I don't mind Cornes and his forthright opinions. His obvious Port bias does grate though.

Re JHF, i think he has been poorly advised. His people should have counselled him against moving after 1 year. Terrible look and won't endear you to the AFL public. That said fans shouldn't boo a youngster. More senior players, that should know better, maybe, but not a kid.

  On 17/04/2023 at 09:07, dazzledavey36 said:

I do wonder if his manager will take some responsibility in this. 

I have no idea who he's manager actually is, but they would have known the huge amount of backlash this would have caused and just advised him to stick it out for another year until his contract is finished.

The fact that opposition supporters are now booing him each game sums it all up really.

 

You’d like to think so but I can’t imagine a situation where a player manager is doing anything other than feathering their own nest.

 

  On 17/04/2023 at 06:11, adonski said:

Nothing major, just constantly knocking him for getting cheapies, his twitter is flooded with cheapshots like the below 

 

Forget Cheezels, Nick Daicos just does not like the Hard Ball and makes the 2 Dollar shop look like Millionares Row. Just watch the replays, Hangs back waiting for the cheap easy possesion . As Vanilla as they come. Good skills but all soooo soft!

Edited April 17, 20232 yr by picket fence

  On 17/04/2023 at 10:18, picket fence said:

Forget Cheezels, Nick Daicos just does not like the Hard Ball and makes the 2 Dollar shop look like Millionares Row. Just watch the replays, Hangs back waiting for the easy possesion . As Vanilla as they come. Good skills but all soooo soft!

Yes he is all shirk and no shiner (just made that up) But he can do it on average 35-40 times where no one is pressuring him. He does a lot of damage with the pill too. close to 900m gained on the weekend. 

You can go at him all you like, but the kid is getting it done. 

As for Kane - he is a one-eyed supporter, same as Bucks, Dwayno, Gerard and many other nufties in the press. He just goes more than usual. Dont mind him to be honest.

As for JHF, im not for the booing, but if he didnt see this coming, then sheesh. The AFL need to tighten this up. If you are dropping top 10 picks on a player then you have to get some security on your investment. Its a professional sport and if you are not prepared to leave your home state, then dont put your hand up to play football and go work at the local library. 

  On 17/04/2023 at 09:18, BDA said:

I don't mind Cornes and his forthright opinions. His obvious Port bias does grate though.

Re JHF, i think he has been poorly advised. His people should have counselled him against moving after 1 year. Terrible look and won't endear you to the AFL public. That said fans shouldn't boo a youngster. More senior players, that should know better, maybe, but not a kid.

The kid thing is interesting.  To me he is a kid, with all the naivety and lack of maturity and experience that goes along with that.  To my son (20) and many around his age, he is a spoiled brat who has been given an opportunity that so many kids that age would die for, yet he ran home to mummy.

Round 9 should be amusing when Norff play Port in Melbourne.

  On 17/04/2023 at 10:59, Deebauched said:

Round 9 should be amusing when Norff play Port in Melbourne.

It's in Tassie :(

Edited April 17, 20232 yr by adonski

  On 17/04/2023 at 10:59, Deebauched said:

Round 9 should be amusing when Norff play Port in Melbourne.

 

  On 17/04/2023 at 11:01, adonski said:

It's in Tassie :(

Yes, but it would be amusing if Port turned up to play in Melbourne.

  On 17/04/2023 at 10:59, Deebauched said:

Round 9 should be amusing when Norff play Port in Melbourne.

Yeah true.

Wanna go?

His proper focused takes on the game are actually good. 

But he is paid to make bold calls and to have them regurgitated all over his various SEN and Channel 9 gigs. So he days big things designed to be inflammatory. 

On JHF he’s blatantly hypocritical but I suspect he knows that and doesn’t care. 

  On 17/04/2023 at 09:00, monoccular said:

Kane who?  Anyone of any relevance?

Move on. 

 

  On 17/04/2023 at 09:04, dazzledavey36 said:

Well see ya then?

Didn't have to comment if you didn't like the thread.

Some great discussions on here already that's not Melbourne related for once.

I think Monoccular's point is that Kane is irrelevant.  I agree with him.

What do you learn from him about the game today other than who he likes and who he doesn't?  He prefers to play the man.

Edited April 17, 20232 yr by Palace Dees
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  On 17/04/2023 at 04:28, dazzledavey36 said:

This bloke is getting a lot of interesting feedback around the JHF commentary.

I think some of the past players that have entered the media are now getting better at parking their bias to their previous clubs aside and putting on their media hat. For an example, Garry Lyon was always good at this and even Matthew Lloyd who I've seen go hard at the Bombers last year as well.

In this instance I think Kane Cornes has failed badly with this one.

Can't be calling out the likes of Daicos, Walsh and Ginivan but then show a complete bias and protenction towards JHF and Port Adelaide football club in general. 

Why is JHF the subject of booing anyway.  A serious question coz I'm out of the loop and just wondering.

What's Hinkley so upset about?

 

Goodes booing was straight out racially based and he was hounded out thanks to weak AFL approach.  

  On 17/04/2023 at 12:35, layzie said:

Yeah true.

Wanna go?

Are you asking me out on a date?

  On 18/04/2023 at 00:08, Deebauched said:

Are you asking me out on a date?

Little from column A, little from column B. 

  On 17/04/2023 at 11:06, rjay said:

 

Yes, but it would be amusing if Port turned up to play in Melbourne.

Jeesuz.   i cant keep up with all this AFL fixture garbage.  Im o/seas. Blundstone are work boots arent they?  FFS.

Nothing we don't realise ... 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/apr/20/the-rise-of-loud-and-opinionated-afl-media-is-reflective-of-a-wider-malaise

 

  On 17/04/2023 at 10:29, Gawndy the Great said:

Yes he is all shirk and no shiner (just made that up) But he can do it on average 35-40 times where no one is pressuring him. He does a lot of damage with the pill too. close to 900m gained on the weekend. 

You can go at him all you like, but the kid is getting it done. 

As for Kane - he is a one-eyed supporter, same as Bucks, Dwayno, Gerard and many other nufties in the press. He just goes more than usual. Dont mind him to be honest.

As for JHF, im not for the booing, but if he didnt see this coming, then sheesh. The AFL need to tighten this up. If you are dropping top 10 picks on a player then you have to get some security on your investment. Its a professional sport and if you are not prepared to leave your home state, then dont put your hand up to play football and go work at the local library. 

I don’t think it was the state with him, it was he was at a club that he saw no future at.

  On 21/04/2023 at 03:59, Redleg said:

I don’t think it was the state with him, it was he was at a club that he saw no future at.

but Tom Scully ...

  On 21/04/2023 at 04:14, old55 said:

but Tom Scully ...

please don't trigger redleg by mentioning hwfua

  On 21/04/2023 at 00:12, DemonicFinalFantasy said:

Nothing we don't realise ... 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/apr/20/the-rise-of-loud-and-opinionated-afl-media-is-reflective-of-a-wider-malaise

 

Dane Swan mentioned on The Front Bar last night he was the easiest player to play against, love it!

  On 21/04/2023 at 04:14, old55 said:

but Tom Scully ...

Who?

Don’t recall JHF lying about leaving and bucketing teammates.

  On 17/04/2023 at 05:37, hemingway said:

Frankly the media is ruining the enjoyment of footy. 24/7 commentary, shock jocks like Cornes and others constructing headlines, criticism of players and teams at the drop of a hat, gross exaggeration (the point of fabrication) and often uninformed commentary. Mainly it’s about egos and justification of their pay cheques. It’s the bilge that gets said and written about every day, all week, and before and after a game. It has reached saturation point. Either folks accept it, absorb it like sponges, or reject it, turn off and try and enjoy the purity of the game. The game needs to retain some freshness, some surprises, where fans expectation and opinions are not unduly influenced by the constant clammer of the media bandwagon. It’s just getting so tiresome. 

Well said. And Cornes is a [censored].

  On 21/04/2023 at 00:12, DemonicFinalFantasy said:

Nothing we don't realise ... 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/apr/20/the-rise-of-loud-and-opinionated-afl-media-is-reflective-of-a-wider-malaise

 

This article sums it up perfectly....Cornes is no dummy and a good football analyst but he's taken the "hot take" US sports approach...it seems to be what the people want so who can blame him and Hutchy 

He looks for controversy to generate headlines and clicks.

  On 21/04/2023 at 00:12, DemonicFinalFantasy said:

Nothing we don't realise ... 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/apr/20/the-rise-of-loud-and-opinionated-afl-media-is-reflective-of-a-wider-malaise

 

This is a very good article actually. Hits the nail on the head. He says what gets the greatest reaction.

The pity is his analysis is actually quite good. I like buckleys analysis as well but he doesn’t go for the unnecessary swipes. Cornes should take a leaf out of his book.