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7 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

So Sydney are doing better than us because two of their three imports couldn't get a game for us? Grass is always greener. 

Didn't say that at all mate lol. Just said that Sydney are cleaning up well in filling in the needs that they have identified immediately.

So what does that make McAdam and Fullerton to us then? One didn't even play a game this year and another was actually left out by Adelaide and had half a year in the reserves (even though I think he'll be an okay pick up).

I think our focus will be moving up the draft order during the trade period but we still have holes in our side that still needs addressing. 

I like Sydney's ability to get on the front foot straight away and get the players they want and could come in immediately and have an instant impact.

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18 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

horse is gonna be hoarse from all the yelling he does at poor old dean cox when grundy is standing in the middle of the scg not pushing forward nor back

Grundy will be doing a light jog, sometimes moving into a light sprint back and forth, miss reading the flight of the ball. 

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3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Didn't say that at all mate lol. Just said that Sydney are cleaning up well in filling in the needs that they have identified immediately.

So what does that make McAdam and Fullerton to us then? One didn't even play a game this year and another was actually left out by Adelaide and had half a year in the reserves (even though I think he'll be an okay pick up).

I think our focus will be moving up the draft order during the trade period but we still have holes in our side that still needs addressing. 

I like Sydney's ability to get on the front foot straight away and get the players they want and could come in immediately and have an instant impact.

You compared them to us with Fullerton, hence the grass is greener. I wouldn't say we're cleaning up with Fullerton and McAdams and I wouldn't say Sydney are cleaning up either. Quantity doesn't better quality. 

But I agree with your sentiment RE filling needs in our list via the draft with elite talent, rather than via fringe players we're deficit in from other clubs.

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21 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

Adams has a history of hammies and is ageing. He fits the Swans need for an inside mid though. Could go either way. 

Adams was the biggest butcher around which is why Fly moved him to half forward -where he was very good. Be interesting to see if the Swans even let him play predominantly midfield and if his body holds up.

Grundy will be painfully good for them tho. He thrives on the responsibility of being the number 1 ruck. Longmire will scream at his defensive efforts but he might be motivated to improve them.

And I like JJ and Hamling as free agents. Just not sure what they’ve paid JJ but they seem to have cap space. Hamling a risk worth taking, I’d have him for Tomlinson for sure, but he’s not the ideal fit for what we need from a 3rd tall, but a nice fit next to Rampe and McCartin.

I’d say smart shopping for a youngish side needing to beef up.

McAdam could work out well for us. Fullarton is an ok low cost flier. Would like to see us do something for pace and/or a versatile tall before the draft being our main focus. 

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6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Didn't say that at all mate lol. Just said that Sydney are cleaning up well in filling in the needs that they have identified immediately.

So what does that make McAdam and Fullerton to us then? One didn't even play a game this year and another was actually left out by Adelaide and had half a year in the reserves (even though I think he'll be an okay pick up).

I think our focus will be moving up the draft order during the trade period but we still have holes in our side that still needs addressing. 

I like Sydney's ability to get on the front foot straight away and get the players they want and could come in immediately and have an instant impact.

No names can become names. Big names can be over rated. 
 

2022 MFC drafts = Grundy and Hunter. A premiership captain and a multiple AA. 
 

Apologise to Hunter, he was good this year. Fullerton will provide more forward craft. 

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2 hours ago, Abyssal said:

I’d like to see Clayton Oliver have a change of roles which allows him to be released into more space. 
IMO he would be even more damaging and it should allow him to use the ball better as well.

I wondered how he would have gone on the wing when Gus went down. a bit out there. 

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3 hours ago, Abyssal said:

I’d like to see Clayton Oliver have a change of roles which allows him to be released into more space. 
IMO he would be even more damaging and it should allow him to use the ball better as well.

Then has to work on his decision making then....

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34 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Then has to work on his decision making then....

One might beget the other....

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On 10/6/2023 at 2:52 PM, Redleg said:

Think we really need to work on retiring BBB, unless his knee is magically healed and Tom Mac who at best will be at Casey all year, in a real sour end to his AFL career.

It would be more respectful to retire them gracefully and go out as senior players with an agreement on contract payout.

 

I hear you, but we need some insurance against injury. I suspect if both are keen to go around again, then we will be interested to let them do so. Finishing a career at Casey is not great, but may be better than the alternative (ie missing them when some younsters get injured or lose form).

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5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

The only player that will make Sydney significantly better is Grundy. The rest are average players who won’t improve them.

I rate Hickey’s value to the Swans game than what Grundy will bring. Hickey is tough, strong and works his [censored] off. Grundy not so much. 

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Just now, Demonsterative said:

I rate Hickey’s value to the Swans game than what Grundy will bring. Hickey is tough, strong and works his [censored] off. Grundy not so much. 

Yes but Hickey is done so the Swans desperately need a quality ruck. It’s why I’m annoyed they are low balling us. 

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Just now, Jaded No More said:

Yes but Hickey is done so the Swans desperately need a quality ruck. It’s why I’m annoyed they are low balling us. 

Hopefully we find out early tomorrow If we are low balled. If it looks that way, I’m sure the club has a plan to whatever pick we get. The MFC focuses on the whole trade period/package, rather than an individual swap. 

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10 hours ago, DubDee said:

we have a better and deeper midfield than the Lions so if he wants game time he obviously won’t go to us 

Neale, Dunkley, McClaggage, Bailey, Ashcroft (soon to be Ashcroft x 2), Lyons, Zorko, Fletcher, Dev Robertson, Berry. Throw in AhChee and occasionally Cam Raynor.

I'd say that's a pretty good midfield, both quality and depth

Players from non Vic clubs often go unheralded by the media

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19 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

Neale, Dunkley, McClaggage, Bailey, Ashcroft (soon to be Ashcroft x 2), Lyons, Zorko, Fletcher, Dev Robertson, Berry. Throw in AhChee and occasionally Cam Raynor.

I'd say that's a pretty good midfield, both quality and depth

Players from non Vic clubs often go unheralded by the media

but that's exactly why mathieson doesn't make it into their side, and why he wouldn't make it into ours

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34 minutes ago, brendan said:

Pies fans wanting pick 23 for adams, if that’s the market then 11 for Grundy thanks 

Sydney better get creative, i really hope we don't cave in with a player who still has 4 years to run on a contract.

I can't see how it's not pick 11 for a KPP they desperately need.

Dees hold all the cards in this case.

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8 hours ago, binman said:

Bollocks.

In fact I would argue we were over invested in pure mids and need a better balance - more like the lions and pies with more outside distributors.

So no issue losing JJ. 

I agree we have the better midfield, but I think what gets lost in the argument is the depth. We've lost JJ, potentially Harmes and Dunstan has retired. Yes, they're depth mids, but they're gone and we're not too many injuries away from a thin midfield. I'd certainly like a more balanced midfield and hope our drafting addresses both balance and depth - McKercher or Duursma please

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25 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

I agree we have the better midfield, but I think what gets lost in the argument is the depth. We've lost JJ, potentially Harmes and Dunstan has retired. Yes, they're depth mids, but they're gone and we're not too many injuries away from a thin midfield. I'd certainly like a more balanced midfield and hope our drafting addresses both balance and depth - McKercher or Duursma please

Agreed. Also want more mid time for Riv and Woey. And is it too much to ask that Kossie spend more time in the middle than one centre bounce per game?

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