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PREGAME: Rd 03 vs Sydney

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8 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

May to replace Tomlinson but Petty should be on notice for his poor start to the year.

JVR to replace Gawn.

Jordon to replace Harmes 

Hibberd to replace McVee if they want some seniority back in the side.

Laurie or Dunstan to replace Melksham as sub.

Next week and the Collingwood game are benchmark games IMO to see if we’re able to compete with the elite of the comp. I think we’ll learn a bit about our side next week, even with Gawn out.

 

 

 

It could be argued that Tomlinson is in better form than Petty

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    A few Thoughts and pre Swans selections

    1 That was the worst performance under Goody that I can recall for three quarters, and can I ask the question, Ive seen training which replecated into 2 impressive pre season hitouts and last weeks win. In training I have seen hardly any "Bombing into the forward line " But sheeeeit was it evident on Friday. Why was that??

    2 Question? Have some players got ahead of themselves?

    3 Viney, although underdone played like the Viney of old which means "The Rugby player in him came out" and he displayed little Leadership when Max went down

    4 T Mac in my book is COOKED, he is SLOW and has the Turning circle of 5 Titanics going around a solitary Ice cube in the Ocean, Just watch the replay, he just cannot turn. His place after two shocking games must be in Jeopardy

    5 Petty played his worst game since his first Debut game years ago. Pushed under it , outpositioned just look rank. He is better than that but Friday was a stinker.

    6 James Harmes, would be very nervous this week and could be replaced by someone like Dunstan or Jordan

    7 Fritsch played well for 3 BUT needs to create more pressure as a forward.

    8 Judd Mc Vie will be a player but got sucked into the vortex on occasions.

    9 We will need another pinch hit Ruckman and I think it might be either Shackey Attackey OR Joel Smith this week.

    10 Clarry is an out an out champion but was uncharaterisically rushed with some disposals. 37 Possesions at what 68 % I'll take it and this wasn't a usual game. but as I said he is a champion!

    11 Melsham did close to Zero when give n his chance, Time to blood Youth!

    Ins and outs

    I think the selectors will roll the dice to a degree and I would go with the following ins

    May, Pig, SHACKEY ATTACKEY ( If Fit) OR Joel Smith and or even lets Blood EITHER Matt JEFFERSON ( WHO CAN TAKE A GRAB) OR JVR and possibly Jordan and or Dunstan.

    Outs Max, T MAC, Harmes, Melksham and maybe Judd Mc Vie

    I have more to say but nothing more to add.

    Go Dees .P.F

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    30 minutes ago, rpfc said:

    Also, how is the crowd going to be this Sunday? I was there last year and it felt like an away game. 

    Over/Under on excuses at 5.5 @ $2.

    Thats money for jam.

    2.62 for Sydney seems very generous of the bookies 

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    2 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

    2.62 for Sydney seems very generous of the bookies 

    Extraordinarily generous, you would be loading up on that

    2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Fair point.
    But you can judge losing 8 of our last 9 MCG games to Sydney. Most of them when we’ve become a half competent football side.

    Don’t get me wrong, Sydney and Pies are two teams I have no confidence of beating no matter how good or bad either side is. I’m not confident at all that we can win and I have no idea how a 1-2 start to the season will go down for us. 
     

    But just as we can’t get overly excited that Essendon are 2-0 because they beat Hawks and CG, we also can’t applaud Sydney for beating the same two sides, coming off a GF appearance. 

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    40 minutes ago, rpfc said:

    Also, how is the crowd going to be this Sunday? I was there last year and it felt like an away game. 

     

    Sadly, agree.

    29 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    A few Thoughts and pre Swans selections

    1 That was the worst performance under Goody that I can recall for three quarters, and can I ask the question, Ive seen training which replecated into 2 impressive pre season hitouts and last weeks win. In training I have seen hardly any "Bombing into the forward line " But sheeeeit was it evident on Friday. Why was that??

    2 Question? Have some players got ahead of themselves?

    3 Viney, although underdone played like the Viney of old which means "The Rugby player in him came out" and he displayed little Leadership when Max went down

    4 T Mac in my book is COOKED, he is SLOW and has the Turning circle of 5 Titanics going around a solitary Ice cube in the Ocean, Just watch the replay, he just cannot turn. His place after two shocking games must be in Jeopardy

    5 Petty played his worst game since his first Debut game years ago. Pushed under it , outpositioned just look rank. He is better than that but Friday was a stinker.

    6 James Harmes, would be very nervous this week and could be replaced by someone like Dunstan or Jordan

    7 Fritsch played well for 3 BUT needs to create more pressure as a forward.

    8 Judd Mc Vie will be a player but got sucked into the vortex on occasions.

    9 We will need another pinch hit Ruckman and I think it might be either Shackey Attackey OR Joel Smith this week.

    10 Clarry is an out an out champion but was uncharaterisically rushed with some disposals. 37 Possesions at what 68 % I'll take it and this wasn't a usual game. but as I said he is a champion!

    11 Melsham did close to Zero when give n his chance, Time to blood Youth!

    Ins and outs

    I think the selectors will roll the dice to a degree and I would go with the following ins

    May, Pig, SHACKEY ATTACKEY ( If Fit) OR Joel Smith and or even lets Blood EITHER Matt JEFFERSON ( WHO CAN TAKE A GRAB) OR JVR and possibly Jordan and or Dunstan.

    Outs Max, T MAC, Harmes, Melksham and maybe Judd Mc Vie

    I have more to say but nothing more to add.

    Go Dees .P.F

    Jefferson is nowhere near AFL standard, YET. He will get there.

    Joel Smith is about 191 cms. Bit hard to ruck him.

    Schache if not concussed would be the one and JVR would not be out of place, he is a strong fearless competitor.

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    40 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    A few Thoughts and pre Swans selections

    1 That was the worst performance under Goody that I can recall for three quarters, and can I ask the question, Ive seen training which replecated into 2 impressive pre season hitouts and last weeks win. In training I have seen hardly any "Bombing into the forward line " But sheeeeit was it evident on Friday. Why was that??

    2 Question? Have some players got ahead of themselves?

    3 Viney, although underdone played like the Viney of old which means "The Rugby player in him came out" and he displayed little Leadership when Max went down

    4 T Mac in my book is COOKED, he is SLOW and has the Turning circle of 5 Titanics going around a solitary Ice cube in the Ocean, Just watch the replay, he just cannot turn. His place after two shocking games must be in Jeopardy

    5 Petty played his worst game since his first Debut game years ago. Pushed under it , outpositioned just look rank. He is better than that but Friday was a stinker.

    6 James Harmes, would be very nervous this week and could be replaced by someone like Dunstan or Jordan

    7 Fritsch played well for 3 BUT needs to create more pressure as a forward.

    8 Judd Mc Vie will be a player but got sucked into the vortex on occasions.

    9 We will need another pinch hit Ruckman and I think it might be either Shackey Attackey OR Joel Smith this week.

    10 Clarry is an out an out champion but was uncharaterisically rushed with some disposals. 37 Possesions at what 68 % I'll take it and this wasn't a usual game. but as I said he is a champion!

    11 Melsham did close to Zero when give n his chance, Time to blood Youth!

    Ins and outs

    I think the selectors will roll the dice to a degree and I would go with the following ins

    May, Pig, SHACKEY ATTACKEY ( If Fit) OR Joel Smith and or even lets Blood EITHER Matt JEFFERSON ( WHO CAN TAKE A GRAB) OR JVR and possibly Jordan and or Dunstan.

    Outs Max, T MAC, Harmes, Melksham and maybe Judd Mc Vie

    I have more to say but nothing more to add.

    Go Dees .P.F

    1. The titanic's turning circle was pretty good actually. It's the queen mary that had a problem in the department.
    2. it would be difficult to see a solitary ice cube from aboard the titanic - so moot point
    3. And it could be urged that if the titanic went around the ice-burg, it wouldn't have sunk.

    Edited by Queanbeyan Demon

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    If I was a betting person I would be loading up on Sydney at their odds and history of beating us. I would also take Luke Parker for best on ground. 

    1 hour ago, rpfc said:

    Also, how is the crowd going to be this Sunday? I was there last year and it felt like an away game. 

    Over/Under on excuses at 5.5 @ $2.

    Thats money for jam.

    I'll be at the Grand Prix which starts at 3.00pm, 20m before kick off.

     

    :(

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    Just now, jnrmac said:

    I'll be at the Grand Prix which starts at 3.00pm, 20m before kick off.

     

    :(

    1. ‘Grand Prix was on, bloody AFL trying to screw us’

    heath ledger joker GIF

    On 3/25/2023 at 7:56 PM, Superunknown said:

    Hibbo in

    the Boxing KangavanRoo straight in - smash and grab 

    JJ in

    Come on Goody, swing those changes for once

    1 hour ago, rpfc said:

    Also, how is the crowd going to be this Sunday? I was there last year and it felt like an away game. 

    Over/Under on excuses at 5.5 @ $2.

    Thats money for jam.

    I think you’d be looking at about 40,000. 70/30 split to us.

    Whilst we had more of the crowd in last year’s game, their supporters were definitely louder and more boisterous than ours as the game wore on. Then add in the fact that interstate supporters tend to over celebrate wins at the home of footy due to the rare opportunities of seeing their side playing there.

     

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    58 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    Hunt would have been handy this season.

    Definitely not the worst MFC player to have changed colours over recent years.

    I wonder if it was more us wanting him out or the other way around?

    1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    I think you’d be looking at about 40,000. 70/30 split to us.

    Whilst we had more of the crowd in last year’s game, their supporters were definitely louder and more boisterous than ours as the game wore on. Then add in the fact that interstate supporters tend to over celebrate wins at the home of footy due to the rare opportunities of seeing their side playing there.

     

    The Ponsford was 70/30 the other way. The was 15k+ staying around to cheer after the game. It was 50/50 if it was anything. 

    What are we going to do Dees fans? Are we turning up? Give me them excuses

    I love them, I gobble them up. Yum yum.

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    Is this the first time the Dees have been out of the top 4 for 2 years?

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    2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Definitely not the worst MFC player to have changed colours over recent years.

    I wonder if it was more us wanting him out or the other way around?

    He didn't want to leave but Goodwin wasn't a fan. They lowballed him and he got a 3 yr deal at WCE,

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    2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Is this the first time the Dees have been out of the top 4 for 2 years?

    Yep.

    Even after round 1 moderately sized wins over Freo in 2021 and the Dogs in 2022, we were still top 4 after round 1 and stayed there.


    2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Is this the first time the Dees have been out of the top 4 for 2 years?

    Do the research man and put up “Hey this is the first time we’ve been out of the top four for two years.”

     

    So this week the following streaks died:

    1. 47 consecutive rounds in the top 4 (but at least we have made it to 48 consecutive rounds in the top 8, thanks to West Coast)
    2. 32 consecutive games where we had led by at least 9 points at some stage of the match (last time we didn't lead in a game by at least 9 points was Round 19 2021 when we lost to the Dogs)
    3. 12 consecutive wins interstate (last loss was Round 10 2021 when we lost to Adelaide)
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    6 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Can’t believe we’re currently favourites to win this one.

    Agree.

    I suppose it's possible pundits think Sydney's opening fortnight has been soft and perhaps that losing to Brisbane is no major issue.

    Whilst both of those are true, all markers point to a Sydney win. They are a better side. They will be closer to their best 22. They have the wood over us. It's being played at the MCG, where we play them worse (I'd be more confident if this was at the SCG).

    IMO, a win this Sunday will be huge for our season.

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    1 hour ago, picket fence said:

    A few Thoughts and pre Swans selections

    1 That was the worst performance under Goody that I can recall for three quarters, and can I ask the question, Ive seen training which replecated into 2 impressive pre season hitouts and last weeks win. In training I have seen hardly any "Bombing into the forward line " But sheeeeit was it evident on Friday. Why was that??

    2 Question? Have some players got ahead of themselves?

    3 Viney, although underdone played like the Viney of old which means "The Rugby player in him came out" and he displayed little Leadership when Max went down

    4 T Mac in my book is COOKED, he is SLOW and has the Turning circle of 5 Titanics going around a solitary Ice cube in the Ocean, Just watch the replay, he just cannot turn. His place after two shocking games must be in Jeopardy

    5 Petty played his worst game since his first Debut game years ago. Pushed under it , outpositioned just look rank. He is better than that but Friday was a stinker.

    6 James Harmes, would be very nervous this week and could be replaced by someone like Dunstan or Jordan

    7 Fritsch played well for 3 BUT needs to create more pressure as a forward.

    8 Judd Mc Vie will be a player but got sucked into the vortex on occasions.

    9 We will need another pinch hit Ruckman and I think it might be either Shackey Attackey OR Joel Smith this week.

    10 Clarry is an out an out champion but was uncharaterisically rushed with some disposals. 37 Possesions at what 68 % I'll take it and this wasn't a usual game. but as I said he is a champion!

    11 Melsham did close to Zero when give n his chance, Time to blood Youth!

    Ins and outs

    I think the selectors will roll the dice to a degree and I would go with the following ins

    May, Pig, SHACKEY ATTACKEY ( If Fit) OR Joel Smith and or even lets Blood EITHER Matt JEFFERSON ( WHO CAN TAKE A GRAB) OR JVR and possibly Jordan and or Dunstan.

    Outs Max, T MAC, Harmes, Melksham and maybe Judd Mc Vie

    I have more to say but nothing more to add.

    Go Dees .P.F

    Point 1.   Pies in Rnd 23, 2017 was right up there given what was at stake.  But agree it was old Melb on Friday night.

    No.2  Who knows but i hope Goody is sitting them all down and eye balling every one of em.  Time to ask a few hard questions, especially from the leaders.  Yes even Maxy should be questioned as to what he feels is the lay of the land here.  Honesty pls fellas.

    No.3  JV obviously has many credits but hasn't fired a shot since the final round 2022.  Would have brought him back through the Mcgoos to make sure he was super match fit & ripe to go.

    No.4  T-Mac has lost a yard or so even in a straight line.  Reckon Goody will stay with him for this week but has to be last chance saloon (for some time) if he doesn't surely.

    5.  Petty as the main tall D is exposed when May isnt about.  We need to find at least one more key tall D and fast.

    6.  Keep in mind Harmes was one of the few players that finished 2022 strongly.  Having said that i agree he is running on thin ice and a big chance to lose his place this week.

    7.  Went ok given the limited opportunities and first game back.  Hopefully he starts bringing the heat as well in the coming games.

    8.  Happens with the youngsters.  He'll be fine imo

    9.  JVR was playing this role y'day in the Mcgoos.  Coincidence?  I think not.  Melk likely to make way.  Expecting the young fella to make his debut on Sunday.

    10.  He wasn't alone here.  So many were giving too many dinky short gives to no one in particular resulting in either turnovers or another stoppage.

    Clarry's at his best on the move and driving legs out of congestion.  If he was able to lower his vision coming inside (Tracc also) then steady and deliver a little more often, as he did occasionally in 2021, that would help his cause.  Also look to handball further or over the top to outside runners more often.

    Re ins/outs

    Jefferson is too early (for now)

    JVR should get the nod this week over Smith for Melk's spot.

    Jordan probably comes in for Harmes.  Dunstan unlucky.

    May for Tomo

    Piggy for McVee

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