2023 Best and Fairest

[dazzledavey36 49,739]

3 minutes ago, old55 said:

 

Bruce Reid?

Not sure a guy that ticked off on the drug supplements would be high on anyone's list.

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,606]

I can’t seem to locate May’s speech on the website. Was it that profanity laced?

[Yarra Valley Demon 109]

I can't be neither going through this entire thread to check if this has been mentioned before but in case it hasn't,  I just felt like I have to say, Steven May's speech after receiving the 5th place trophy was absolutely epic. 😎

[monoccular 16,595]

8 hours ago, DubDee said:

do they give votes for finals? if so that explains it. of his 15 games he was easily clear on disposals

not sure if the award should reward durability that much. but anyway well done all 

Of course you have to be in it to win it.  

7 hours ago, Great Northern Summer said:

Fair call. She's no Bruce Reid though! He was the greatest.

Seriously?   IMO very lucky not to have been put through the wringer by AHPRA (medical board successor) for breaching one of the basic ethical requirements, putting his patients health paramount over the orders of the payer, in this case EFC. 

[Swooper1987 2,833]

I like the way Geelong does it. They take out each players 4 lowest polling games as a way to neutralize games missed through injury.  So for instance, Gawn's 4 games that he missed through injury don't count (his vote tally wouldn't change)but the others around him would also have their 4 lowest polling games removed (Pickett his two for suspension plus next lowest polling games).  That get you closer to the actual best player and not the most durable.

Hard to argue with the top 10 though.  Trac and Viney standouts, good to see the defence get rewarded - Lever, May, McVee and Rivers all in the top 10. Pickett and ANB the only forwards and both perhaps moreso for their defensive work.  Gawn was a top 5 lock bar his month missed. 

[Clintosaurus 6,867]

Pies fans massively triggered. So good.

[Demon Dynasty 16,286]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Give May the captaincy.

Co - Captain?  or VC with Viney

[Jaded No More 59,790]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

That's because in his time here in Melbourne he's only worked with Laura and Dr Zeeshan Arain who accused Goody of bullying allegations.

I think we know the real reason why Lauren is the best doctor he's had...

He’s been around football for 2 decades. He’s worked with many doctors in his time. 

I have also been told by a few people that she’s a really wonderful doctor. Very focused on the holistic approach to health care and the players really love her. 
She will be a loss for sure. 

I also loved that Trac thanked the club psych last night. Having good access to mental health is paramount to professional athletes these days. 

[Redlegs 8]

Is there a link to a replay of the stream somewhere? 

[dazzledavey36 49,739]

39 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Co - Captain?  or VC with Viney

More tongue in cheek for his Collingwood hatred.

[Demon Dynasty 16,286]

12 minutes ago, Redlegs said:

Is there a link to a replay of the stream somewhere? 

They might post the replay on the club site later.

Gee Mr Leg ain't gonna be too happy with you

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,443]

Anyone know where we can get the full list of positions  and votes. MFC has only published the top 10. It’s always good to calculate the leader board by votes per game played vs total votes. It usually says a lot. 

[speed demon 736]

10 hours ago, deanox said:

At 40 votes per game maximum (4 coaches each give a rating for each player out of 10), there was only one game between 3rd and 10th this year. Unbelievably even season.

Thx for clarifying @deanox. We can debate the merits or otherwise of the voting system but what it does is reward players who consistently play their role as assessed by the four people best positioned to understand each players role.  

We can infer from the result that Nibbler and Pickett both did a great job of playing their role this season. If that caused you to choke on your Cornflakes, maybe you have some reflecting to do. 

I thought Pickett's offensive output may have been a little down this season but his defensive work was better. Especially using his pace and agility to close down space and deny opposition ball movers freedom to run (eg Saad v Blues and Quaynor v Pies mid-year come to mind). 

Edited October 6, 2023 by speed demon
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[Lord Travis 10,310]

Someone find a link to Mays speech please! Was hilarious.

[Jaded No More 59,790]

20 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Someone find a link to Mays speech please! Was hilarious.

It's been erased from the records

[old dee 23,256]

9 hours ago, binman said:

I wasn't having a shot at you dd.

And many wouldn't have picked him to finish top 10 - chronically under rated player. Well, not by the coaches and players, just fans.

How did I go with my predictions? 

Picked the top 10 in order.

 

An absolute marvel ! 

[Katrina Dee Fan 2,502]

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I can’t seem to locate May’s speech on the website. Was it that profanity laced?

There were a couple of f bombs :) 

[Demonstone 19,980]

11 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

"When the moon hits your eye
Like a big pizza pie, that's amore"

[Vineytime 792]

What a great night as always, highlights were the 11 hall of fame inductee’s, Melkys speech about his best mate Hibbo and of course Maysy. 
 

Goody spoke well, mentioned he has never been more excited/ confident about an upcoming pre season. 

[Demonstone 19,980]

9 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

 How does the misspelling of a player’s name get through?!?! Where’s the proofreader? Inexcusable!

That's an embarrassing blunder.  It's not as if Bradshaw is a difficult name to spell.

[spirit of norm smith 13,578]

We love Steven May

👏👏👏👏👏

[Older demon 2,319]

The night was great.

It was an awards night not a vote bore-a-thon. It's so great to see the surviving 64 flag players get life membership. May was epic and even more vocal post count; honestly, he only said what most were thinking.  He thinks we are better than them and he doesn't like them. He did say if he thought they were better than us he would congratulate them but was annoyed that we missed an opportunity. I do hope they find a post-career role for Pig his speech was heartfelt and sincere and he has left nothing in the tank to complete his career.

BBB was asked by a doctor mate about his knee and said it was ok and he would play on and TMac needed more time to find form post-op but will suit up next year.

Goody has his detractors but I came away thinking he is a very good head coach, drives the standards, is loved and respected by the players and has got this team into the top 4 the last 3 years which no one else has done. Sure he has his weaknesses but that is up to the assistants to cover the gaps. Kate said don't believe any media [censored] only what the club publishes which after the last week has convinced me is correct. Too many journos not looking for the true story but getting the first story. Pert's letter was brilliantly timed and answered the critics and the media scribes.

We are reminded it took Geelong a decade to win that last premiership despite making the finals every year. They are bloody hard to win and everything has to go right.

[Gator 16,921]

8 hours ago, picket fence said:

Also overated by some!

On the contrary Petracca is underrated by plenty of Melbourne supporters and the broader media.

Our game is all about contest and defence, but ultimately it's measured by scores.

Over the last three years Petracca has been the number one 'score involvement' player by some margin.  But he's been able to do it while also being number one for 'inside 50s', 'goal assists' and 'metres gained' during the same period.

He's also number 2 over the last 3 years for 'contested possessions' behind only Oliver and second for 'disposals' in general.

If you consider him ''overrated'', you must have a measurement you're comparing him to.

Considering there's not a player in the league that can match his overall output over the last 3 years I'll be fascinated to know what it is.

[Palace Dees 2,069]

55 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

It's been erased from the records

That would be a wise thing for the club to do. For Melbourne fans only to hear.

Agree wholeheartedly with what he said, but let's not put more controversy on him and take the spotlight away from the award winners and legends who were there.

That said, we know it will get out so stand by.

[Redleg 38,437]

2 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Gee Mr Leg ain't gonna be too happy with you

“in answer to a post from Redlegs not Redleg”

I have made that clear previously.

I am thinking of changing my name to dazzlesdavey36, whispering jacks, rpfcs, binmans, demonstones, spirits of norm smith, jnrmacs or even Demonlands.

Then again Demon Dynastys even though spelt incorrectly, has a nice ring to it.

Edited October 7, 2023 by Redleg