POSTGAME: Rd 10 vs Yartapuulti

[Tom Dyson 1,633]

To defend Steven May or at least whoever wants to persist with the kick out strategy (goody, chaplin etc. ) 

I think there was an article recently that we concede the least amount of goals from kick out or maybe it was that we have the best differential from kick outs. 

Tonight though when the ball would come to ground, as Max or the rest of the talls were able to do successfully, we rarely had crumbers front and centre to collect but you could bet your bottom dollar drew, butters, jhf or rozee were positioned perfectly.

I'd dare say our third quarter would demonstrate that our smalls did put themselves in the right place. 

If we bank on each kick in at least being brought to ground by our talls then surely our smalls would react accordingly but it didn't appear like that tonight. 

Our defensive system needs a serious reset in how we defend through the corridor as well, collingwood will cut us to pieces if we give up that much real-estate through the centre of the ground. 

[Roost it far 8,309]

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If the press are worth their salt they’ll ask Goodwin why we conceded 44 or so touches to Butters who was single handedly responsible for his clubs win.

“Because we believe in our system”

[P-man 13,366]

Goody saying the one sidedness of the first half wasn’t a surprise. Would’ve thought getting obliterated in clearances should be at least something of a surprise.

[Jaded No More 68,966]

Just now, P-man said:

Goody saying the one sidedness of the first half wasn’t a surprise. Would’ve thought getting obliterated in clearances should be at least something of a surprise.

Or at least a concern? 😳

[Red But Mostly Blue 4,547]

Goody says ports game was exactly what we expected…

… yet we did nothing to plan for it or counteract it? Or tag butters after his millionth possession.

Goody is so incredibly annoying at these pressers sometimes. 

[dazzledavey36 55,002]

Also, why haven't we played Port in Melbourne since 2019??

Absolute joke that we've had to travel to SA four years in a row to play this [censored] mob.

Sort this [censored] out Gary Pert.

[Seraph 1,824]

8 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

And yet nothing from the media?? Absolutely nothing - when it was GC a few weeks , heard about it all night and week and in the presser. 

We've won a premiership within the past 2 years so tall poppy syndrome applies.

Why would the footy media cover it when the majority wouldn't want to watch coverage about how we were hard done by?

AFL media will promote whatever angle gets the most clicks. That's their entire business model.

[dazzledavey36 55,002]

1 minute ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

Goody says ports game was exactly what we expected…

… yet we did nothing to plan for it or counteract it? Or tag butters after his millionth possession.

Goody is so incredibly annoying at these pressers sometimes. 

I'd rather he not do pressers at all then to come out with that tripe.

[Tom Dyson 1,633]

got to say Trent Rivers deserve some serious credit, tried so hard all night. 

He's got some serious dare and run which at times can be sorely lacking from our transition out of d50. 

[Nairobi_Demon 335]

31 minutes ago, Dusty_Hill said:

Funny you can’t get out hey when it’s highlighted on AFL360 to everyone we kick to the same spot all the time  like last year. Think it’s a Not a bad ploy but fu©️k maybe 1 in 5 change it up

I was less frustrated that we kicked it to the same spot, and more frustrated that our stoppage work was so poor and it would just come straight back in

Edited May 19, 2023 by Nairobi_Demon

[Mel Bourne 4,515]

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Where do you start?

Letting Butters run around with zero pressure on him was seriously mind boggling. 

This is already on top of our so called A grade midfield getting absolutely smashed in the clearences. Some serious questions and heat needs to go Adem Yze. They had a lumbering ruckman vs two A graders and yet simply couldn't use that to our advantage. Still utterly gobsmacked by that.

What the hell has happened to Langdon? He's seriously one of the softest players in the league. Needed him to throw himself at that last contest inside our forward 50 and just bring the ball to ground. Refused to bend over and pick up a ground ball or lay a body when it was his turn to go. He's a shadow of himself. 

Where was Kozzie? Signs his contract and hasn't done anything since? No forward half pressure or run down tackles. They waltzed it out way too easily and when we genuinely needed a spark in the last he was MIA.

What was up with our kick outs? It got so damn predictable that Port flooded all their numbers because they knew every kick would go to thr left side. Once it was kicked there they completely out numbered us around the contest. 

JVR needs a genuine spray. Gave away two clumsy free kicks inside their forward 50 which resulted in a goal. They won by a [censored] goal. Seriously kid, pull your head in.

Tmac was absolutely awful. 

Brayshaw got shown up for his poor fitness in the midfield and got genuinely exposed as a slow plodder. Butters, Drew and Wines absolutely ran rings around him. They shifted him down back when Bowey went down and he was non existent once again. 

So disappointing. When Rivers gave away that free right on the 3 quarter time siren I knew that would spark them. We just need to hold that lead. 

Thought Steven May had a great game as did Rivers as well. Not much after that.

Pretty much entirely agree with this. It’s just missing a paragraph about Fritsch. 
 

JVR will get a chat, but I don’t agree with the people calling to drop him (not that you are). He needs games drilled into him, and he needs to learn the only way. He’ll be feeling rubbish for giving that free away, as he should. But rubbing his nose in it at Casey doesn’t serve the team well. Especially when you look at our ghostly forward line at present. 
 

Koz has enough moments of brilliance to distract us from the fact that he is still an incomplete footballer. But even by his own patchy-standards, he was very poor tonight. He just seems selective about when he chooses to take the game on. I’m watching Eddie Betts on the broadcast now, and thinking about how he would just hunt for the heart of the match and always be a massive presence. Maybe it’s how he’s being coached, but Koz is just not taking these recent games on. 

TMac is the random object you use when you’ve lost a Monopoly piece. He’s become a barometer for me about where our best 22 is at. If he’s in, someone better is injured. 

Hoping Ben Brown is ready to come back now, and determined to play his best football. 
 

May was great. Hibbo has become crucial. Lever’s intercept marks were sadly missed. 

Trac and Oliver were brilliant at times, but Trac’s first half was one of his worst in recent times. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, and thinking it would have been tough conditions for an iffy ankle. Oliver’s chaos didn’t pay off enough times. 

Gawn was well and truly taken out of the game. The only thing that can fix that is coaching, but nothing stuck. 

ANB, Chandler, Spargo and Koz  couldn’t seem to get near the ball, which in a game of wet weather football is unacceptable from our smalls. 

But I’m not despairing after that loss. Horrible conditions and easily the most hostile away-game arena. We don’t fold now, and this is a huge thing that was missing for so long. 

[Older demon 2,741]

We lost by 4 points and it is the middle of May. We have JVR, Chandler and McGee whose games tally is barely in double figures. We have come off a short break and our 5th interstate trip in 10 games. Rember it is how you finish the season.

Trac didn't look 100 % and despite his detractors the midfield missed Sparrow. Yes I am surprised that Butters was allowed to run rampant and to a lesser extent Rozee, we don't appear to have any run with players. 

We gave away soft goals from free kicks which cost us the game and in tonights condition no Marshall or Dixon may have actually helped. It was a coaching master stroke to put Burton, a defender on Lever and he scored. And twice Lord marked because he played in front of Lever.

Let's wait and see how we develop the season particularly our forward structure as 2 rucks, JVR and Mac didn't really work tonight. There is lots of room for improvement

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

Just watched Goody’s presser. Thank god we don’t have to play in Adelaide again this season, but also I hope to god we don’t have to play a Prelim there this year.

Also, I reckon Goody will look back at this game and regret the “experimenting” (his words) in the middle with putting Gus in the middle for so long which sacrificed Petracca’s centre bounce attendance. We looked much better when Trac was in the guts and not forward

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,862]

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Also, why haven't we played Port in Melbourne since 2019??

Absolute joke that we've had to travel to SA four years in a row to play this [censored] mob.

Sort this [censored] out Gary Pert.

In fairness we were fixtured to play Port in round 8 2020 at the MCG before COVID ruined the original fixture.

And in 2022 we played them in Alice. The AFL had to fixture us against someone up there given our insistence to sell a game up there.

Edited May 19, 2023 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Robbie22 25]

We need more speed and clean ball use around the centre bounce - did Kossie go in there at all tonight? 

[Mel Bourne 4,515]

1 minute ago, Older demon said:

We lost by 4 points and it is the middle of May. We have JVR, Chandler and McGee whose games tally is barely in double figures. We have come off a short break and our 5th interstate trip in 10 games. Rember it is how you finish the season.

Trac didn't look 100 % and despite his detractors the midfield missed Sparrow. Yes I am surprised that Butters was allowed to run rampant and to a lesser extent Rozee, we don't appear to have any run with players. 

We gave away soft goals from free kicks which cost us the game and in tonights condition no Marshall or Dixon may have actually helped. It was a coaching master stroke to put Burton, a defender on Lever and he scored. And twice Lord marked because he played in front of Lever.

Let's wait and see how we develop the season particularly our forward structure as 2 rucks, JVR and Mac didn't really work tonight. There is lots of room for improvement

McVee ✌️

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,083]

Blaming the umpire is just the feel-better option.

We are *** **** in the wet, it doesn't suit us one bit. Our forward line is a mess and massively underperforming. Look at the top teams and their forward lines and then ours, not a single player aside from Chandler is actually stringing good games together.

I would hate to see what we would look like without 2 of the best midfielders in the comp in this team.

Collingwood will destroy us on Kings Birthday.

[Dusty_Hill 194]

43 minutes ago, rolling fog said:

I’m done with Ch.7 commentary - it’s so sub standard in so many areas it’s now a joke.

I’m now at the stage of syncing up Kayo with SEN/3AW etc. 

let me know when you figure out how

[Brownie 5,981]

6 minutes ago, Tom Dyson said:

To defend Steven May or at least whoever wants to persist with the kick out strategy (goody, chaplin etc. ) 

I think there was an article recently that we concede the least amount of goals from kick out or maybe it was that we have the best differential from kick outs. 

Tonight though when the ball would come to ground, as Max or the rest of the talls were able to do successfully, we rarely had crumbers front and centre to collect but you could bet your bottom dollar drew, butters, jhf or rozee were positioned perfectly.

I'd dare say our third quarter would demonstrate that our smalls did put themselves in the right place. 

If we bank on each kick in at least being brought to ground by our talls then surely our smalls would react accordingly but it didn't appear like that tonight. 

Our defensive system needs a serious reset in how we defend through the corridor as well, collingwood will cut us to pieces if we give up that much real-estate through the centre of the ground. 

Yep. I thought the heavy rain in the third brought us back into it. Before then they were cutting us to shreds off half back. The rain slowed the game down which suited us.

As some have said, that whole pre-season dash through the corridor is nowhere to be seen 

On a dry track, Collingwood will kill us just like the cats did through the centre last year.

 

[dees189227 12,394]

If butters got 40 against us what the hell is Nick daicos going to do to us

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,083]

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Also, why haven't we played Port in Melbourne since 2019??

With the Alice game there are certain teams we just never seem to play at the G like Adelaide, West Coast and Port. At least we have had Freo and now recently North at the G.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,704]

1 hour ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

BT and Hodge made that even more unbearable 

too many passengers 

 

wet weather tests our game-style

 

pickett on notice

 

everything went their way

 

move on

 

How many balls went out the back Kozi should have been the deepest forward all night.

Friggen shocking coaching from Goody and Co. Wet weather footy 101.

[dee-tox 4,835]

18 minutes ago, loges said:

Kozzie for all his defensive acts too often hardly gets hands on ball.

Is in terrible form!

But then again so is Langdon, ANB, Chandler and others...

[Kumamoto_Ken 1,531]

Worst holiday ever!

Zero stars, would not recommend.

 

 

 

 

[Demon Dynasty 17,109]

1 hour ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Kossie, front and centre is your role, no forward pressure and half hearted efforts at several ground ball contests for a lot of tonight.

Really poor 

Very much.

It's another fail as a result of too much mid field tinkering by Goody & co imv.  He's no longer specialising as a defensive small forward.   He's being asked to play dual roles (part of this as a pressure / clearance mid) and for a young player who's an instinctive opportunist, this probably doesn't work and so far doesn't appear to be.  Jack of all trades imv.

I don't mind a few of the boys running through 666 bounces but we've gone too far with giving too many fringe players too much CB attendance that really just aren't up to it.

Im not sure what this achieves.  Other than conserving/resting the main group it just ends up playing them out of form im afraid.  No point having rested players if their best, once they're back there, is no lomger as effective as it once was.

You then get a complete [censored] fest like we saw in the 2nd quarter where most are out of form, even the core group.... clearances 10 - zip!!

By tinkering with the core set up too much, Goody &  Co. have effectively taken away one of our biggest assets and handed that straight over to any mediocre mid field line up or better

You can mask it againat the lessor lights on the outside ground ball / contested work as well as rebounds off HB, turnover pressure & scores that result from those turmovers.

However, against top liners like tonight.... we stand no chance if this experimenting continues as they will simply outscore us by going forward far too easily too often.  Just as we witnessed tonight.

Edited May 19, 2023 by Demon Dynasty