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So after draft concessions and compromises and our premiership this year and next, we give up first round picks 29, 31 and 33. Sounds like a deal to me.

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    11 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Given our relative lack of list spots I can see us trading up for a top 5 pick plus a top 10 pick but it may take several pick swaps with different clubs to get them. 

    So with our footy dept we'd probably do it even if we didn't really want the pair of top-10 selections!

    But seriously, yep, fully agreed we'll likely try for two in the top 10. There will be hilarious shenanigans with future picks for sure.

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    Was playing with the ladder predictor, and I think there are two/three clubs fighting for the #1 pick that just have better excuses to lose than Freo. If I bet, I would take a multi that they beat the hawks twice and WCE once more. Leaving a  minimum of five wins, and maybe another one or two on merit.

    So welcome Pick 4, not a bad track record with it ;-)

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    On 4/27/2023 at 6:27 AM, Waltham33 said:

    Not all pick 1s are the same.  If Reid is the talent that’s being spoken of every team would make that deal. I trust Taylor. either way some talent is coming through the door.

    Make that "SERIOUS TALENT" coming through the door!😁

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    On 4/28/2023 at 8:41 AM, george_on_the_outer said:

    Won't happen.

    1. Clubs at the bottom don't give up No 1 pick....it enables them to showcase themselves and their sponsors.  You don't get the coverage for pick 3, 4. 5 etc.

    2. We are facing our own cliff in a short period of time. 

    Gawn (32), May (31), TMac (31 ), Viney (29), BBB (31), Hibberd (33), Salem (28), Grundy (29).  This will in all likelihood be our only chance to select multiple top end talents at the draft, until these players retire.  One player alone at pick 1 does not produce Premiership success, you need multiple top end players close in age, as we have already proven.

    Very good point George.

    Coupled with the Tassie team coming in around 2025, we like all clubs, will face several years of compromised drafts. Slim pickings from 2025-2028

    Few teams will have the opportunities we have this year to top up an already strong list with a strong draft hand

    Picks around 5, 15, 23 and 33, plus Kynan Brown will indeed be a good draft outcome

    Yze jnr next year, White jrn the year after

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    40 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

    Freo drop to last, we get pick 1 and select Reid.

    Relax, we got this!

    For that to happen we probably need to drop this game against North. I’d be seriously p;$$ed if we did that tonight.

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    18 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

    Not quite Half Time in the Carlton VFL game, the Blues are 4 goals down. Harley Reid’s stats - 4 kicks, 0 handballs, 0 marks, 2 tackles.

    Might slide to our 3rd rounder

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    I'm in the multiple picks within top 10 category rather than the all-in for #1. Here's an experiment I did looking at drafts since 2012. Yes, lots of flaws in my methodology and on any given year your picks could bust, but here goes...

    Would you rather have pick #1 and #40 or #4 and #10? (3429 draft points)
    #1 picks

    Most of these are pretty good players - in particular Walsh and Rayner atm.

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    #40s

    Tom Stewart is the standout with Neale-Bullen the next best. Most have been delisted after less than 50 games or are only just starting their careers.

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    #4 and #10

    Imagine a team with Bontempelli, Oliver and Daicos kicking it to Coleman medallist Mckay or maybe Max King? LDU is having a breakout season this year and Tom Green is pretty handy. Phillipou is on track for a rising star nom this year.

    And to top it off, this team could be captained by Jimmy Toumpass /s

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    2 hours ago, Stiff Arm said:

    Freo drop to last, we get pick 1 and select Reid.

    Relax, we got this!

    Best pick we could possibly recieve is pick 4, no one is out tanking Mitchell, Simmo, Clarko.

    Those picks 1,2 and 3 are sorted after that it's anyone's guess GC, Freo, BWS all in contention.

    Look out for the Tiges as a late bolter for tanking material in the 2nd half of the year.

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    Just now, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

    Best pick we could possibly recieve is pick 4, no one is out tanking Mitchell, Simmo, Clarko.

    Those picks 1,2 and 3 are sorted after that it's anyone's guess GC, Freo, BWS all in contention.

    Look out for the Tiges as a late bolter for tanking material in the 2nd half of the year.

    Tigers first pick goes to GWS so they won't be tanking

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    1 minute ago, Big Col said:

    Tigers first pick goes to GWS so they won't be tanking

    Yeah your right. Forgot about that. How about their 2nd pick?

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    22 minutes ago, Big Col said:

    I'm in the multiple picks within top 10 category rather than the all-in for #1. Here's an experiment I did looking at drafts since 2012. Yes, lots of flaws in my methodology and on any given year your picks could bust, but here goes...

    Would you rather have pick #1 and #40 or #4 and #10? (3429 draft points)
    #1 picks

    Most of these are pretty good players - in particular Walsh and Rayner atm.

    image.png.e07f1f1c09eed578801b441a5d70adf6.png

    #40s

    Tom Stewart is the standout with Neale-Bullen the next best. Most have been delisted after less than 50 games or are only just starting their careers.

    image.png.35ebdddcb185e42949a222227e55f099.png

    #4 and #10

    Imagine a team with Bontempelli, Oliver and Daicos kicking it to Coleman medallist Mckay or maybe Max King? LDU is having a breakout season this year and Tom Green is pretty handy. Phillipou is on track for a rising star nom this year.

    And to top it off, this team could be captained by Jimmy Toumpass /s

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    4 and 10 all day. 

    Saw a list of top 1 -10 selections since 2000 v the 11-20 picks. 
     

    First list is a galaxy of club captains, Norm Smiths, AAs and champions. 
     

    Few gems in second list but would get pantsed everyday by the top tens. 
     

    JT well beyond Luke Moylan and Carl Morton

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    Harley Reid finished with a creditable 13 possessions (10k, 3h) but not as much as expected from someone with his reputation from the Under 18s.

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    24 minutes ago, Freddy Fuschia said:

    Harley Reid finished with a creditable 13 possessions (10k, 3h) but not as much as expected from someone with his reputation from the Under 18s.

    How much would you expect a young school kid playing against seasoned men, including many AFL regulars?

    Personally I'd say he did more than a creditable job

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    2 hours ago, Stiff Arm said:

    How much would you expect a young school kid playing against seasoned men, including many AFL regulars?

    Personally I'd say he did more than a creditable job

    At the same age and playing against Geelong for the Australian Academy two years ago, Nick Daicos collected a team-high 26 touches as well as laying four tackles. That’s more than creditable.

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    6 hours ago, Freddy Fuschia said:

    At the same age and playing against Geelong for the Australian Academy two years ago, Nick Daicos collected a team-high 26 touches as well as laying four tackles. That’s more than creditable.

    Was he playing off half back? Asking for a friend 😂.

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    6 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

    Was he playing off half back? Asking for a friend 😂.

    Not at all. And by the by, I read that in the first half at least, Reid played in the middle.

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    6 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

    Was he playing off half back? Asking for a friend 😂.

    26 kick outs. Geelong were very wasteful in front of goal

    Edited by John Demonic

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