it either at this point in time. weve got another 2 years of him to hopefully show us his wares. god knows we need him to! 1 Quote
Demon Disciple 12,536 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 If Crows don’t get him this trade period, just wait for the restraint of trade bs they’ll spout 1 Quote
Docs Demons 1,810 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 3 hours ago, Sydee said: I think reading between the lines the farm is being offered to Petty not the MFC This could be similar or worse than the LJ fiasco - the compensation in that case was well under market imo and as time moves on it looks even worse. Players that can have a significant impact on the outcome of individual games are as rare as hens teeth - LJ is unquestionably in that category now and will become more valuable in time. For us Petty is close to that because he is our most versatile tall (the main question mark on him would be capacity to stay on the park consistently) I’m still hopeful he decides to stick with us but if he is determined to leave get ready for us to to very disappointed with the compensation With ya on being hopeful he stays but if it's the Crows then they will be coughing up heaps in salary for him and I trust 1st round picks for us. 1 Quote
Roost it far 10,136 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 3 hours ago, Nascent said: First and future first with our 2nd going back. Same as Lever deal. Seems fair for a key position player in his prime that can play both ends and is still contracted. Their first this year is currently pick 6. Hopefully we can change his mind. If Petty is determined to go and Adelaide finish bottom 4 I’m in. 1 Quote
Superunknown 4,246 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 Had a dream night before last he signed for 1.2m p.a with dees weird i expect to have Augusta and Ronde van Vlanderaan and snowboarding dreams this time of year 1 Quote
picket fence 18,185 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 If Petty goes wont bat an eyelid...As long as we get some first rounders he is ...surplus to needs! 1 2 1 1 Quote
Vipercrunch 2,864 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 Hopefully if he does want to go back to SA, then Port also put a big number in front of him too. I would love a true bidding war to break out if we are to lose him (but would much prefer him to decide to stay though). 1 Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 1 hour ago, picket fence said: If Petty goes wont bat an eyelid...As long as we get some first rounders he is ...surplus to needs! What? Petty surplus to needs? Who have we got his size and ability, that make him surplus to needs. 4 1 4 Quote
TheWiz 787 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 Sorry but why would we be getting a “mid teens” compensation pick? Petty vs McKay 24 years vs. 26 years old Pick 37 vs Pick 21 62 games vs 71 games 1x Premiership vs Nil. McKay Essendon Deal 6 years at $850k pa = Round 1 compensation pick (#3) John Ralf Reported Offer 5 years at $800k pa = Mid Teens 2 Quote
Redleg 42,156 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 1 minute ago, TheWiz said: Sorry but why would we be getting a “mid teens” compensation pick? Petty vs McKay 24 years vs. 26 years old Pick 37 vs Pick 21 62 games vs 71 games 1x Premiership vs Nil. McKay Essendon Deal 6 years at $850k pa = Round 1 compensation pick (#3) John Ralf Reported Offer 5 years at $800k pa = Mid Teens Forget compo picks, he is contracted to us next year. 1 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 1 hour ago, picket fence said: If Petty goes wont bat an eyelid...As long as we get some first rounders he is ...surplus to needs! Get off the jungle juice, picket! May is 78, which leaves us with only Lever as a tall back in 2 years. Or are you claiming Hore, Howes or Turner as our next key back stars? 🤪 3 Quote
picket fence 18,185 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 Just now, Moonshadow said: Get off the jungle juice, picket! May is 78, which leaves us with only Lever as a tall back in 2 years. Or are you claiming Hore, Howes or Turner as our next key back stars? 🤪 No way Moonman, he is gooooorne, time to plan for it! Mark my Words🤑 1 Quote
Greg Schneider 1,018 Posted March 28, 2024 Posted March 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, picket fence said: No way Moonman, he is gooooorne, time to plan for it! Mark my Words🤑 Please define how Petty is surplus to needs 1 Quote
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