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Does anyone have any news or inkling of who will stay and who will be pork copped?

 

I've been wondering how long the club will wait to rain on someone's literal grand final parade. Any time is too soon for a delisting after a premiership. 

Just now, Grouse said:

I've been wondering how long the club will wait to rain on someone's literal grand final parade. Any time is too soon for a delisting after a premiership. 

Well they only waited 2 days last year, that's a decent measuring stick. 

 

We have only two candidates for delisting:  Baker and Rosman.

Jackson is OOC and asked to be traded.

The rest of the OOC players are reported to have been offered contracts and M.Brown reportedly will retire.

So don't expect too much delisting news.

 

5 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

We have only two candidates for delisting:  Baker and Rosman.

Jackson is OOC and asked to be traded.

The rest of the OOC players are reported to have been offered contracts and M.Brown reportedly will retire.

So don't expect too much delisting news.

This  is bad news.

After an underwhelming 2022 where players from 2021 were not under enough pressure to produce by the Coach and SC we need at least 6 new players over 2021 and 2022. To improve our list and keep the list keen and yearning  for growth. 

Internal improvement is not enough and in 2022 many list players fell off their 2031 standard. Yes about 8/10 Casey players are promising or will get a chance early but nothing is certain.

Hopefully a couple of new coaches are sought ( not in place of Ooze BTW) for new plans snd our forward line and backs both could be looked at. 

I think some sense in recruiting by trade is very necessary for us at present so hope this May eventuate. Our Four Year Plan is petering out if this is the 2023 version. 


1 minute ago, 58er said:

This  is bad news.

After an underwhelming 2022 where players from 2021 were not under enough pressure to produce by the Coach and SC we need at least 6 new players over 2021 and 2022. To improve our list and keep the list keen and yearning  for growth. 

Internal improvement is not enough and in 2022 many list players fell off their 2031 standard. Yes about 8/10 Casey players are promising or will get a chance early but nothing is certain.

Hopefully a couple of new coaches are sought ( not in place of Ooze BTW) for new plans snd our forward line and backs both could be looked at. 

I think some sense in recruiting by trade is very necessary for us at present so hope this May eventuate. Our Four Year Plan is petering out if this is the 2023 version. 

I suspect we'll see action in FA and trade. Jackson, Bedford, Hunt, Tomlinson could all be on the move and there could be some surprises too.

5 hours ago, old55 said:

I suspect we'll see action in FA and trade. Jackson, Bedford, Hunt, Tomlinson could all be on the move and there could be some surprises too.

Don't want surprises and Tommo is contracted another year and Hunt has been offered or is contracted. Bedford has not accepted a 2 year deal to date but has multiple suitors.

If we have these deals I Hope we  trade for a required position rather than  3rd rounder! Say. 

11 minutes ago, 58er said:

This  is bad news.

After an underwhelming 2022 where players from 2021 were not under enough pressure to produce by the Coach and SC we need at least 6 new players over 2021 and 2022. To improve our list and keep the list keen and yearning  for growth. 

Internal improvement is not enough and in 2022 many list players fell off their 2031 standard. Yes about 8/10 Casey players are promising or will get a chance early but nothing is certain.

Hopefully a couple of new coaches are sought ( not in place of Ooze BTW) for new plans snd our forward line and backs both could be looked at. 

I think some sense in recruiting by trade is very necessary for us at present so hope this May eventuate. Our Four Year Plan is petering out if this is the 2023 version. 

I hear what you say.  This is about delistings.  Trades are another topic and presumably are covered in the 'Changes' thread or in individual player threads.

As @old55posted, potential trades will open opportunities for new players.

 

 

Is it just rumour or is Hibbo and Melk confirmed to have a new contract??

3 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Is it just rumour or is Hibbo and Melk confirmed to have a new contract??

Rumour.


4 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I hear what you say.  This is about delistings.  Trades are another topic and presumably are covered in the 'Changes' thread or in individual player threads.

As @old55posted, potential trades will open opportunities for new players.

 

understand up to a point thanks LH

That's providing we look for players rather than  a realistic pick if any of our players are delisted or approached at say  3rd or 4th round!!! 

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Well they only waited 2 days last year, that's a decent measuring stick. 

Last year might have been impacted indirectly by Covid. I seem to recall the club had to advise players before they left Perth as the Covid protocols in place at the time meant in-person meetings in Melbourne would have been out of the question. I suspect some players wanted to go from Perth to places other than Melbourne, such as Adelaide if they were from SA. So, the short time line might have been a one-off.  

6 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Last year might have been impacted indirectly by Covid. I seem to recall the club had to advise players before they left Perth as the Covid protocols in place at the time meant in-person meetings in Melbourne would have been out of the question. I suspect some players wanted to go from Perth to places other than Melbourne, such as Adelaide if they were from SA. So, the short time line might have been a one-off.  

Correct LDC By the Wed all exits were finished as Gawny took Cup home on the Thursday. 

2 hours ago, 58er said:

This  is bad news.

After an underwhelming 2022 where players from 2021 were not under enough pressure to produce by the Coach and SC we need at least 6 new players over 2021 and 2022. To improve our list and keep the list keen and yearning  for growth. 

Internal improvement is not enough and in 2022 many list players fell off their 2031 standard. Yes about 8/10 Casey players are promising or will get a chance early but nothing is certain.

Hopefully a couple of new coaches are sought ( not in place of Ooze BTW) for new plans snd our forward line and backs both could be looked at. 

I think some sense in recruiting by trade is very necessary for us at present so hope this May eventuate. Our Four Year Plan is petering out if this is the 2023 version. 

Completely not surprised. 

15 hours ago, 58er said:

understand up to a point thanks LH

That's providing we look for players rather than  a realistic pick if any of our players are delisted or approached at say  3rd or 4th round!!! 

I guess we will get what the club the player has chosen will agree to.

I don't mind if a player is traded for a 3rd draft pick; 4th round is a bit of a stretch.  In another thread I noted that for the last 3 years Taylor has used only picks in the1st and 2nd rounds.  So to me it looks a policy, a smart one at that as the talent gets pretty thin after pick #35. 

Essentially, any 3rd or 4th round picks we have/get we package them up for a higher pick or trade them for future picks. 

So if for example, we get a 3rd round pick for a player and it helps us package that with another 3rd round pick for a second round pick I'm happy with that as we (theoretically) get a better quality player than the one we let go.


Retirements?

Mitch Brown - off the rookie list

Hibberd and Melksham- each are likely to be given 1-year more. 

Jackson - to be traded out 

Other trades? Bedford and Tomlinson could seek more opportunities and a fair go elsewhere. 

?? Hunt - free agency?? 

Delistings? 
Most likely are Baker and Rosman.  
Disappointed for Baker as he stars at VFL but behind too many at the Dees. Langdon, Brayshaw and Jordon ahead of him. 
Rosman has not had a good run with injuries. Showed signs with long kicking game but lacked footy smarts at times … ideally needs a rookie season to get fully fit and continue development.  Not sure he gets one. 

Baker is gone, not a smart enough footballer on the wing and has had enough opportunity.  Rosman wont be gone,  only 20 and been at the club for 2 years with injuries holding him back.

id say Hibbo and Melk will get contracts but i think we should say thank you and move past them.  

also expect M. Brown not to be offered another contract either

then we have  Weid, Thommo and Bedford who may be looking to move on for oppertunity

Respect for Brown, a good honest footballer. 


Rosman was a great athlete but he didn’t have any footy IQ at all and wasn’t making any progress. 

Shame he didn’t get to play in the VFL grand final though.

Oskar Baker survives the first round of delistings. Can he hang on?

2 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Few more to come you’d think. Got a sneaky feeling Goody’s mate Melksham May get another year 

I’m told he will as well as Hibberd.

 

Melksham should be let go. 

id offer Hibberd one year 

Rosman never quite looked comfortable at the level despite having some great attributes. Shame he missed out on the VFL granny with concussion.


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