1 hour ago, BDA said:

Handy depth

Train Joel as a forward and the Weid and a backman. You never know. Might work

I'd personally like to see Weid train as a ruckman, he's not horrible with tap work.

the boys will be happy - entrecôte bookings sorted for another 2 years! 🥩 🤜 

22 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Hibbo retire? He is playing cracking footy!

Yep. Totally underestimated in the comp by so many. Easily shuts down the best of the best.

His age hasn't slowed him.

He has incredible closing speed and a wealth of defenders experience.

Did  a great job against the lions and I still remember when ne made Dusty Martin look like an auskick player.

One of the reasons are backline struggled early as Hibberd was absent.

We have offered Toby a 2 year deal also I believe. Tommo I think has one year left on his contract so unless things change and he or the Club change their minds he is a 2023 starter

I have not been Joel's biggest fan and until last year at the end when he finally realised he was part of a defence team he was a liability. 

Yes he was injured agsin this year but he is no doubt now up to AFL standard and the fact that we at long last are trying him up forward is a big potential bonus. 

Maybe one year with an option if either extending for another  contract would be wiser but let's go with it snd we could well be rewarded with a latent star in the twilight of his career. Hoping Joel can be injury free of course.

PS Remember how Roosy revived Lord Nev to greatness for 5 Years for our defence then this could well be another great decision now for our forward line of the future. 

Let it play out to the full I say. Go Joel. 
 

6 minutes ago, layzie said:

I'd personally like to see Weid train as a ruckman, he's not horrible with tap work.

Agree Layzie

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

As reported on AFL.com..

2 year deal supposedly. To be honest I don't mind this? Especially if he spends a full summer training as a forward where I think we could see some huge growth hopefully next year.

He's the perfect prototype player for this game with his speed, versatility and strength. Gives us an option to throw down back if need due to injury etc.

poor bloke can't stay in the park works so hard and deserves a good run at it ... could be our back up ruck if we have injuries

1 hour ago, binman said:

Could he also pinch hit in the ruck the way the blues use silvagni?

Doubt his body could stand up to it given it can't usually stand up playing on a back flank

3 hours ago, poita said:

Joel will be 27 by the start of next season and has played 26 career games in 7 years.

His potential is irrelevant - his lack of durability and propensity to injury makes him the absolute definition of a list clogger.

We are just hoping for something that simply isn't there. Time to move on and find someone who can get on the field most weeks.

we're already losing Majak and assumably MBrown as talls off the list (given his 3yr rookie time is up) with serious Q's over Weids ability/want to stay and just make up the numbers and TMac's lisfranc, we need the balance of an extra tall on the list. 

3 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Baker will get delisted. Rosman delisted with a potential re-rookie. Hunt will sign on unless he is offered a better deal elsewhere.

I think both Hibbo and Melksham will retire, especially if we win the flag. 

Jackson is 99.9% gone. 

Bedford is also out of contract I believe. 

Also just because someone is signed, doesn't mean we can't trade them. I wouldn't begrudge Chandler if he went elsewhere since he can't get a regular gig and he is good enough to play AFL. 

Baker -agree

Rosman -agree

Hunt -agree

Hibbo/Melky - i think get 1yrs regardless

Jackson -agree

Bedford -stays i rkn but yes is OOC

 

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

Hibbo retire? He is playing cracking footy!

I don't disagree, but if he wins another flag he might decide that he is done. He did have a niggling calf injury earlier this year which kept him out for almost half a year. If he wants to go again I would be happy to give him another 1 year deal.

But we have to keep the list ticking over. We need to make minimum 3 list changes, and it's getting harder and harder to pick the 3. I also think it is a big miss not to let Jason Taylor work his magic in the draft. He can do some great things with later picks. I don't want to keep holding on to players who are NQR. I prefer to take a punt on a Taylor special in the second and third rounds.

I guess a lot depends on what happens with Jackson, as his departure might turn into 2 early picks, or it might turn into  pick and a player, or we might on trade the picks we get for him for another player or try to drop down the draft order if we think there is someone we want. 

 

Must be to stop the medical team getting bored 

100% @Turner - If Smith goes forward it makes sense retaining as depth with M Brown on the way out. Also question marks on some injuries for others and what will happen to Melk.

As long as he's not taking too much of my boy Hunt's $ i don't mind the signing

 

4 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

True, but he is also a cheap backup option with plenty of versatility. I don't think we would get more out of a rookie pick.

If he can stay fit is he our new Pedo?

I think that Tomlinson may have some suitors, and wouldn't be surprised if the club looked to trade him. Turner and Smith as depth, plus Hibbo can play tall or small.

Smith on a base level contract is worth keeping. 

If we give him a two year deal and he is injured all year next year he’ll be taking up a valuable spot. If it’s two years if must be performance/games played  based for the second

7 hours ago, DubDee said:

If we give him a two year deal and he is injured all year next year he’ll be taking up a valuable spot. If it’s two years if must be performance/games played  based for the second

It's a smart move by the club I reckon.

The game is geared towards athletes now, and he is super athletic.

With his leap he plays tall, he's quick, he's strong and can play mutiple positions.

It's a pretty rare combination of attributes, and I reckon that's why goody likes what he brings to the team so much.

He's probably on a relatively low base payment, with as you suggest performance payments.

So, not a huge hit there. 

And we've invested a lot of time and effort already, so there's a sunk cost, so to speak.

On the injury front, yes he'd had some soft tissue injuries (groin), but some have been just plain bad luck.

There's a good team working with him, so really there's no reason why he won't have an extended block of injury free games.

A two year contract shows confidence by the club and in Joel.

We need depth, and a strong Casey team - and Smith helps with both.

So a good move all around.

Edited August 25, 20222 yr by binman

Cheap, flexible, depth player. No qualms about this. Been on the list for a while but had to spend a lot of time as a Cat b rookie learning the game. Will be handy as our key position players get older.

1 hour ago, binman said:

Makes you wonder why the best team in the AFL, with a terrific list management team and an elite medical and sport science team, thought it prudent to offer him a new contract.

Not.

Apologies, I promise not to offer an opinion that may differ from that of the MFC in the future

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

Apologies, I promise not to offer an opinion that may differ from that of the MFC in the future

I better delete all my posts questioning the wisdom of getting Grundy after suffering back to back long term injuries.

9 hours ago, poita said:

Joel will be 27 by the start of next season and has played 26 career games in 7 years.

His potential is irrelevant - his lack of durability and propensity to injury makes him the absolute definition of a list clogger.

We are just hoping for something that simply isn't there. Time to move on and find someone who can get on the field most weeks.

Spot on. He cant play more than 3 or 4 consecutive games. This has happened every year for 6 years or so.  A list clogger - move him on.

Sort of like Billy Joel in a way. Looked like he was going to be a big shot early on, but ended up in Zanzibar. 

5 hours ago, binman said:

Makes you wonder why the best team in the AFL, with a terrific list management team and an elite medical and sport science team, thought it prudent to offer him a new contract.

Not.

I had to look twice to see if this was Binman or Saty.

Below average post by you here. All Dubdee really said is that he gets injured a hell of a lot. A performance based contract would be ideal. However, my personal opinion is that he wont be taking up much cap room anyway so two years is fine.

4 minutes ago, BAMF said:

I had to look twice to see if this was Binman or Saty.

Below average post by you here. All Dubdee really said is that he gets injured a hell of a lot. A performance based contract would be ideal. However, my personal opinion is that he wont be taking up much cap room anyway so two years is fine.

Fair criticism.

3 hours ago, DubDee said:

Apologies, I promise not to offer an opinion that may differ from that of the MFC in the future

My apologies, my post was uncalled for 

Not sure why he would warrant more than a one year deal, just like weid last year got 2 when clearly 1 was more than enough.

3 hours ago, binman said:

My apologies, my post was uncalled for 

Appreciate it mate. Play on!