5 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

He had 2 off seasons to recruit a KPF, nothing happened.

He's drafted 2 in the last 3 years and one is a regular and hopefully the other one will be in the near future.

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

He's drafted 2 in the last 3 years and one is a regular and hopefully the other one will be in the near future.

Yes, but those are for the future. What about the now?

9 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Just btw, do we have a Darren Jarman or Andrew McLeod in our squad?

No, but Crows did when they lost by 48 points. We have:
 

Petracca

Gawn 

Oliver

May

Fritsch

Kossie

Lever

Viney

Demons have made life much harder, but we still have a chance, and our coach has overcome the same obstacle as a player, we’re not done yet!

10 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Yes, but those are for the future. What about the now?

Please list all the established forwards that were available to us in the last 2 years and consider why we didn't land them. 

3 minutes ago, sue said:

Please list all the established forwards that were available to us in the last 2 years and consider why we didn't land them. 

McKay last year.

I believe B. king was gettable a couple of years ago.

I may be missing at least one more.

44 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

How many of them had a forwardline sticky taped together by fumes and duct tape? 🫠

Sadly the most apt description ive seen yet.

Going to require conjuring of an order that would make Dumbledore blush for us to get much further .

Anything is possible... but likely ....hmmm 

The pre-finals bye makes an interesting difference to the value of the week off, and yes, even prior to that in 20 years there were five different QF losing teams who clawed their way to the premiership. Plus throw in the Dogs doing it from the bottom half of the 8.

Let's just look at the most likely scenario.

To be premiers in 2023 we need to beat Carlton, Brisbane and Collingwood.

Fascinatingly, we're now 1 win 1 loss this season against all three of those teams!

Total margin from those six games is... (11, 17, 4, 1, 4, 7) 44 points, or 7.3 per game.

It is absolutely knife-edge stuff and if you think it can't be done please stay away from the club until it is over!

29 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Yes, but those are for the future. What about the now?

Well maybe we have an experienced key forward in our sights to cover for a few years, while the younger guys develop.

Hopefully we have identified it as a need. Every chance we could see Tom and Brown retire. Melk a mid size forward could also retire, but McAdam is similar size.

36 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Just btw, do we have a Darren Jarman or Andrew McLeod in our squad?

Petracca has to play Forward, half the time.

17 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

McKay last year.

I believe B. king was gettable a couple of years ago.

I may be missing at least one more.

H. McKay and Ben King have never been gettable previously.

2 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Petracca has to play Forward, half the time.

Agree, but Gus allowed him to do that, so we need a replacement.

47 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Just btw, do we have a Darren Jarman or Andrew McLeod in our squad?

Yes, his name is Christian Petracca

8 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

The pre-finals bye makes an interesting difference to the value of the week off, and yes, even prior to that in 20 years there were five different QF losing teams who clawed their way to the premiership. Plus throw in the Dogs doing it from the bottom half of the 8.

Let's just look at the most likely scenario.

To be premiers in 2023 we need to beat Carlton, Brisbane and Collingwood.

Fascinatingly, we're now 1 win 1 loss this season against all three of those teams!

Total margin from those six games is... (11, 17, 4, 1, 4, 7) 44 points, or 7.3 per game.

It is absolutely knife-edge stuff and if you think it can't be done please stay away from the club until it is over!

To quote the great man in dumb and dumber.." so you are saying there's a chance".

If it is 50/50 each game then we have a 12.5% chance. But that isn't quite right...character, resolve and luck play a part. Mainly character and resolve.

1 hour ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

We have a day extra recovery on Carlton, they limped over the line in the last, we finished very strongly.

They players would be angry how they let that opportunity slip threw their fingers, this is different from last year.

One word its all it is "Composure" all that was missing from the white board, Composure in front of goal.

What's done is done we are in good health.

Since " chaos ball" days there has been quite some improvement in the list but what hasn't improved is decision making in the contest,disposal skills or composure across the ground.

You can see it down back when Jake is marshalling the " troops" and Petty would know where to go and what to do,but that finishes past the centre square

 

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Our way to a flag has gotten way harder

Of course it has. I wasn't arguing otherwise.

I was merely stating facts. 

We are still in it. Same equation as last week, need three wins in a row. Albeit a somewhat harder path.  If we are good enough (and lucky enough - injury wise) we can still do it. Fingers crossed.

GO DEES!!!

3 minutes ago, Wodjathefirst said:

We are still in it. Same equation as last week, need three wins in a row. Albeit a somewhat harder path.  If we are good enough (and lucky enough - injury wise) we can still do it. Fingers crossed.

GO DEES!!!

Edit.

Edited September 9, 20231 yr by ElDiablo14

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Just btw, do we have a Darren Jarman or Andrew McLeod in our squad?

No but we have a Petracca

In 2021 he had a finals series to remember as did Max. Need to recapture that energy somehow.

A warm dry night in Melbourne before a near 100k crowd might be a good place to start

2 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Incorrect, 3 wins for a flag before Thursday night.

4 wins for a flag today.

Four wins?

5 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

Four wins?

My maths failed me, I have since edited the post.

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

McKay last year.

I believe B. king was gettable a couple of years ago.

I may be missing at least one more.

Hardly an overwhelming list.  I'm not across those 2 cases, but I doubt you can say there was no impediment to us getting them other than the failure of our coach to want them?

Dees key forwards this week 

 

3 hours ago, D4Life said:

Simon Goodwin played in the Crows flag winning team that the Demons belted by 48 points in a QF!

So at least he knows what is required to come back!

Different system. We weren’t belted. But sure.

I just don’t know where our goals will come from unless BBB magically comes good or Grundy and Fritsch and Trac and Koz can have a day out with 3 from Chin. 

4 hours ago, BDA said:

The week off helps, with only five teams – Brisbane in 2003, Sydney in 2005, West Coast in 2006, Hawthorn in 2015 and Richmond in 2020 – losing qualifying finals, then winning the flag

it can be done and has been done. We're still a tough proposition for Carlton and Brisbane (if they win their QF). We have the grit and resilience to stay in those games and win.

I just don't know if we can kick a score to win. where are the goals going to come from?

That’s 25% pretty good odds for us.!!!