On 12/28/2022 at 1:41 AM, The end is nigh said:

Jackson was very will he won’t he. The words out of the club seemed fashioned so that they were hopeful more than anything. Jackson will be remembered by dees fans as a premiership player but a decade from now he will be known only as a freo player.

I never want kossie to be anything other than ours. I’d be gutted to see him tear it up for another club. He’s a champ and I hope he gets some good security in his next contract  reflecting his value.  In the Jason Taylor interviews he seemed supremely confident of pickets signature coming. 

Would be nice to get it done early enough. I still remember the media beating up Cyril being worth a million in his hey day before he signed. Best to get ahead of that circus 
 

Jacko Will only be remembered a Freo star as long as he plays like one and is in their inaugural premiership.

OTHER wise his cameo at the Dees and GF relevance will be part of our folklore and his career. 

10 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

We didn't want Jackson as soon as we knew we were going to get Grundy

What?

11 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

We didn't want Jackson as soon as we knew we were going to get Grundy it was a done deal halfway through the year.

Find that hard to believe.

Grundy was still indicating he wanted to stay.  I dont think MFC had even given him their presentation at that stage. He got the flick from the pies and the meeting with our people sealed it. His 1st preference if not a pie appears to have been mfc.

25 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

Find that hard to believe.

Grundy was still indicating he wanted to stay.  I dont think MFC had even given him their presentation at that stage. He got the flick from the pies and the meeting with our people sealed it. His 1st preference if not a pie appears to have been mfc.

 

2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

What?

Not true. The Club wanted to keep LJ, right up to the day he left.

Our President at The B&F made that quite clear 

But a Plan B was put in place a long way out. 

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

 

Not true. The Club wanted to keep LJ, right up to the day he left.

Our President at The B&F made that quite clear 

But a Plan B was put in place a long way out. 

That might be true, but I think they “knew” well before he left that he was leaving.

31 minutes ago, Redleg said:

That might be true, but I think they “knew” well before he left that he was leaving.

Probably yes, but until he actually left, they did not want him to go. That i was told.
Huge Talent left the Club

On 12/28/2022 at 10:28 AM, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Chandler is no Kozzie, but he's the closest thing we have to a replacement.  I also get the impression he is strongly invested in the MFC which is a good thing.  Think we need to give him some serious time in the seniors this year for several reasons:

1. He's good enough

2.  As backup for Kozzie leaving

3.  As leverage with Kozzie (as good as he might be, I don't think it would be great if his managers think they have the MFC over a barrel)

4.  Having Chandler in the side as well could actually take some of the heat off Kozzie at times and benifit both the individuals and the team

If Kozzie plays more midfield time as mooted, which is probably the next step in his evolution, it should give us a bit more oppertunity to play both players more often.

Chandler has yet to prove he is good enough at AFL level. 

10 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

Chandler has yet to prove he is good enough at AFL level. 

True. I dont know why anyone can base a strategy on someone who has yet to play a solid game in the seniors.

1 hour ago, Bay Riffin said:

Chandler has yet to prove he is good enough at AFL level. 

True, but he been given bugger all chance to prove himself in the past two seasons. 

Edited December 29, 20222 yr by John Crow Batty

52 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

True. I dont know why anyone can base a strategy on someone who has yet to play a solid game in the seniors.

yep. He certainly has earned his chance and was knocking the door down this year but its a big step up. I just dont quite see the X factor that maybe others do. 

2 hours ago, Bay Riffin said:

yep. He certainly has earned his chance and was knocking the door down this year but its a big step up. I just dont quite see the X factor that maybe others do. 

Ray, agree with your main points.  I was meaning that he's good enough to be given a decient oppertunity at senior level to establish if he can make that step up.

I'm not sure he has massive X factor like Kozzie and he definitely wouldn't be like for like in that sense, but I'm not sure he needs huge X factor to be a valuable contributor to the team.

Edited December 29, 20222 yr by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

A lot of people aren’t “phased”.

But are they FAZED?

On 12/29/2022 at 3:50 PM, John Crow Batty said:

True, but he been given bugger all chance to prove himself in the past two seasons. 

But when he has, he ain't done that much to help his cause. I like the lad, I want him to succeed but he's yet to prove himself at senior level.

• QD's been on a lovely break since 23 Dec. Very happy
• Comes onto Demonland to ensure he hasn't missed anything important
• Reads this thread
• Checks the bathroom cabinet for razorblades
• Remembers he bought an electric razor last year around this time.

On 12/28/2022 at 2:11 AM, The end is nigh said:

Jackson was very will he won’t he. The words out of the club seemed fashioned so that they were hopeful more than anything. Jackson will be remembered by dees fans as a premiership player but a decade from now he will be known only as a freo player.

I never want kossie to be anything other than ours. I’d be gutted to see him tear it up for another club. He’s a champ and I hope he gets some good security in his next contract  reflecting his value.  In the Jason Taylor interviews he seemed supremely confident of pickets signature coming. 

Would be nice to get it done early enough. I still remember the media beating up Cyril being worth a million in his hey day before he signed. Best to get ahead of that circus 
 

JT doesn't casually make strong statements like this one - he's too close to the pulse of the matter, as well. Kozzie will stay a Demon, thank heavens. He has fully earned everyone's respect and admiration - with that comes some dependency on him from the whole team - a group of blokes who have opened the doors to his incredible skillset and his development as a team player. 

23 hours ago, Fanatique Demon said:

A lot of people aren’t “phased”.

But are they FAZED?

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fazed: (verb) disturb the composure of.

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7 hours ago, Monbon said:

But when he has, he ain't done that much to help his cause. I like the lad, I want him to succeed but he's yet to prove himself at senior level.

On the park 3 times last season mostly during junk time for an average of 17 minutes each game. In Perth trying to to do the team thing busted his guts out tackling a WC player and earned two weeks rest. 

Edited December 30, 20222 yr by John Crow Batty

21 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Sounds like you are the one who wants to go to SA Forkem!! In fact if you don't like the following why stay here and barrack for the Dees??

1. Premiership 'player in 21 and still closer than Port for flag starting in 2023.

2. Love MFC, Coaches and all the guys here are great teammates on and off the field.

3. Get  to  play in blockbusters at the G  In at least 6/8 games per year. 

4. Am making a very good living at MFC.

Tell me Kossie doesn't like the above. 4 points. 

Edited December 31, 20222 yr by george_on_the_outer

15 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Hmmnn.

1. Ya reckon Port aren't going to offer a big long term contract to a 21yr old premiership player who has kicked 40 goals in his last 2 seasons.

2. I don't know who he supported as a kid but he's from Sth Australia and Uncle Byron won a flag at Port so I'm marking him down as a Port supporter.

3. Recently lost his mum

And as I consider Melbourne an absolute sheet hole with a crooked premier who's more than happy to baton charge, pepper spray and rubber bullet the citizens, I'd be outta there even quicker for a better work/life balance.
The only thing that would be tough IMO is jumping on a plane most weekends to play.
But he could offset that by not having to travel to Casey for training and Ports superior facilities.

So we agree, most would do the same.

1. Agree

2.. I thought he was from country WA  and might not be a Port supporter, though that is a minor factor.

3. Was she living in SA and have family asked him to return there permanently for some reason.

Not saying he won’t leave, but factors may be slightly different to LJ situation.

8 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

 busted his guts out tackling a WC player and earned two weeks rest. 

Pity he wasn’t a Carlton Captain, or a name player, he would have gotten off.

Both he and ANB have been treated very differently to other AFL players by the Tribunal.

20 minutes ago, Redleg said:

1. Agree

2.. I thought he was from country WA  and might not be a Port supporter, though that is a minor factor.

3. Was she living in SA and have family asked him to return there permanently for some reason.

Not saying he won’t leave, but factors may be slightly different to LJ situation.

From what I understand, Koz moved from WA to SA during his teen years and lived with family there which he is still very close with. I don't think the chances of his mum asking him to move back are very high, but there's always the scenario that losing his mum has made him consider being closer to family again. On top of that, I believe his dad lives in SA these days.

10 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

On the park 3 times last season mostly during junk time for an average of 17 minutes each game. In Perth trying to to do the team thing busted his guts out tackling a WC player and earned two weeks rest. 

Fair enough...Like I say, I'd love him to do well.

21 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

Port traded in all of their chips to get JHF. They have no trade capital in R1 this year as of right now. They would need to move talent to get into Round 1 this year and they don’t have too many players they can afford to let go that would get them that. 
 

That’s if Kozzy decides to go.

Edited December 31, 20222 yr by george_on_the_outer

2 hours ago, Monbon said:

Seems like only some 'Political comments' get banned on this site.

The really laughable ones are let through.

so, if kozzy hasn't signed with 6 games left in the season.....

and keeping in mind the jackson saga....

do we keep playing him or promote someone else?