Don’t think it will be taken into account but Maynard’s behaviour immediately after the incident didn’t look like that of someone who was sorry for what happened which is what you would expect of somebody who did something by accident, instead he got defensive which is typical of somebody who is guilty.

 

Hopefully Gus is alright, but if not I’d expect some very nervous people at AFL house, the way they handle this will have ramifications for how this goes legally down the track I suspect. If they condone what happened as a football act then they are effectively saying it’s Brayshaws  responsibility to protect himself in that situation. I’d find it hard to believe there is a court out there that would agree with that sentiment. 

Edited September 11, 20231 yr by Garbo

1 minute ago, Garbo said:

Don’t think it will be taken into account but Maynard’s behaviour immediately after the incident didn’t look like that of someone who was sorry for what happened which is what you would expect of somebody who did something by accident, instead he got defensive which is typical of somebody who is guilty.

He also head-butted Viney which conveniently the media has forgotten about. 

Has anyone else read this on SEN?

Seems awfully desperate to make amends which to me seems like he’s feeling guilty more than anything. If it was a complete accident, I’m not sure he’d go to these lengths. Also, who doesn’t call ahead?

Edited September 11, 20231 yr by At the break of Gawn

Sam Edmund reporting that on the evening that Maynard went over to Gus’s house with his flowers, wine and chocolates, there was a group of MFC players already there.

The atmosphere was super awkward and one MFC player was so inflamed by the situation that he had to excuse himself from the house. I wonder which player that was?

Edit - At the Break of Dawn just beat me with the story in the above post.

Edited September 11, 20231 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

1 hour ago, leave it to deever said:

The Pies supporters booing while Fritta had a free on goal really made me angry. Wouldn't even acknowledge that. They really are a sub species of mankind.

And roaring and cheering Maynard in support, to drown out the Melbourne boos, every time he ran to or from the interchange throughout the rest of the game. 

2 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Has anyone else read this on SEN?

Seems awfully desperate to make amends which to me seems like he’s feeling guilty more than anything. If it was a complete accident, I’m not sure he’d go to these lengths. Also, who doesn’t call ahead?

Put money it was Steven May or Jack Viney.

This reaction from May sums it up.

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Put money it was Steven May or Jack Viney.

This reaction from May sums it up.

Don't worry about the infamous Benella Bikkies. I hope for Maynard's sake it wasn't May. Sheez!

Edited September 11, 20231 yr by Queanbeyan Demon

Will be the most anticipated tribunal hearing in years tomorrow night

Edited September 11, 20231 yr by Jibroni

12 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

Will be the most anticipated tribunal hearing in years tomorrow night

It’s the appeal that will be interesting 

My guess is that he will get 3 weeks and they’ll appeal. 

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

It’s the appeal that will be interesting 

My guess is that he will get 3 weeks and they’ll appeal. 

True and likely to be decided next week.

5 minutes ago, Jibroni said:

True and likely to be decided next week.

Appeal will be on Thursday I think 

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

He also head-butted Viney which conveniently the media has forgotten about. 

Is there footage of this? I wouldn’t mind going on a bit of social media rampage. 

I hope like all of us Gus is well enough to attend on Friday night. Then I hope we catch a glimpse of him on the big screen and give him an almighty cheer.

I just don’t know, only trying to think of something positive to say cause the aftermath like most, has left me sick in the guts.

1 minute ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Is there footage of this? I wouldn’t mind going on a bit of social media rampage. 

it's a bit inconclusive. more bent in and touched foreheads. not a real butt

you could see he wanted to though

1 hour ago, leave it to deever said:

The Pies supporters booing while Fritta had a free on goal really made me angry. Wouldn't even acknowledge that. They really are a sub species of mankind.

I’m normally ‘live and let live’ as far as oppo supporters go, but the Pies supporters were a new kind of feral last Thursday. Even a Pies supporting mate of mine who called to gloat the following day (never calls when we beat them) said he thought they were as foul as he’d seen them😂

Once he launched he had a duty of care to Brayshaw. Commentators are saying Maynard had a duty of care to protect himself so he had to brace etc. Total [censored]. Duty of care to the other player is never removed.

He has to wear the consequences of his decision.

Yes, its legal to smother a ball but it is not legal to launch at a player and hit his head.

Magpies will argue Brayshaw strayed into his path after he kicked it and showed footage.

Siad on 'On the Couch' Brayshaw will not likely play again this year'.

Have to be careful what is said but it does cross the mind whether a player has seen an opportunity to take another player out and ....... That can never be proven though.

Nothing can take away the duty of care.
The AFL may argue that there was distinct actions.

First an action to smother which was never going to succeed.

Second was the brace and launch.

The AFL will argue contact was inevitable from the millisecond he launched. 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

He also head-butted Viney which conveniently the media has forgotten about. 

Yeah, that's a suspension offence on it's own normally, but, hey, we're basically watching a performance art version of 'ex-cop, with mates at the local station, getting accused of domestic violence'.

1 hour ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Don't worry about the infamous Benella Bikkies. I hope for Maynard's sake it wasn't May. Sheez!

Let's hope it was May.

He can deck him (legally) on the field next time we face them.

17 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Is there footage of this? I wouldn’t mind going on a bit of social media rampage. 

You should be able to find it in the replay of the match.

4 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

So did I.

I shed more than a few tears looking at that image, and thinking of his parents and Danielle and her mum listening to those Collingwood inbred cheer while Gus was motionless on the ground, and rushing down to the rooms to see how he is doing.

I think it's little wonder why so many of us are feeling so flat about Thursday. A loss is a loss, we've all seen plenty of them and plenty worse, but this incident, and the frankly pathetic follow up in the media and online since, has really just left a horrible bitter taste in our mouths. 

If our season ends on Friday, I'll be upset, but if Gus is ok then that is truly what matters. Bigger picture. 

Me too.

I've been really flat since the game. I thought at first it was because we lost. But I actually think it was this incident and the response of the Collingwood crowd that left me feeling this way.

Was impressed with Lyon tonight.  I thought he articulated the case for the prosecution well.  Buckley and to a lesser extent Brown still came across as stuck in the past.  It's obviously hard for Lyon - very close to both the Frawley family and the Brayshaw's. Managed to keep his emotions in check.  

If Lachie Hunter (who had effectively stopped moving and trapped the ball) has a duty of care to Rozee that extends beyond stopping all momentum, then Maynard has a duty of care to Brayshaw when attempting to touch the ball too.

9 minutes ago, Swooper1987 said:

Was impressed with Lyon tonight.  I thought he articulated the case for the prosecution well.  Buckley and to a lesser extent Brown still came across as stuck in the past.  It's obviously hard for Lyon - very close to both the Frawley family and the Brayshaw's. Managed to keep his emotions in check.  

That's because Lyon to this day still struggles with the passing of his close mate in Danny Frawley.

Spuds death hit him harder then the Jim Stynes purely because he knew eventually Jim was going to go. This one blind sided him

 

2 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Has anyone else read this on SEN?

Seems awfully desperate to make amends which to me seems like he’s feeling guilty more than anything. If it was a complete accident, I’m not sure he’d go to these lengths. Also, who doesn’t call ahead?

Caro mentioned it was Gawn and Petracca at Brayshaws house when Maynard turned up.

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Is there footage of this? I wouldn’t mind going on a bit of social media rampage. 

Well, Jack has his hand around Maynard's throat in response, so I'm not sure we want to be dredging that headbutt moment up too much.