39 minutes ago, bush demon said:

This is what I'm talking about!   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYCGws5V6E

Hope Sunday is reminiscent of the legendary Greg Parke's first game.

I'm hoping it's reminiscent of John Coleman's.

Be bold please. I hope they start him out of the goal square. Show him, the team and the competition you have confidence in him.  Starting him on the bench is weak sauce. 

54 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Goodwin on van Rooyed debut:

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"He's trained with these guys for a few years now, so he's got pretty good cohesion with this group already, and one thing you'll see from big Rooey is his ability to compete aerially," Goodwin said.

"He goes at the ball hard, he creates a contest and his follow-up at ground level is exceptional.

"We won't be asking him to do too much other than that for us."

Nice way to keep expectations of him realistic.

JvR effectively replaces Max in our fwd line so we won't need Grundy for that role.  TMac is there to help Grundy ruck at CB and fwd 50.   And to be our marking target when exiting our d50.  It helps that if Ladhams is out, Sydney have no experienced ruckman.

We will miss Max's towering presence but reckon we have his role covered.

I hope you're right Luci. I want TMac to be the 2nd ruck, and JVR play as a KPF.

But I disagree that we have Max's role covered. Grundy isn't capable of dropping into defence and taking contested marks. 

He just seems very "Schwartzy" the way he goes about things. 

He could be a huge building block for our forward line once he gets some games under his belt.

Very bloody exciting. Go Rooey!

Practising my Vaaaan Ruin!!!!! cry as we speak

I'd be very surprised if jvr isn't the second ruck, with so.ething like a 30-70 split with Grundy.

Tmac is all at sea in centre square ruck contests.

And when in ruck he is taken away from the very important role he plays as a forward, in particular the up and down the ground running he does to create contest - a role jvr is not suited to, nor has the tank for.

 

JVR took 11 marks last week running around as 2nd Ruck to Bell.   He is also a bit of a mobile midfielder in that role.  Whereas as  a KPF he only takes a few marks, but rarely allows defender to mark.

Good luck young man. The first of many games in the red and blue I hope. 

7 disposals, 2 marks, 1 behind.

He’ll be a handy workhorse forward or a good key defender in a couple of years but he’s a still a fair way off.

Schache would’ve played if he didn’t manage to get himself concussed in a very Schache way.

5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

7 disposals, 2 marks, 1 behind.

He’ll be a handy workhorse forward or a good key defender in a couple of years but he’s a still a fair way off.

Schache would’ve played if he didn’t manage to get himself concussed in a very Schache way.

The purveyor of optimism as always DS 🤣

Love him already, my dog is called “Roosey” named after Paul Roos, but we call him Rooey! Good luck on Sunday. 

32 minutes ago, mo64 said:

I hope you're right Luci. I want TMac to be the 2nd ruck, and JVR play as a KPF.

But I disagree that we have Max's role covered. Grundy isn't capable of dropping into defence and taking contested marks. 

Why play Tmac? unfortunately to slow the swans will run off his all day time to inject youth, we have a very good midfield but the problem is, most of them are one paced, Trac, Harmes, Viney even Sparrow are not quick players Clarry got some pace that is one reason we get caught out on the rebound, I understand the game plan is probably a work in progress and as the season goes on it might play out well.

As for JVR I hope they don't do one game in then out, let him go for a few games find his feet and go from there.

14 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

7 disposals, 2 marks, 1 behind.

He’ll be a handy workhorse forward or a good key defender in a couple of years but he’s a still a fair way off.

Schache would’ve played if he didn’t manage to get himself concussed in a very Schache way.

I'm not expecting a starring role but perhaps a bit more optimism is warranted.

This is a guy who averaged just over 2 goals a game for 16 games in the VFL last year, who's added a pre-season to that VFL year, and who opened this year's VFL season with 19 disposals, 11 marks and 1.1.

1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

I'm not expecting a starring role but perhaps a bit more optimism is warranted.

This is a guy who averaged just over 2 goals a game for 16 games in the VFL last year, who's added a pre-season to that VFL year, and who opened this year's VFL season with 19 disposals, 11 marks and 1.1.

Many of the disposals and marks came in the ruck in junk time. Maybe Goody’s keeping his cards close to his chest but he didn’t mention JVR in the ruck. That will add a few more touches to my prediction 

So we're going with 'Roo' as a nickname? Don't want to be the only one that actually pronounces his name properly. 

*Waits for someone to bash me over the head saying his nickname is indeed 'Roo'*

22 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

7 disposals, 2 marks, 1 behind.

He’ll be a handy workhorse forward or a good key defender in a couple of years but he’s a still a fair way off.

Schache would’ve played if he didn’t manage to get himself concussed in a very Schache way.

[censored] that, I want 22 disposals, 8 marks and 3 goals and Monday's headlines to read "Dee's smash hoodoo as the second coming lights up the G" 

good key defender in a few years, pfffft

10 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Why play Tmac? unfortunately to slow the swans will run off his all day time to inject youth, we have a very good midfield but the problem is, most of them are one paced, Trac, Harmes, Viney even Sparrow are not quick players Clarry got some pace that is one reason we get caught out on the rebound, I understand the game plan is probably a work in progress and as the season goes on it might play out well.

As for JVR I hope they don't do one game in then out, let him go for a few games find his feet and go from there.

I don’t agree with you on the speed of Tracc, Viney and particularly Sparrow. All are plenty fast enough it’s just a matter of getting them in positions to run and use the ball and cover off defensively.

I was in favour of 1 key forward when we had peak Gawn, peak LJ, peak T Mc and they could all play big minutes and I could live with Fritsch being outmaked at times.

Nowadays we have Grundy who isn’t at 100% match fitness, JVR on debut and an ageing BBB who needs manageing.

We have to play Tommy or go with a medium marking target like Melk or Joel Smith. 

If/when JVR settles in to afl level we can really consider a medium option, heck I’d even consider Smith this week. But it’s more like we give the kid a chance before we up the load he has to carry.

29 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

7 disposals, 2 marks, 1 behind.

He’ll be a handy workhorse forward or a good key defender in a couple of years but he’s a still a fair way off.

Schache would’ve played if he didn’t manage to get himself concussed in a very Schache way.

So, 6 goals..?

 

 

20 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

He’ll be a handy workhorse forward or a good key defender in a couple of years but he’s a still a fair way off.

 

 

A handy workhorse?

A good key defender?

Makes you wonder whether Taylor confused him with another player when we took him at 19 in the draft.

Makes you wonder if Goody is also confused, given going by these comments he seems to think he is ready NOW:

“We’ve known for a while we've got an exciting prospect at our fingertips. But you've got to make sure with guys like Jake that they're ready to play. AFL footy is a challenging game,” Goodwin says.

“He's worked incredibly hard at VFL level to develop his game over the last two years.

“You need to be ready, as a 19-to-20-year-old coming into AFL footy as a power forward, you need your game in really good shape and we feel like we've been patient with him and got him to a point where it's time to unleash him.”

Just checking DS that YOU haven't confused JVR with another player?

I mean, i assumed the stats you posted (7 disposals, 2 marks, 1 behind) were from the round one VFL game. But that can't be the case given this article notes 'the 19th selection in the 2021 National Draft impressed in his first outing for the year, taking 11 marks and kicking a goal from 19 disposals in last Saturday’s VFL opener against the Bulldogs.'

13 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Why play Tmac? unfortunately to slow the swans will run off his all day time to inject youth, we have a very good midfield but the problem is, most of them are one paced, Trac, Harmes, Viney even Sparrow are not quick players Clarry got some pace that is one reason we get caught out on the rebound, I understand the game plan is probably a work in progress and as the season goes on it might play out well.

As for JVR I hope they don't do one game in then out, let him go for a few games find his feet and go from there.

I tend to agree with you. Despite having a restricted preseason, BBB looks like he's flying whereas TMAC looks cumbersome. But the coaches are set on a 2 ruck strategy. With this being the case, I'd rather see TMac bash and crash as a 2nd ruckman for 15% of the time, rather than JVR. 

Grundy should play 85% gametime as the no.1 ruck, with no time resting up forward.

 

14 minutes ago, layzie said:

So we're going with 'Roo' as a nickname? Don't want to be the only one that actually pronounces his name properly. 

*Waits for someone to bash me over the head saying his nickname is indeed 'Roo'*

I'm all in on Van Ruin

33 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

7 disposals, 2 marks, 1 behind.

He’ll be a handy workhorse forward or a good key defender in a couple of years but he’s a still a fair way off.

Schache would’ve played if he didn’t manage to get himself concussed in a very Schache way.

Mick Malthouse leads the pack for curmudgeonly commentary. But, DS, you're closing fast. 

3 minutes ago, binman said:

I'm all in on Van Ruin

Van Ruiner. I'm trademarking that before the Herald Sun can use it as a headline. 

Looking forward to watching JVR in his debut. He should have been blooded in 1 or 2 games last season, better late than never.

 

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

Did the commentator refer to him as Van Rooney?? This is going to be tregove , tregrove on steroids

Edited March 30, 20232 yr by Bates Mate