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7 hours ago, FireInTheBennelly said:

Any publicity is good publicity.

For 2023 the AFL Umpire Association to be sponsored by Sportsbet?

At first I thought that was funny. Then I realised that they were probably already planning that.  And are now [censored] off that he current scandal will put a stop to it.

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    A tangent..the maggots meet for half an hour post game to discuss who they will vote for...how many beers they can drink more Iikely, but apparently none of them say stuff like.." gee I thought Steven May had a three vote game; he basically won it for the Dees"

    Weird stuff

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    43 minutes ago, rjay said:

    Gambling is a big issue...I remember my father always saying it would come back to haunt the AFL & he was right.

    The problem is there are way too many vested interests here to get a real debate on the issue.

    'Bite the hand that feeds'...will be interesting to hear the SEN & FOX takes in particular.

    Will they put gambling under the microscope or will the focus be on the umpire?

    Will they narrow the issue down rather than explore the wider ramifications?

    I think we both know the answer rjay.

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    5 minutes ago, IRW said:

    A tangent..the maggots meet for half an hour post game to discuss who they will vote for...how many beers they can drink more Iikely, but apparently none of them say stuff like.." gee I thought Steven May had a three vote game; he basically won it for the Dees"

    Weird stuff

    It’s been a midfielders awards for decades IRW.

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    2 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:
    1. Downlow - love it. Funny.
    2. In answer to your question - the answer is simple. A three person panel: Daisy, Paxy and Lilly to cast votes in all nine games each round. They are that good. 

    I though of calling the Downlow after Jab Watson won it —— maybe now should be the DOWNLOWER. 

     

     

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    6 minutes ago, old dee said:

    It’s been a midfielders awards for decades IRW.

    I suspect that there has somewhere been a breakdown of mid vs defender vs forward total votes for each season.   It is who the umpires see most (given their poor visual acuity): another reason to take it out of their clutches. 

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    How the deed was done/discovered:

    "...one betting agency was alerted to a punter or punters placing bets on players’ votes in different matches and winning every time...By the end of the count, a red flag was beside his name...The league...then cross-checked the betting patterns with other betting partners and found the same individual/s placing similar bets.

    Subsequent cross-checking on the games themselves then reportedly showed Pell as the one constant.

    The Age reported bets ranged in size, all the way up to several thousand dollars".

    brownlow-medal-betting-scandal

    Pell's gambling 'mates' seem very naive in how betting agencies track recurring/unusual betting patterns and not very good at covering their tracks. 

    Pell was stupid to give them the info.  If it was that simple or just once he could plead ignorance.   But going on the above it was for 'different matches' and if he got a share of the winnings he is in for a very torrid time.

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    12 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    How the deed was done/discovered:

    "...one betting agency was alerted to a punter or punters placing bets on players’ votes in different matches and winning every time...By the end of the count, a red flag was beside his name...The league...then cross-checked the betting patterns with other betting partners and found the same individual/s placing similar bets.

    Subsequent cross-checking on the games themselves then reportedly showed Pell as the one constant.

    The Age reported bets ranged in size, all the way up to several thousand dollars".

    brownlow-medal-betting-scandal

    Pell's gambling 'mates' seem very naive in how betting agencies track recurring/unusual betting patterns and not very good at covering their tracks. 

    Pell was stupid to give them the info.  If it was that simple or just once he could plead ignorance.   But going on the above it was for 'different matches' and if he got a share of the winnings he is in for a very torrid time.

    that's an understatement; looking at potentially a decade in gaol

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    14 hours ago, Deeoldfart said:

    “Love the game, not the odds”

    "Bet with jailmates"

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    9 hours ago, willmoy said:

    Touk Miller Captain Of GC  which was umpired by this bloke six times during year for how many votes hmm..

    Coaches must have been in on it as well, considering he shared the AFL coaches award with Clarrie.

    Lets not try and invent something which isn’t there.

    If there’s anything in this it will relate to spot betting after the event

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    14 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

    that's an understatement; looking at potentially a decade in gaol

    Big penalty for being naive and stupid.  As always with the AFL the penalty is not for the misdeed but is for being caught.

    Lord knows how many other not-above-board betting on AFL games/events people get away with because they are smart enough to camouflage their misdeeds and not get caught.

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    1 hour ago, IRW said:

    A tangent..the maggots meet for half an hour post game to discuss who they will vote for...how many beers they can drink more Iikely, but apparently none of them say stuff like.." gee I thought Steven May had a three vote game; he basically won it for the Dees"

    Weird stuff

    They 'umpire': none of them would know much about footy: some of dem don't even know da rules!

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    15 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    The AFL and SEN love betting 

    They shove it Down our throats Daily 

    Disgraceful

    I get why SEN do it, They are desperate for revenue of any description

    Bit the AFL....hmm

     

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    27 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

    that's an understatement; looking at potentially a decade in gaol

    Let's not fall for the tabloid version of the story. Ten years in gaol is the maximum penalty. He clearly won't get that. And he may not even be charged with any offences. Irrespective of any criminal process, based on what has happened to players involved in football betting, the AFL will presumably suspend him for a considerable period. What will be interesting is whether he would be given a chance at redemption (should he want to continue as an umpire) once any period of suspension is over.

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    9 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    Let's not fall for the tabloid version of the story. Ten years in gaol is the maximum penalty. He clearly won't get that. And he may not even be charged with any offences. Irrespective of any criminal process, based on what has happened to players involved in football betting, the AFL will presumably suspend him for a considerable period. What will be interesting is whether he would be given a chance at redemption (should he want to continue as an umpire) once any period of suspension is over.

    Unless defrauding the betting agencies of money is regarded as worse than murder, even murder by arson, then he won’t get much if any jail time. 

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    25 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

    People with the surname Pell, buggering things up for everyone.

    Which means ipso facto, the two Pells are not related.

     

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    Once again shows the arrogant the AFL is as an organisation and also makes bookermakers in Pakistan not so bad.

     

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    1 hour ago, Pennant St Dee said:

    Coaches must have been in on it as well, considering he shared the AFL coaches award with Clarrie.

    Lets not try and invent something which isn’t there.

    If there’s anything in this it will relate to spot betting after the event

    So we both know the same amount then.

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    5 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:
    1. Downlow - love it. Funny.
    2. In answer to your question - the answer is simple. A three person panel: Daisy, Paxy and Lilly to cast votes in all nine games each round. They are that good. 

    The ‘Downlow’ award has been a quintessential element of many post season footy trips for decades. 
     

    However, the Glen Waverley boys took it to a whole new level this year - quite literally too. 😂

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