Adam The God 30,731 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said: That is a really salient point, that emotional posters either don't know, or choose to forget. The injury list is THE biggest predictor of premiership success. I also hope that all your follow up posts also take this into account... because all your previous certainly don't. But also the fact we took our chance in 2021 relieves the pressure moving forward. I just hope we can keep the rest of the list fit and keep our top 4 spot. If we do, we're still a huge chance this year. Just need to start converting our chances in front of goal. 3 Quote
Roost it far 10,137 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 We’ve got 2 injured players, one will be back in a month. It’s far from panic stations. We’re 4 kicks from having 3 more wins. Let’s just beat the Saints and go from there 8 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Roost it far said: We’ve got 2 injured players, one will be back in a month. It’s far from panic stations. We’re 4 kicks from having 3 more wins. Let’s just beat the Saints and go from there Which one ? Asking for a friend Quote
Engorged Onion 10,226 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, Roost it far said: We’ve got 2 injured players, one will be back in a month. It’s far from panic stations. We’re 4 kicks from having 3 more wins. Let’s just beat the Saints and go from there Still the best team we have fielded in my lifetime, and people still get upset, looking purely at the W/L column. It's far more nuanced than that. We're not far off it at all. Imagined if we weren't conditioned to sensationalist media... 🤷♂️ 6 1 Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,824 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 Injuries are injuries they are part and parcel of the game, all i want from the lads is to be composed kicking into the forward line and kicking for goal. Create our own luck and good fortune. Positivity is what we all require. Woey in lets get behind the lad, injuries create opportunity. Lets be brave. Get amongst it Dees. 3 1 Quote
Bring-Back-Powell 15,549 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 35 minutes ago, Billy said: He’ll be cherry ripe for finals, shame we won’t be in them We need to go 3-5 to play finals and hope Essendon and Fremantle fall off the cliff. 1 Quote
Garbo 1,567 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said: We need to go 3-5 to play finals and hope Essendon and Fremantle fall off the cliff. We will most likely 9-9 in 3 week and outside the 8, repeat of 2017 and 2020 coming up Edited July 6, 2023 by Garbo 1 Quote
Roost it far 10,137 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, beelzebub said: Which one ? Asking for a friend Very funny Quote
Roger Mellie 4,205 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Garbo said: We will most likely 9-9 in 3 week and outside the 8 That's the spirit! 2 1 Quote
Jjrogan 1,485 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) I'm surprised the loss of Fritta hasn't got more concern around here. Clarry's absence has been covered remarkably by Trac and JV this last month. But both are elite at what they do so it's not hugely surprising. Little concerned who exactly is going to take marks inside our forward 50 and have those shots at goal. After Fritta (30), out next best is Pickett (22) then it drops off. This isn't simply about a ball movement/game plan issue. The next player in is nowhere near the calibre of AA that Fritta is. Imo really need Grundy or Gawn to snag a few this week. The back up Saints ruckman from hit outs is Mitch Owens. Yes, that Mitch Owens. If you are paying $1.4 mln for 2 guys against a first year midget they better win you a game like this or at least dominate on the scoreboard. Edited July 6, 2023 by Jjrogan 5 Quote
Roost it far 10,137 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jjrogan said: I'm surprised the loss of Fritta hasn't got more concern around here. Clarry's absence has been covered remarkably by Trac and JV this last month. But both are elite at what they do so it's not hugely surprising. Little concerned who exactly is going to take marks inside our forward 50 and have those shots at goal. After Fritta (30), out next best is Pickett (22) then it drops off. This isn't simply about a ball movement/game plan issue. The next player in is nowhere near the calibre of AA that Fritta is. Imo really need Grundy or Gawn to snag a few this week. The back up Saints ruckman from hit outs is Mitch Owens. Yes, that Mitch Owens. If you are paying $1.4 mln for 2 guys against a first year midget they better win you a game like this or at least dominate on the scoreboard. Our forward half has been unworkable, just maybe his absence creates some out of the box thinking and we improve. Edited July 6, 2023 by Roost it far 3 Quote
MurDoc516 1,529 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 As a football club these last 4 years we have a history of playing players when injured. Goodwin has even spoken about this as well. The idea that the club made the best decision possible for the health of Oliver by letting him play a quarter after pulling it and by getting him running so soon after has no doubt hindered his recovery as much as getting an infection did. I don't care if the infection did a number on his recovery, that's bad luck. I don't care if he's arguing with a physio, that's passion. I don't care if he heals slower than the expected time frame, it is what it is. I do care that the club did something I've never seen other professional organisations across all codes do when a hamstring injury occurs. The club needs to answer that. 3 Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Jaded No More said: Oh good. No Clarry for another month and no Fritsch until finals. I’M DOING DRY JULY, CLAYTON! 2 Quote
ANG13 2,110 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 Feels like a trip to Germany and some cow blood injections not too far away. 2 Quote
FritschyBusiness 1,478 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said: The stats tell a different story. We should have beaten Geelong, GWS and Freo. The culprit was kicking accuracy. Trac is usually the player with the highest scoring involvements and he is still playing. We have Contested footy in all three of those games (I think) and outside the brain fart in the 4th at Kardinia we were dominant. IMO the issue is our forward mix and confidence in set shot kicking. Gawn at FF is not working and the sooner the coaching staff realise this and change it, the better. We have to be more mobile and something like BB at FF, JVR, Smith, Melksham, Kozzy and Chin are setup to do that. The solution however doesn’t stop there, the delivery is important and we have to honour short kicks into the 30-40m zone. Completely agree. Kicking accuracy inside 50 to a target and towards goal has been the whole issue. Fix that and we enter 2021 finals form. 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Roost it far said: Our forward half has been unworkable, just maybe his absence creates some out of the box thinking and we improve. The Hail Mary of Hail Mary's.... no niggle towards you...but If thats what the brains trust hopes....oi vey 1 Quote
Roost it far 10,137 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, beelzebub said: The Hail Mary of Hail Mary's.... no niggle towards you...but If thats what the brains trust hopes....oi vey It’s not the brains trust it’s the reality. It appears we’re going small this week. I don’t mind it, it’s as much the kick into the forwards as it is the forwards who need to improve. Yes I’d of liked JVR in the side but you can’t argue with his management this season. Couple of weeks to freshen up playing VFL, get Melk his 100 and hopefully Brown finds some form. If he can become a 2-4 goal a game player we’ll be a lot better off. 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,334 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 Unfortunately with the Oliver news, it is what it is. Need to move forward now and continue to find ways to think our midfield. I think the positive is that our midfield has actually held up better then I thought. We're still beating teams in contested possessions and centre clearences so not like our strength around the ball has dropped. Still think we can be better by adding Pickett in there and giving more midfield opportunities to say Salem or Rivers. 5 Quote
picket fence 18,185 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Billy said: He’ll be cherry ripe for finals, shame we won’t be in them No he wont!! Underdone to buggery and will lack fitness and confidence. NOT worth the risk , coz we aint going to go anywhere near close and IMV are stuffed this year . Put in cotton wool till next year Edited July 6, 2023 by picket fence 2 Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,824 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ANG13 said: Feels like a trip to Germany and some cow blood injections not too far away. Why not, the club has lots of cash after the trip to Alice. Edited July 6, 2023 by YesitwasaWin4theAges 1 Quote
Roost it far 10,137 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, picket fence said: No he wont!! Underdone to buggery and will lack fitness and confidence. NOT worth the risk , coz we aint going to go anywhere near close and IMV are stuffed this year . Put in cotton wool till next year 🤦♂️ 1 1 1 Quote
Kev 10,926 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Roost it far said: 🤦♂️ I was nearly believing picket. Backline, is still strong, and we can play desperate, effort making footy. Finals style plan. Edited July 6, 2023 by kev martin 2 Quote
layzie 34,528 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 This injury economics is making us brokanomics. 2 Quote
Billy 2,575 Posted July 6, 2023 Posted July 6, 2023 Seems like we’re not allowed to talk about this, but what is going on? The way that our Best & most important player has been looked after & treated has been diabolical First nicks his hamstring, then is seen running a day later Then hospitalised for 5 days with a infected toe & releasing himself Then the online trolling about drug taking, with the Coach taking waaay to long to back his player & shut down the rumours Public arguments with the fitness staff Promises of playing every week since the Kings birthday & now talk about him missing a least another month & now talking about his hamstring tendon This feels like a very public soap opera unfolding in front of our eyes I feel so sorry for Clarry the way he’s been treated & how unprofessional the football club has been Over 10 weeks out for gods sake 1 1 Quote
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