POSTGAME: Rd 10 vs Yartapuulti

[Seraph 1,824]

2 minutes ago, poita said:

Viney's effort was one of the most dangerous things I've seen in an AFL game for a long time. That could easily have resulted in a broken leg. 

He slipped while trying to kick a ball off the deck in the wet. Your hyperbole is not necessary.

[The heart beats true 18,145]

1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

OUTCOACHED YET AGAIN

I’m sorry but Goodwin remains the problem…..he’s got the best talent in the league and can’t get them firing

Dunno. I love this playing group but our midfield gets beaten way too much as a group against top sides.

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

Wait for the MRO to give Hunter 3 games. I’ll put my house on it. What was he supposed to do

[Jack7 528]

JVR lost us the game,ripping guys heads off twice,goals!!!

 

Back to the 2's,not up to AFL standard yet

[spalding 1,128]

Why do I read this after a loss?

[MoeSyzlak 669]

35 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Gameplan and coaching lost that one.

The irony is that Port weren't that good.

We're going nowhere while Goody has them playing like robots

100% correct. 
 

The gameplan is outdated, stagnant and predictable. It never changes. We are wasting an excellent list and the twilight years of Gawn and May with poor coaching. 
 

Compare our stagnant and robotic gameplay to the freedom, attack and aggression of Collingwood. 
 

Pies are standing up for their Daisoc when he was getting physical attention and absolutely ruthless with their attack on the man and the ball.  And we are helping the opposition players off the ground with a pat on the back.
 

We are far too nice, poorly coached and not hungry enough to trouble September. And mark my words we are no chance on Kings Birthday. 

[Roost it far 8,590]

5 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

Dunno. I love this playing group but our midfield gets beaten way too much as a group against top sides.

Outcoached again. Mays absurd kick outs, selecting TMac, smashed at clearances, no forward system. I’m sorry but these are coaching flaws. Had they kicked straight we’d have been dead at half time. Bemoan the umpiring, JVR’s mistakes but the facts are plain to see. We’re running a Rolls Royce on dirty tractor diesel with Goodwin at the helm

and yes can we please go into bat for our team mates and let the opposition pick themselves up. [censored]!

Edited May 19, 2023 by Roost it far

[Little Goffy 14,639]

In a heavy wet game metres gained is a crucial stat and we allowed Houston, Rozee, Williams and Butters to each make 500m+ gained, for almost 3km between the four of them.

Meanwhile, Darcy Byrne-Jones laid more tackles inside 50 than our entire team.

Our most obvious poor games from senior players were Langdon, Viney, Pickett and Brayshaw, but I also think Neal-Bullen was either terribly misused or completely failed to do his defensive pressure job on any of those ball movers mentioned.

Port are known for their fast movement and ability to create 1v1s in attack at the risk of 1v1s on the rebound against them (as noted in the 'what they are saying at' thread) and combining that with the wet weather disturbing our intercept game, it was a double exposure which we didn't handle well at all, either as players or in tactical adaptation.

As a side note -

Clayton Oliver actually had another excellent game, leading clearances, tackles and contested possessions, and being amongst our best for score involvements, metres gained and, once again, the curious story of his intercept possessions. I don't know what people expect of him but he was without doubt among our best.

And the 'Steven May kicking in long to the left' obsession people have is getting tiresome. It is well established that as a set-up it is the most effective kick-out routine in the AFL on the balance of points scored vs points conceded. Not much May, or the plan, can do to account for two rucks taking only two marks (none contested) in a game and not even being effective at bring it down to teammates.

[SPC 3,551]

Pickett is in a lean patch since the new contract 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

15 minutes ago, Seraph said:

They had 3 marks paid in the last quarter that either hit the ground or clearly came off a teammate.

2 within the last 2 minutes.

And yet nothing from the media?? Absolutely nothing - when it was GC a few weeks , heard about it all night and week and in the presser. 

[mauriesy 7,357]

25 minutes ago, Winter Dan said:

We've been horrible in wet weather for a long time now. Time to get the hose out at training.

We kicked 7 goals in the wettest quarter of the match. 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,939]

Cameron Mooney: Melbourne are still my premiership favourites.

- Fox Footy post game.

He gave us a massive amount of credit for our fight back in hostile territory.

[P-man 13,366]

Port simply cleaner and harder when it counted. Comical umpiring but that’s become the standard in this league. Perfectly summed up by being whistle happy all night yet failing to pay the most blatant protected zone 50 we will likely see all year. Could very well have flipped the result.

Has to be one of Max’s most ineffectual games. Not sure what it is about this mob that spooks him.

Credit to Trac who was clearly not 100% but found a way to impose himself on the game. Would’ve been a big part of the win if we had pinched it.

[bluey 1,117]

Team is slow as treacle, Viney, Bradshaw, Petracca, Spargo, no pace whatsoever.

Van Rooyen not going to make it, bring back Brown.

No answers at Casey or in the coaches box.

 

 

 

[Redleg 41,428]

34 minutes ago, rolling fog said:

I just can’t get past that double 50 not paid to Lever!!!!

The inconsistency of umpiring - whether it’s dissent, the stand rule, holding the ball or obstructing a 50m penalty - does my bloody head in!!!!

Jono Brown gave the answer on the non 2nd 50, said if they paid it and it was clear there, MFC could have won.That’s why it wasn’t paid, like plenty of other blatant frees.

Wish Chris Scott was our coach just for the media conference.

Edited May 19, 2023 by Redleg

[Trac-man 13]

How in the Hell could our coaches watch Butters run around like he did tonight?? We are becoming a soft and predictable side to coach against and to play against..And as for May and those kick outs WTF

[Jaded No More 68,974]

4 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

 

And the 'Steven May kicking in long to the left' obsession people have is getting tiresome. It is well established that as a set-up it is the most effective kick-out routine in the AFL on the balance of points scored vs points conceded. Not much May, or the plan, can do to account for two rucks taking only two marks (none contested) in a game and not even being effective at bring it down to teammates.

It only works when you have players at the drop of the ball to get the ball when it hits the deck. Melbourne players that is. 

[loges 6,767]

Kozzie for all his defensive acts too often hardly gets hands on ball.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

11 minutes ago, MoeSyzlak said:

100% correct. 
 

The gameplan is outdated, stagnant and predictable. It never changes. We are wasting an excellent list and the twilight years of Gawn and May with poor coaching. 
 

Compare our stagnant and robotic gameplay to the freedom, attack and aggression of Collingwood. 
 

Pies are standing up for their Daisoc when he was getting physical attention and absolutely ruthless with their attack on the man and the ball.  And we are helping the opposition players off the ground with a pat on the back.
 

We are far too nice, poorly coached and not hungry enough to trouble September. And mark my words we are no chance on Kings Birthday. 

You are right, but we don’t have the cattle to play that brand. 80% of our side can’t hit a target under pressure and the 20% who can can’t win a ground ball.

Our side is built for contest, stoppage and defence. It will be until we turn the list over by about 50%. So expect much of the same.

What we need to do with our list as Power is similar is the forward half game. 76 of 80 Powers’ points came from forward half turn over or stoppage. 
 

While most of ours come from defensive half. It’s hard to win games like that and it all boils down to effort. It’s been plain to see for weeks now. We are not working hard enough. 

 

Edited May 19, 2023 by Gawndy the Great

[Redlagged 813]

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Cameron Mooney: Melbourne are still my premiership favourites.

- Fox Footy post game.

He gave us a massive amount of credit for our fight back in hostile territory.

Of dear. Just as well he doesn't take notice of the bedwetters who infest this site.

[Roost it far 8,590]

Just now, bluey said:

Team is slow as treacle, Viney, Bradshaw, Petracca, Spargo, no pace whatsoever.

Van Rooyen not going to make it, bring back Brown.

No answers at Casey or in the coaches box.

 

 

 

Viney and Petracca more than make up for lack of leg spied so that criticism is plain stupid

yes to Brown

need new coaches asap

 

[Flower Magic 776]

31 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

Port simply could not and will not play better. As for us, why we can't change how we play to suit the conditions is beyond me. About time the club made an official complaint about how Gawn is treated on the field.

Not so sure about that. Dixon and Marshall missing tonight. Horne-Francis and Butters are dead-set guns. Can see them staying in the top 4.

[mauriesy 7,357]

4 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

In a heavy wet game metres gained is a crucial stat and we allowed Houston, Rozee, Williams And the 'Steven May kicking in long to the left' obsession people have is getting tiresome. It is well established that as a set-up it is the most effective kick-out routine in the AFL on the balance of points scored vs points conceded. Not much May, or the plan, can do to account for two rucks taking only two marks (none contested) in a game and not even being effective at bring it down to teammates.

Port knew to put two or three players directly behind the pack May was kicking to, to either receive the ball knocked outover the top or the contested ball they won when it was fed out to them.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,939]

4 minutes ago, Trac-man said:

How in the Hell could our coaches watch Butters run around like he did tonight?? We are becoming a soft and predictable side to coach against and to play against..And as for May and those kick outs WTF

If the press are worth their salt they’ll ask Goodwin why we conceded 40 or so touches and 2 goals to Butters who was single handedly responsible for his clubs win.

Edited May 19, 2023 by Bring-Back-Powell

[The heart beats true 18,145]

1 minute ago, mauriesy said:

Port knew to put two or three players directly behind the pack May was kicking to, to either receive the ball knocked outover the top or the contested ball they won when it was fed out to them.

Essendon showed them how. It was the exact same plan.