ANB first man picked almost! a team player through and through. He brings others into play with his tackling , chasing etc. I am sure Joe boy has a list of players with a prescript copy to match them all . eg Neal Bullen  ' was rarely sighted.' His comments too are very dependent on the result of the game. I would have liked to read his thoughts had we lost this Brisbane game. But we didn't did we my fighting never give in Demons?!

17 hours ago, DEE32 said:

I’d suggest to anyone to look through the weekly goals, not the goal kicker but who actually sets them up a kick or two before, you’ll find its quite often nibbler, and was (down in form) Spargo.

Spargos form line is all to do with trying to be too cute imo. Went from being a low fuss, high effective kick - taking the first, best choice - to trying to break tackles or dummy and be super cute with his kicks. Just needs to get back to basics imo

2 hours ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

ANB first man picked almost! a team player through and through. He brings others into play with his tackling , chasing etc. I am sure Joe boy has a list of players with a prescript copy to match them all . eg Neal Bullen  ' was rarely sighted.' His comments too are very dependent on the result of the game. I would have liked to read his thoughts had we lost this Brisbane game. But we didn't did we my fighting never give in Demons?!

I rarely respond to anyone who wishes to rebuke or disagree with me, however ‘Bobby’, (who is a regular negative responder) your stupid comments about my apparent preconceived opinions require a response.

I almost always forward my weekly reviews of the game within an hour of the final siren.. living close to the G affords me this opportunity… I don’t wait for ages to ‘get the feel of the room’ to ensure I get positive responses 

As such, I rarely avail myself of statistical lists, which some others regard as the ultimate assessment.

I have no biases against or for any players  (apart from Dom Tyson ) and my responses are based purely and solely on gut feel and observations. 
I do not claim to be an expert or infallible, and I can accept it when my opinions are dismissed, however they are only my personal opinions , as indicated by the masthead each week , and as such I’m entitled to write whatever I wish.

Everyone has the choice to agree or disagree with my musings, but rather than make spurious comments about my analyses, others are quite welcome to put me on ‘block’ or offer 3 worded alternatives.

Hopefully most D’Landers enjoy or are entertained by my weekly offerings, and I will continue to post them, win , lose , or draw.

I am entertained.

It’s a must read each week joeboy 

1 hour ago, joeboy said:

I rarely respond to anyone who wishes to rebuke or disagree with me, however ‘Bobby’, (who is a regular negative responder) your stupid comments about my apparent preconceived opinions require a response.

I almost always forward my weekly reviews of the game within an hour of the final siren.. living close to the G affords me this opportunity… I don’t wait for ages to ‘get the feel of the room’ to ensure I get positive responses 

As such, I rarely avail myself of statistical lists, which some others regard as the ultimate assessment.

I have no biases against or for any players  (apart from Dom Tyson ) and my responses are based purely and solely on gut feel and observations. 
I do not claim to be an expert or infallible, and I can accept it when my opinions are dismissed, however they are only my personal opinions , as indicated by the masthead each week , and as such I’m entitled to write whatever I wish.

Everyone has the choice to agree or disagree with my musings, but rather than make spurious comments about my analyses, others are quite welcome to put me on ‘block’ or offer 3 worded alternatives.

Hopefully most D’Landers enjoy or are entertained by my weekly offerings, and I will continue to post them, win , lose , or draw.

Tx for your reviews Joeboy.

I too enjoy your posts

Joeboys 3 word analysis is must read demonland gold everyweek. Long may it continue 

Me to Joeboy my first go to when I get home from the game before heading to the Votes, stats and post game thread.!!!

Isn't it the whole point of this thread and forum to discuss and share ideas about this team? Good analysis isn't always the most accurate or precise, but sometimes one that generates good discussion.

Edited July 16, 20231 yr by MrFreeze

Nice one Joseph!

Usually the first thread I look for post match.

4 hours ago, joeboy said:

I rarely respond to anyone who wishes to rebuke or disagree with me, however ‘Bobby’, (who is a regular negative responder) your stupid comments about my apparent preconceived opinions require a response.

I almost always forward my weekly reviews of the game within an hour of the final siren.. living close to the G affords me this opportunity… I don’t wait for ages to ‘get the feel of the room’ to ensure I get positive responses 

As such, I rarely avail myself of statistical lists, which some others regard as the ultimate assessment.

I have no biases against or for any players  (apart from Dom Tyson ) and my responses are based purely and solely on gut feel and observations. 
I do not claim to be an expert or infallible, and I can accept it when my opinions are dismissed, however they are only my personal opinions , as indicated by the masthead each week , and as such I’m entitled to write whatever I wish.

Everyone has the choice to agree or disagree with my musings, but rather than make spurious comments about my analyses, others are quite welcome to put me on ‘block’ or offer 3 worded alternatives.

Hopefully most D’Landers enjoy or are entertained by my weekly offerings, and I will continue to post them, win , lose , or draw.

@joeboy 

I always enjoy your post because it's a great way to get a vibe and test my own thoughts against other thoughts quickly and easily.

Whenever I disagree I always try to find an alternative three word assessment that captures my perception. It's harder than one would think! I can't imagine doing 23 each week.

Long term reader, ex Demonology person.

Bobby Mck is taking the p iss here. I hope so anyway.

3 word is a great thread. Love it JB

 

9 hours ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

ANB first man picked almost! a team player through and through. He brings others into play with his tackling , chasing etc.

I'd love it if ANB has 30 pressure acts and 15 tackles a game, plus the occasional goal. But he does screw up a lot of disposals.

On 7/16/2023 at 3:18 PM, joeboy said:

I rarely respond to anyone who wishes to rebuke or disagree with me, however ‘Bobby’, (who is a regular negative responder) your stupid comments about my apparent preconceived opinions require a response.

I almost always forward my weekly reviews of the game within an hour of the final siren.. living close to the G affords me this opportunity… I don’t wait for ages to ‘get the feel of the room’ to ensure I get positive responses 

As such, I rarely avail myself of statistical lists, which some others regard as the ultimate assessment.

I have no biases against or for any players  (apart from Dom Tyson ) and my responses are based purely and solely on gut feel and observations. 
I do not claim to be an expert or infallible, and I can accept it when my opinions are dismissed, however they are only my personal opinions , as indicated by the masthead each week , and as such I’m entitled to write whatever I wish.

Everyone has the choice to agree or disagree with my musings, but rather than make spurious comments about my analyses, others are quite welcome to put me on ‘block’ or offer 3 worded alternatives.

Hopefully most D’Landers enjoy or are entertained by my weekly offerings, and I will continue to post them, win , lose , or draw.

I am honoured to receive a reply to my post Joeboy. Such a happening is so very rare. I do read your thoughts with interest but you do seem to be greatly influenced by the result of the game. Lose by a point and the majority of comments are bad making it look like we had lost by 10 goals. Did you really dislike Dom Tyson or was that a tongue in cheek comment? Keep up the good work and I will try to be less negative in my thoughts. Cheers from an old, experienced football follower.

Yours is always the best read after every match @joeboy.

Keep it up.......and you are right....Tyson couldn't mark, or kick the ball to Melbourne players.

Edited July 19, 20231 yr by george_on_the_outer

Joeboy like others I mostly read your thread, and enjoy or are interested in your comments.

I am amazed at how smart snd perceptive you can be.   And on other days appalled at your inability to see how player (a) played to his instructions. 
 

all in 3 words.  Keep it up.  Whatever it is.

It's also hard to do something like this every week as a knee-jerk, even doing the votes can be a challenge. I like the instant reaction nature of this thread before everyone puts their two cents in on the postgame thread. 

On 7/15/2023 at 9:04 PM, deanox said:

Nibbler had 5 clangers. Here is the definition of a clangers:

Clanger: An error made by a player resulting in a negative result for his side. Disposal clangers are any kick or handball that directly turns the ball over to the opposition. Frees and 50-metre penalties against, No Pressure Errors, Dropped Marks and Debits are all included in clangers.

 

Given he had 2 free kicks against, there was a maximum of 3 disposal related clangers. I have a recollection that he dropped a mark too, so perhaps it's only 2 disposal related clangers?

 

Nibbler definitely isn't a one touch player, he is prone to fumbling at critical times (mostly because he has worked hard to get to the ball at those critical times). But the AFL definitions around effective disposal, disposal efficiency and clangers etc arent conducive to this type of analysis.

 

Frees and 50-metre penalties against, No Pressure Errors, Dropped Marks and Debits are all included in clangers.

So, what's a "debit"?

PS: (1) I love Joeboy's work, even when I don't agree and (2) ANB is a critical player in the team for all he does when he doesn't have the ball, such as taking the hits to allow Petracca and others to do the pretty stuff.

9 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Yours is always the best read after every match @joeboy.

Keep it up.......and you are right....Tyson couldn't mark, or kick the ball to Melbourne players.

That's not true.

 

He played the dees at least twice when he played for the roos.

joeboy - I too look forward to your weekly analysis.

I don't always agree, but then I don't always agree with my wife, my children, the weather forecasters, 

“Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social enviroment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions."

(Essay to Leo Baeck, 1953)” 
― Albert Einstein

6 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Frees and 50-metre penalties against, No Pressure Errors, Dropped Marks and Debits are all included in clangers.

So, what's a "debit"?

PS: (1) I love Joeboy's work, even when I don't agree and (2) ANB is a critical player in the team for all he does when he doesn't have the ball, such as taking the hits to allow Petracca and others to do the pretty stuff.

Honestly, I had no idea, and couldn't find anything on the champion data website too describe it.

But I found a research article published by researchers at Vic Uni (including a WB staffer) that stated Debits were points lost from dropped marks, no pressure errors, and missed tackles. 

So I think the champion data definition I quoted above is tautological.

Edited July 20, 20231 yr by deanox

13 hours ago, binman said:

That's not true.

 

He played the dees at least twice when he played for the roos.

Serious sizzle there Binman! 

Edited July 20, 20231 yr by layzie

3 hours ago, layzie said:

Serious sizzle there Binman! 

Yeah Tyson tried his best and was quite a serviceable player

Did a lot better than any of us hacks

Edited July 21, 20231 yr by Macca