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PREGAME: Rd 16 vs GWS

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2 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Brown in and forward, Petty back to Casey to be replaced by Tomlinson (should never have been dropped in the first place).

Good call Clint. I was one that was disappointed Tommo was dropped but did not say anything when teams announced but with hindsight Goody stuffed up big time. Petty was a liability and Tommo a better option. Plus he is a bigger body strength wise in the wet . Not sure about Brown. Be interesting how the guys go for Casey tomorrow as I reckon a few that played tonight will be nervous. Petty is one plus Kozzie, ANB, Chandler and Brayshaw.  Gawn also but that wont happen. Goody needs to make a statement and if a few put there hands up tomorrow for Casey I'm happy to drop some including the big heads.

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    My gut from hearing Richardson pre-game is that Oliver won’t be ready. 

    I’d drop Petty and send him to Casey to find form. I disliked the decision to bring him in for Tomlinson when it was announced and the more I think about it the more I hate it. We’d seemingly settled on him as a forward, he then doesn’t play football at all for 6 weeks, and then we decide not only to insert him straight back in off no prep against Geelong in Geelong, but to do so in defence when we were coming off one of our best defensive games all year, forcing us to drop Tomlinson after his best game in years.

    Never ever play Spargo as the sub again (nor any other small forward). Midfielders or utilities only. It shouldn’t even need to be said. Spargo was bad anyway, and shouldn’t come back into the 22.

    Smith was good in the first half but a major problem in the second half when he routinely failed to stop Stewart from marking. Must lift, but I’m not at all confident he has the ability. 

    I want Rivers in the middle permanently and Bowey into the backline. Rivers takes Jordon’s spot.

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    I want to know why our big forwards, and our small forwards never make a lead. They all wait in a 12-man pack for someone to bomb it in. I saw Hawkins ( was it Rohan?) take a mark on a lead that must have started before the kicker even had possession. Not even Max can reliably take marks down forward when he's in a 12-man pack. We need more movement in the F50 when we have the ball. 

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    Chandler is a classic case of being down on confidence and form. desperately needs a couple of weeks at Casey if possible

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    In: Jackavich, Pedo, Danny Seow and Nathan Carroll

    Out: Footballers that [censored] themselves under a bit of pressure

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    IN: Clarry, Bowey, Harmes  and Tomlinson

    OUT: Jordon, Hibberd, Smith and Spargo

     

    B: Lever, May, McVee

    HB: Salem, Tomlinson, Rivers

    C: Hunter, Oliver, Langdon

    HF: Petracca, Petty, Neal-Bullen

    F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Pickett

    IC: Bowey, Grundy, Sparrow, Chandler

    SUB: Harmes

    Edited by WERRIDEE

    7 hours ago, The heart beats true said:

    Isn’t every one just thrilled that we gave up a home game to travel interstate?

    Geelong got momentum from their crowd and played to their strengths at home. We gave this game up.

    I absolutely hate it. Melbourne homes games at the G only. If we want to be taken seriously start acting that way.

    Honest question: can someone that knows explain how that worked? That is, how did we end up with a home game at Geelong? Is that right ?

     


    What I want vs what will happen are two very different things.

     

    My biggest wish is for a sub that has an impact and isn't a role player, like Spargs but as a "dynamic" sub in wet weather my nan would have been a better choice, as someone else said a bigger body like Harmes who tries to make something happen would have been better. 

    Smith shouldn't get dropped at least he competes and it looks as though he's made enough impact to send Petty back, if they dropped Tommo for Petty off last week Petty will stay and I reckon he needs to work himself back in and that will be done in the AFL team not Casey.

    I'd like Goody to swing the Axe and give the boys a fright, but they will never drop a big name.

    Expected

    Ins: Clarry, Bowey, Spargo (I guess)

    Outs: Jordan, Chandler, Hibbo (Managed, good first 1/2, couple big knocks but also want him for Toby)

    Kozzie to kick a bag in the NT reminiscent of last year.

     

    What I want:

    To play Geelong at the G' for once where they can't abuse their silly home ground advantage.

     

    31 minutes ago, Bystander said:

    Honest question: can someone that knows explain how that worked? That is, how did we end up with a home game at Geelong? Is that right ?

     

    We didn't he's talking about next week against GWS its our home game in the NT, we sell it to them.

    Would happily drop Ed Langdon.  Never seen a more softer player then Cale Morton. Hates the physical contact and dropped simple easy marks because he heard foot steps.

    I would love to give Blake Howes a go but Goody hates rewarding good form at VFL level so we'll forget that one.

    Jordon has hopefully played his last game in the red and blue. He's a battler who's better off getting games at Norf. Great kid but.

    Nibbler will never get dropped so another that we can forget.

    Not sure why we even bother with team changes discussions. It's the same cycle each week with the same out of form favourites getting a game over blokes who are putting in good consistent form at VFL level.

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    8 hours ago, Docs Demons said:

    He has to be dropped. Absolutely a liability. May pressure well but useless when has the ball.

    This is absolutely correct.

    I am sick of the narrative ooh, ANB runs hard. Ooh, ANB is crucial to structures. Ooh, is such a great teammate.

    The guy is an absolute liability. Has no skill. No point of difference. A momentum killer in its worst form. Probably the worst outside mid in the comp. A protected species that needs to go. Now. 

    Edited by dee-tox

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    Fritsch would have to be at risk of copping a week. His opponent’s head hit the ground unfortunately and this seems to be a text book 1 week suspension this year.

    It’s a shame as he’s the one forward that actually knows what he’s doing out there in terms of forward craft.

     


    9 hours ago, YearOfTheDees said:

    Lets just hope it doesn't rain.

    It will either rain or be 27 degrees and we’ll be cooked for St Kilda the following week at Marvel like we ran out of gas against the Dogs last year.

    But hey - It’s good for the community I guess….

    Edited by Bring-Back-Powell

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    Our backman play back shoulder, our forwards play back shoulder.. 🤔🤔

    1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Would happily drop Ed Langdon.  Never seen a more softer player then Cale Morton. Hates the physical contact and dropped simple easy marks because he heard foot steps.

    What a load of garbage, I suppose you bagged him pretty good on facebook

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    9 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

    Spargo not the sub

    Starting to feel that Spargo is quite limited as a footballer. I give credit to his use of ball but he just doesn't get the pill often enough .

    He is good as a small forward although can't kick past 40m very often.

    But since we have Chandler up fwd with Kozzie, Spargos previously role as a goalsneak has diminished  somewhat. Mind you so have the other two.

     

    Edited by leave it to deever

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    8 hours ago, GOLORDIE said:

    I want to know why our big forwards, and our small forwards never make a lead. They all wait in a 12-man pack for someone to bomb it in. I saw Hawkins ( was it Rohan?) take a mark on a lead that must have started before the kicker even had possession. Not even Max can reliably take marks down forward when he's in a 12-man pack. We need more movement in the F50 when we have the ball. 

    I say it every week. Drives me insane our forwards very rarely lead up to the ball, are largely stationary calling for a long kick over the back or to a pack

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    7 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

    What a load of garbage, I suppose you bagged him pretty good on facebook

    I don't have Facebook old fella

    Try again.

    12 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

    Starting to feel that Spargo is quite limited as a footballer. I give credit to his use of ball but he just doesn't get the pill often enough .

    He is good as a small forward although can't kick past 40m very often.

    But since we have Chandler up fwd with Kozzie, Spargos previously role as a goalsneak has diminished  somewhat. Mind you so have the other two.

     

    I thought we’d learned our lesson last week when we subbed him out for another mid. 

    We do not need all of Spargo, Chandler, Pickett and ANB in the side. IMO Spargo offers the least. He should never, ever, be the sub. 

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    40 minutes ago, SPC said:

    Our backman play back shoulder, our forwards play back shoulder.. 🤔🤔

    Seriously, when we finally hack a long and useless ball into the 50 I half expect our forwards to go for a spoil. You could be forgiven for thinking the midfielder just kicked it the wrong way.

    We need to be proactive as forwards, Fritsch is the only one that will vary his leads up and actually give his opponent something to think about. Smith, while he took some nice grabs just doesn't offer this. Stewart was lying out there sipping pina coladas as he got intercept after intercept.

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    16 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

    He should never, ever, be the sub. 

    Good call, he's a specialised type of player with a more limited skillset than kozzie, Anb  and Chandler.

    To have him as a sub just doesn't make any sense at all.

    2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Would happily drop Ed Langdon.  Never seen a more softer player then Cale Morton. Hates the physical contact and dropped simple easy marks because he heard foot steps.

    I would love to give Blake Howes a go but Goody hates rewarding good form at VFL level so we'll forget that one.

    Jordon has hopefully played his last game in the red and blue. He's a battler who's better off getting games at Norf. Great kid but.

    Nibbler will never get dropped so another that we can forget.

    Not sure why we even bother with team changes discussions. It's the same cycle each week with the same out of form favourites getting a game over blokes who are putting in good consistent form at VFL level.

    Dazzle, who legitimately is playing better at Casey though? I’ve watched all their games this year and aside from Howes, Disco and Woewodin I don’t reckon there’s much there.

    Howes and Turner aren’t better players than our current backline.

    We seem to be light on for outside skill.


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