On 21/03/2023 at 07:37, RedLegs23 said:

Man i really hope Viney gets through this without any further issues down the track.

Totally confident in our MD but yeah i dont know...

If Viney plays a full year like he did in 22', then i honestly cant see us losing this flag.

Whoa let’s not get to carried away, it’s round 2 this week 

  On 21/03/2023 at 07:45, Billy said:

Whoa let’s not get to carried away, it’s round 2 this week

That it's just gone round 1, i couldn't care less tbh. I've watched this mob long enough to know what i see. This year already feels different.

Add a fit Viney to that midfield from Saturday night & let your imagination run wild Billy.

Edited March 21, 20232 yr by RedLegs23

  On 21/03/2023 at 06:13, Roost it far said:

I'll respectfully disagree. Maybe plodder is the wrong term, he's a B grader with A grade smarts and endurance. Picking out one sentence of a three post, beautifully written diatribe is also quite unfair. 

To be fair, there are other adjectives that come to mind.

  On 21/03/2023 at 07:37, RedLegs23 said:

If Viney plays a full year like he did in 22', then i honestly cant see us losing this flag.

Ohh great. Do you even realise what you have just done? Why not just add that we will never lose again while you’re at it?

if even just one of our players from now until October wakes up with a runny nose, it’s going to be you to blame RL23

  On 20/03/2023 at 23:35, leave it to deever said:

I feel like I'm trapped in a Seinfeld thread.

I've just read the past 3 pages and have no idea whats going on or who is likely to be available to play on Friday night.

  On 21/03/2023 at 12:16, Demon Disciple said:

Why not just add that we will never lose again while you’re at it?

We will never lose again

  On 21/03/2023 at 06:32, Sir Why You Little said:

Melksham was a great sub. I would be doing the same again on Friday night. 
Hot humid night, Melksham comes on fresh in the 2nd Half. 
 

Yes that's true I guess I just want to give JVR a chance sooner than later!

Patience is a virtue!! 

  On 21/03/2023 at 15:45, 58er said:

Yes that's true I guess I just want to give JVR a chance sooner than later!

Patience is a virtue!! 

We need to win early games. Melksham is a beautiful kick 

Perfect for the Sub imo

  On 21/03/2023 at 05:10, Jaded No More said:

Woah woah woah, nobody is saying JVR can't be great or better than TMac.

But TMac plays a very specific role, a role that requires elite endurance. JVR is two years in, his endurance is not at TMac's level. In fact, even with 10 pre seasons under his belt he probably won't have TMac's endurance, which is at the top level of AFL players league wide. Very few players his size can cover the same KMs he covers in a game.
It's also why someone like ANB, who isn't the most polished perfect footballer going around, is a best 18 player for us. The ground he covers at top speed is elite and nobody on our list can play that role because nobody has the aerobic capacity to do so. 

Our entire forward set up fell apart like a cheap suit when TMac got injured last year. Not because he is the greatest marking and goal kicking forward going around, but because he is a very disciplined role player who rarely loses an aerial contest and can get to contest after contest. While I thought he was just ok on Saturday night, what he did is allow Ben Brown and Gawn to play deeper while he was able to neutralise the aerial contests on the wing. He also does some forward rucking, and he gives us the ability to cover a tall defender if one goes down mid game.

These are things that will take JVR a long time to perfect, no matter how good a player he can be at AFL level.
I think he will get games this year, as he should, and I think he has the potential to be the next Tmac (and hopefully better), but we are not a club that has to play the messiah card anymore. We have lots of good players, which means any youngsters coming through can come in with no pressure and just slowly learn their craft as needed.

 

 

If our forward line is so dependent on a super-fit T Mac then we are in serious trouble and we have failed to train for a suitable replacement

We shouldn't be so dependent and have effective alternatives to him or an alternative forward plan

  On 21/03/2023 at 16:38, Sir Why You Little said:

We need to win early games. Melksham is a beautiful kick 

Perfect for the Sub imo

So what I’m hearing is that JVR can’t run or kick……😜

  On 21/03/2023 at 20:34, Kent said:

If our forward line is so dependent on a super-fit T Mac then we are in serious trouble and we have failed to train for a suitable replacement

We shouldn't be so dependent and have effective alternatives to him or an alternative forwards

I think we have the backup this year. I think it’s a given that neither TMac or Brown will play every game. Wouldn’t it be nice to win back to back flags with JVR ripping it to shreds. 

  On 21/03/2023 at 20:57, Roost it far said:

I think we have the backup this year. I think it’s a given that neither TMac or Brown will play every game. Wouldn’t it be nice to win back to back flags with JVR ripping it to shreds. 

I agree with this. I even think the Weed would have done ok with the new system for season 23. So i could see JVR coming in and holding his own as well.

Would prefer to keep TM out there though.

  On 21/03/2023 at 08:30, RedLegs23 said:

That it's just gone round 1, i couldn't care less tbh. I've watched this mob long enough to know what i see. This year already feels different.

Add a fit Viney to that midfield from Saturday night & let your imagination run wild Billy.

Agreed I have the same feeling I did in 2021 after we ran over the Dogs and Lions in successive weeks. Last year was more hope than belief, albeit hope infused with the belief from 2021 but the team look unbelievable this year. A long way to go but I'll be shattered if we let it slip this year.

  On 21/03/2023 at 12:38, chookrat said:

I've just read the past 3 pages and have no idea whats going on or who is likely to be available to play on Friday night.

Everyone except Kozzie 🤣

  On 21/03/2023 at 14:50, RedLegs23 said:

We will never lose again

Maybe. Depends if @AzzKikA gets a life and stops attending games or not…

  On 21/03/2023 at 06:13, Roost it far said:

I'll respectfully disagree. Maybe plodder is the wrong term, he's a B grader with A grade smarts and endurance. Picking out one sentence of a three post, beautifully written diatribe is also quite unfair. 

‘RESPECTFULLY, he is a PLODDER’

  On 22/03/2023 at 04:09, Dr. Gonzo said:

Agreed I have the same feeling I did in 2021 after we ran over the Dogs and Lions in successive weeks. Last year was more hope than belief, albeit hope infused with the belief from 2021 but the team look unbelievable this year. A long way to go but I'll be shattered if we let it slip this year.

Agreed, this year we truly seem unbelievable.  Like we've somehow surpassed our 2021 selves.  I'm trying to be cool about it... It would truly feel like a failure if we didn't at least get to the GF this year.

  On 22/03/2023 at 07:45, DeelightfulPlay said:

Agreed, this year we truly seem unbelievable.  Like we've somehow surpassed our 2021 selves.  I'm trying to be cool about it... It would truly feel like a failure if we didn't at least get to the GF this year.

Yep, and a Dees verses Pies Grand Final would be just perfect.

  On 22/03/2023 at 07:54, Neil Crompton said:

Yep, and a Dees verses Pies Grand Final would be just perfect.

Winning or losing a flag against Collingwood are the ultimate footy extremes for me. Wouldn’t get any higher or lower than that. 
 

21’ Grand Final was excruciating waiting all day for it, but I don’t hate the dogs like I hate Collingwood. The tension of a dees/pies Granny would be a lot. 

  On 22/03/2023 at 08:02, BoBo said:

Winning or losing a flag against Collingwood are the ultimate footy extremes for me. Wouldn’t get any higher or lower than that. 
 

21’ Grand Final was excruciating waiting all day for it, but I don’t hate the dogs like I hate Collingwood. The tension of a dees/pies Granny would be a lot. 

I don't think I'd ever emotionally recover from losing to the Pies in the Granny with this team!

  On 22/03/2023 at 06:39, rpfc said:

Maybe. Depends if @AzzKikA gets a life and stops attending games or not…

  On 20/03/2023 at 08:07, Vipercrunch said:

Salem and Fritta might be fit but because of the long lay off they might need to get match fit either through more match sim at training or game time at Casey.  Hopefully Goodwin is in an info giving mood at the mid week presser.  Or the weekly injury video from Dr Laura(?).

We certainly do not need misinformation. Bending the truth causes recurrences, so suspect information must not be tolerated. 

  On 21/03/2023 at 20:50, Roost it far said:

So what I’m hearing is that JVR can’t run or kick……😜

I agree. I'd reckon the Melk would be an excellent choice for the strategic 'Super-sub' based on his skills, adaptability and impacts (when needed most). 

  On 22/03/2023 at 08:09, DeelightfulPlay said:

I don't think I'd ever emotionally recover from losing to the Pies in the Granny with this team!

Yup. I think it would fundamentally change me as a person. Have to quit my job, move to India for 6 months, go on a spiritual journey to find meaning in life again haha

Edited March 22, 20232 yr by BoBo

  On 21/03/2023 at 20:50, Roost it far said:

So what I’m hearing is that JVR can’t run or kick……😜

Yep, he can’t bowl, he can’t throw…