On 19/05/2023 at 12:53, dees189227 said:

That rivers free kick on the 3/4 time siren really really hurt. It's a massive thing going into the final quarter up by 17 points and then we gave it away and only went in by 11 points. 

On that last lever play. There was massive space for someone to lead up, we had time to set it up. 

It really was worth 2 goals on balance. I'm confident we would have brought it home if the lead was 17

  On 19/05/2023 at 12:54, layzie said:

Yeah that bump ball was a joke, umpire about 10 metres away too 

They had 3 marks paid in the last quarter that either hit the ground or clearly came off a teammate.

2 within the last 2 minutes.

  On 19/05/2023 at 12:52, Garbo said:

Game plan imo, we haven’t adjusted and teams have us figured out. We always play an extra behind the ball giving up equal numbers at the contest, this only works if we can split it at the contest and get the ball back via an interception often enough when we don’t. Problem is we aren’t winning it at the contest nearly enough and teams are being smarter when going forward. Goody needs to even out the numbers at the contest to give ourselves a chance. 

I think you also need to consider that maybe we are just a little soft. Maybe we just severely lack leg speed, but we just don't look like we're hitting contests or pressuring opposition exits as hard and fast as is being done to us.

I feel for Goodwin. On one hand he does seem to have a real stubbornness about his approach. But how hard would it be to develop a plan when the players are so inconsistent with their intensity? He shouldn't need to be dealing with that. These guys have seen the reward you get from manic pressure and ferocious attack at the contest, yet since they tasted the success in 2021 they haven't been willing or able to apply themselves like that for more than a qtr here or there.

  On 19/05/2023 at 12:28, Demonland said:

Narrm traveled interstate for the sixth time in ten game and failed to fire a shot in the first half of the match before a spirited comeback in the third but ultimately fell short losing to Yartapuulti by 4 points.

It's the 5th time actually. 

The first half was as bad as we've played all year or worse, and their ability to pressure and be clean when it mattered (the winning goal for example) was the tale of the night. 

I can only assume the 5 day break accompanied by travel was a huge factor in the game tonight.

Have our fitness staff got it right or is it just too taxing a schedule?

Edited May 19, 20231 yr by A F

Of course the useless sack of skin Tom Browne thinks Hunter is in trouble because he “elected to bump”. Hodge trying to bring some common sense into the equation. What were his options??

I can see a run of 4 straight losses staring us right in between the eyes.

Alsonwhat is our record with Naarm? Love the concept but the experiment is over… costing us games 😂

Edited May 19, 20231 yr by Gawndy the Great

  On 19/05/2023 at 12:42, Nairobi_Demon said:

We rectified the clearance differential in Q3 and it made all the difference, particularly because if we lost the centre clearance and they got it in their forward 50 we couldn't for the life of us get it out.  We managed to rectify clearances largely because Petracca spent more time in the middle.  

Funny you can’t get out hey when it’s highlighted on AFL360 to everyone we kick to the same spot all the time like last year. Think it’s a not a bad ploy but fu©️k maybe 1 in 5 change it up

Edited May 19, 20231 yr by Dusty_Hill

  On 19/05/2023 at 12:48, dazzledavey36 said:

Where do you start?

Letting Butters run around with zero pressure on him was seriously mind boggling. 

This is already on top of our so called A grade midfield getting absolutely smashed in the clearences. Some serious questions and heat needs to go Adem Yze. They had a lumbering ruckman vs two A graders and yet simply couldn't use that to our advantage. Still utterly gobsmacked by that.

What the hell has happened to Langdon? He's seriously one of the softest players in the league. Needed him to throw himself at that last contest inside our forward 50 and just bring the ball to ground. Refused to bend over and pick up a ground ball or lay a body when it was his turn to go. He's a shadow of himself. 

Where was Kozzie? Signs his contract and hasn't done anything since? No forward half pressure or run down tackles. They waltzed it out way too easily and when we genuinely needed a spark in the last he was MIA.

What was up with our kick outs? It got so damn predictable that Port flooded all their numbers because they knew every kick would go to thr left side. Once it was kicked there they completely out numbered us around the contest. 

JVR needs a genuine spray. Gave away two clumsy free kicks inside their forward 50 which resulted in a goal. They won by a [censored] goal. Seriously kid, pull your head in.

Tmac was absolutely awful. 

Brayshaw got shown up for his poor fitness in the midfield and got genuinely exposed as a slow plodder. Butters, Drew and Wines absolutely ran rings around him. They shifted him down back when Bowey went down and he was non existent once again. 

So disappointing. When Rivers gave away that free right on the 3 quarter time siren I knew that would spark them. We just need to hold that lead. 

Thought Steven May had a great game as did Rivers as well. Not much after that.

Brayshaw is dead set overweight. 

  On 19/05/2023 at 12:36, The heart beats true said:

By my reckoning our midfield has been beaten 70% of game time this year. Out hunted, our worked.

out coached

  On 19/05/2023 at 12:55, The Stewster said:

I'm livid at that non decision.

Front on contact doesn't get paid at AO.

 

Geez I'm getting fed up with Gawn getting targetted by this mob and absolutely nobody flying the flag for him.

Where is that tough, brutal, hard edge we played with in 2021?

It doesn't help that he sooks it up and continually goes to ground either.

  On 19/05/2023 at 12:52, Garbo said:

Game plan imo, we haven’t adjusted and teams have us figured out. We always play an extra behind the ball giving up equal numbers at the contest, this only works if we can split it at the contest and get the ball back via an interception often enough when we don’t. Problem is we aren’t winning it at the contest nearly enough and teams are being smarter when going forward. Goody needs to even out the numbers at the contest to give ourselves a chance. 

In games where points are only being scored from clearances yes absolutely 

They were cleaner simple as that. Our skills are a problem. We competed but we didn't have the class of Port. 

9-2 free kicks in the last quarter, it would be foolish to say that it didn't have an impact when the game was on the line. 

Won't deny that port were the better team for most if not all of that first half but when the game was in the balance gee the men in green did everything they could to get the power over the line. 

Our travelling record and performances interstate this season are very concerning and our clearance work is just nowhere near where it could/should be with the midfield we've got. 

Disappointing result but were outplayed for 3 quarters and only lost by 4 points. A couple of game changers were Rivers poor kick that led to a goal to Port and JVR’s head high tackle in our backline as well as JVR giving away a free kick by retaliating. 

  On 19/05/2023 at 13:01, MoeSyzlak said:

Brayshaw is dead set overweight. 

Of course he is and have been saying that since pre season.

But careful saying that, you'll get absolutely smashed on here..

  On 19/05/2023 at 12:56, Gawndy the Great said:

Oh but the umpires were terrible. We didn’t deserve the win but the umpires made sure we didn’t.

There were about 3-4 goals in total from frees of which 1-2 were genuine.

How Lever didn’t get a double 50? There were about 3 front on contacts missed when Frotta gets pinged for contested a 50/50 ball. 

It is just amateur hour  with umpires and the game is largely becoming unwatchable. 

Yes, umpires made mistakes and we suffered because of a few of them.

TMac also got a goal when he clearly was holding the opposition jumper.

Lever should not have got the 50 metre penalty at all for the tiny indiscretion against him by the port player.

Viney did 2 high tackles not called by the umpires.

 

 

  On 19/05/2023 at 12:58, Stiff Arm said:

Hunter will get 12 weeks, karma for JVR

Viney will get 8 weeks for sliding with feet, karma for JVR

ANB will get 4 weeks (at Casey)

Viney's effort was one of the most dangerous things I've seen in an AFL game for a long time. That could easily have resulted in a broken leg. 

  On 19/05/2023 at 13:02, Hellaintabadplacetobe said:

Where is that tough, brutal, hard edge we played with in 2021?

It's gone. We seem to be back to being the club that can be gotten in the physicality stakes...just like most of the last 50 years. Teams like Collingwood will be licking their lips at the prospect of out hustling our guys.

  On 19/05/2023 at 13:05, Maldonboy38 said:

Yes, umpires made mistakes and we suffered because of a few of them.

TMac also got a goal when he clearly was holding the opposition jumper.

Lever should not have got the 50 metre penalty at all for the tiny indiscretion against him by the port player.

Viney did 2 high tackles not called by the umpires.

 

 

Technically that should have been 2 x 50 metres to Lever. The umpires are instructed to tell the player running on the mark to clear out or give away another 50. Did he? No. Not at the Adelaide Oval.

OUTCOACHED YET AGAIN

I’m sorry but Goodwin remains the problem…..he’s got the best talent in the league and can’t get them firing

We allow far too much uncontested possession. Any team with a bit of foot speed and decent use by foot will carve us up. Too many one paced plodders in the team.

I cant believe we lost by four points when the was ball parked in our defensive 50 for about 70% of the game. It was like we only made cameo entries in attacking 50. 

Edited May 19, 20231 yr by John Crow Batty

  On 19/05/2023 at 13:04, dazzledavey36 said:

Of course he is and have been saying that since pre season.

But careful saying that, you'll get absolutely smashed on here..

His fitness was lacking big time in the middle. Would have moved him back with or without the Bowey injury  

  On 19/05/2023 at 13:04, Tom Dyson said:

9-2 free kicks in the last quarter, it would be foolish to say that it didn't have an impact when the game was on the line. 

Won't deny that port were the better team for most if not all of that first half but when the game was in the balance gee the men in green did everything they could to get the power over the line. 

Our travelling record and performances interstate this season are very concerning and our clearance work is just nowhere near where it could/should be with the midfield we've got. 

I thought they were puss yellow?