4 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

That is a really salient point, that emotional posters either don't know, or choose to forget.

The injury list is THE biggest predictor of premiership success.

I also hope that all your follow up posts also take this into account... because all your previous certainly don't.

But also the fact we took our chance in 2021 relieves the pressure moving forward.

I just hope we can keep the rest of the list fit and keep our top 4 spot.

If we do, we're still a huge chance this year. Just need to start converting our chances in front of goal.

We’ve got 2 injured players, one will be back in a month. It’s far from panic stations. We’re 4 kicks from having 3 more wins. Let’s just beat the Saints and go from there 

1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

We’ve got 2 injured players, one will be back in a month. It’s far from panic stations. We’re 4 kicks from having 3 more wins. Let’s just beat the Saints and go from there 

Which one ? Asking for a friend 

11 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

We’ve got 2 injured players, one will be back in a month. It’s far from panic stations. We’re 4 kicks from having 3 more wins. Let’s just beat the Saints and go from there 

Still the best team we have fielded in my lifetime, and people still get upset, looking purely at the W/L column. It's far more nuanced than that. We're not far off it at all.

Imagined if we weren't conditioned to sensationalist media... 🤷‍♂️

Injuries are injuries they are part and parcel of the game, all i want from the lads is to be composed kicking into the forward line and kicking for goal.

Create our own luck and good fortune.

Positivity is what we all require.

Woey in lets get behind the lad, injuries create opportunity.

Lets be brave.

Get amongst it Dees.

35 minutes ago, Billy said:

He’ll be cherry ripe for finals, shame we won’t be in them

We need to go 3-5 to play finals and hope Essendon and Fremantle fall off the cliff.

5 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We need to go 3-5 to play finals and hope Essendon and Fremantle fall off the cliff.

We will most likely 9-9 in 3 week and outside the 8, repeat of 2017 and 2020 coming up

Edited July 6, 20231 yr by Garbo

17 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Which one ? Asking for a friend 

Very funny

4 minutes ago, Garbo said:

We will most likely 9-9 in 3 week and outside the 8

That's the spirit!

I'm surprised the loss of Fritta hasn't got more concern around here.     Clarry's absence has been covered remarkably by Trac and JV this last month.  But both are elite at what they do so it's not hugely surprising. 

Little concerned who exactly is going to take marks inside our forward 50 and have those shots at goal.  After Fritta (30), out next best is Pickett (22) then it drops off.   This isn't simply about a ball movement/game plan issue.   The next player in is nowhere near the calibre of AA that Fritta is.  Imo really need Grundy or Gawn to snag a few this week.  The back up Saints ruckman from hit outs is Mitch Owens. Yes, that Mitch Owens.

If you are paying $1.4 mln for 2 guys against a first year midget they better win you a game like this or at least dominate on the scoreboard. 

Edited July 6, 20231 yr by Jjrogan

6 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

I'm surprised the loss of Fritta hasn't got more concern around here.     Clarry's absence has been covered remarkably by Trac and JV this last month.  But both are elite at what they do so it's not hugely surprising. 

Little concerned who exactly is going to take marks inside our forward 50 and have those shots at goal.  After Fritta (30), out next best is Pickett (22) then it drops off.   This isn't simply about a ball movement/game plan issue.   The next player in is nowhere near the calibre of AA that Fritta is.  Imo really need Grundy or Gawn to snag a few this week.  The back up Saints ruckman from hit outs is Mitch Owens. Yes, that Mitch Owens.

If you are paying $1.4 mln for 2 guys against a first year midget they better win you a game like this or at least dominate on the scoreboard. 

Our forward half has been unworkable, just maybe his absence creates some out of the box thinking and we improve.

Edited July 6, 20231 yr by Roost it far

As a football club these last 4 years we have a history of playing players when injured. Goodwin has even spoken about this as well. The idea that the club made the best decision possible for the health of Oliver by letting him play a quarter after pulling it and by getting him running so soon after has no doubt hindered his recovery as much as getting an infection did.

I don't care if the infection did a number on his recovery, that's bad luck. I don't care if he's arguing with a physio, that's passion. I don't care if he heals slower than the expected time frame, it is what it is. 

I do care that the club did something I've never seen other professional organisations across all codes do when a hamstring injury occurs. The club needs to answer that.

oh poop 💩

3 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Oh good.

No Clarry for another month and no Fritsch until finals.

I’M DOING DRY JULY, CLAYTON!

Feels like a trip to Germany and some cow blood injections not too far away. 

3 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

The stats tell a different story. We should have beaten Geelong, GWS and Freo. The culprit was kicking accuracy. Trac is usually the player with the highest scoring involvements and he is still playing. 
 

We have Contested footy in all three of those games (I think) and outside the brain fart in the 4th at Kardinia we were dominant.
 

IMO the issue is our forward mix and confidence in set shot kicking. Gawn at FF is not working and the sooner the coaching staff realise this and change it, the better. We have to be more mobile and something like BB at FF, JVR, Smith,  Melksham, Kozzy and Chin are setup to do that. The solution however doesn’t stop there, the delivery is important and we have to honour short kicks into the 30-40m zone.

Completely agree. Kicking accuracy inside 50 to a target and towards goal has been the whole issue.

Fix that and we enter 2021 finals form. 

2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Our forward half has been unworkable, just maybe his absence creates some out of the box thinking and we improve.

The Hail Mary of Hail Mary's....     no niggle towards you...but If thats what the brains trust hopes....oi vey

4 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

The Hail Mary of Hail Mary's....     no niggle towards you...but If thats what the brains trust hopes....oi vey

It’s not the brains trust it’s the reality. It appears we’re going small this week. I don’t mind it, it’s as much the kick into the forwards as it is the forwards who need to improve. Yes I’d of liked JVR in the side but you can’t argue with his management this season. Couple of weeks to freshen up playing VFL, get Melk his 100 and hopefully Brown finds some form. If he can become a 2-4 goal a game player we’ll be a lot better off.

Unfortunately with the Oliver news, it is what it is. Need to move forward now and continue to find ways to think our midfield.

I think the positive is that our midfield has actually held up better then I thought. We're still beating teams in contested possessions and centre clearences so not like our strength around the ball has dropped.

Still think we can be better by adding Pickett in there and giving more midfield opportunities to say Salem or Rivers.

4 hours ago, Billy said:

He’ll be cherry ripe for finals, shame we won’t be in them

No he wont!! Underdone to buggery and will lack fitness  and confidence. NOT worth the risk , coz we aint going to go anywhere near close and IMV are stuffed this year . Put in cotton wool till next year

Edited July 6, 20231 yr by picket fence

1 hour ago, ANG13 said:

Feels like a trip to Germany and some cow blood injections not too far away. 

Why not, the club has lots of cash after the trip to Alice.

Edited July 6, 20231 yr by YesitwasaWin4theAges

16 minutes ago, picket fence said:

No he wont!! Underdone to buggery and will lack fitness  and confidence. NOT worth the risk , coz we aint going to go anywhere near close and IMV are stuffed this year . Put in cotton wool till next year

🤦‍♂️

3 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

🤦‍♂️

I was nearly believing picket.

Backline, is still strong, and we can play desperate, effort making footy.  

Finals style plan.

Edited July 6, 20231 yr by kev martin

This injury economics is making us brokanomics.

Seems like we’re not allowed to talk about this, but what is going on?

The way that our Best  & most important player has been looked after & treated has been diabolical 

First nicks his hamstring, then is seen running a day later

Then hospitalised for 5 days with a infected toe & releasing himself 

Then the online trolling about drug taking, with the Coach taking waaay to long to back his player & shut down the rumours 

Public arguments  with the fitness staff 

Promises of playing every week since the Kings birthday & now talk about him missing a least another  month & now talking about his hamstring tendon

This feels like a very public soap opera unfolding  in front of our eyes

I feel so sorry for Clarry the way he’s been treated & how unprofessional the football club has been  

Over 10 weeks out for gods sake