Jump to content

Featured Replies

 

Assuming a Rutten payout is within the soft cap it's really hard to sack a contracted coach. I assume he has a contract for 2023 as he was only appointed at the start of the 2021 season.

Noble at North had a rolling 6 month contract so they only had to pay 6 months when he left. By covering with a "relief coach" for the last two or so months of the season the impact for North was not too bad

29 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Assuming a Rutten payout is within the soft cap it's really hard to sack a contracted coach. I assume he has a contract for 2023 as he was only appointed at the start of the 2021 season.

Noble at North had a rolling 6 month contract so they only had to pay 6 months when he left. By covering with a "relief coach" for the last two or so months of the season the impact for North was not too bad

I believe the AFL now have a rule that no coach can be paid out more that 6 months of ther contract. Stops clubs having to do a Clarko and fork out $1mill or more just to change coach

 
1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

Surely not, Neil never gets anything wrong 🤪

The man who said the LGBT flag was ‘divisive’? It’s colours Neil. I’m sure you’ll cope.

1 hour ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

You seem to have forgotten that Stephen Dank has promised to tell his story and clear everyone of any wrongdoing. Any day now...

With the soft cap, how can Essendon have more money to offer than North? Surely if Clarkson takes more money himself from Essendon there would be less available for all other football requirements, including assistant coaches.

It all seems very much like Melbourne after the 186 game. Headless chooks not knowing who to sack and the order in which to sack them.   

Very trustworthy club, I'm sure they wouldn't play shenanigans with the soft cap, would they?


58 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

I believe the AFL now have a rule that no coach can be paid out more that 6 months of ther contract. Stops clubs having to do a Clarko and fork out $1mill or more just to change coach

I know this was discussed but I think it only applies to the AFL funded clubs such as GCS and GWS. If it applied league wide it would make a mockery of 3 or 5 year contracts.

This is how players are contracted (minimum term etc) so it's only fair coaches get the same deal.

Would be nice to know for sure

9 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

I know this was discussed but I think it only applies to the AFL funded clubs such as GCS and GWS. If it applied league wide it would make a mockery of 3 or 5 year contracts.

This is how players are contracted (minimum term etc) so it's only fair coaches get the same deal.

Would be nice to know for sure

You might be right, though it could also be all clubs that signed up to be financially backed by the AFL at the start of the pandemic

Effectively mean any AFL funded club could sign a 5 year coaching deal and give them the flick after 2 with only 6 months of pay

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-insists-on-six-month-payout-clauses-for-coaches-20200918-p55wu1.html

Edited by Stiff Arm
Found link

 

You wonder if you will ever see player contracts with club level performance requirements.

Missing out on the UEFA League commonly allows the megastars to walk as does relegation.

Should a player such as Peter Wright have to stay around for a rebuild for example.

I'm waiting for Bombers supporters to start calling for the messiah James Hird to return.


Hoping Rutter stays. Mainly so they don’t get Clarkson but I also think it is harsh on rutten. They have been savaged with injuries all year. 

they have 4-5 quality kids that Clarkson could build a good team with

Rutts needs some god damn stability in that club. It's been turbulent ever since he came in. 

I reckon the bombers should try another succession plan.

Get Jobe 'the wordsmith' Watson in as senior assistant, with rutten as the seasoned mentor type.

Watson to take the reins after two more years treading water.

2 minutes ago, binman said:

I reckon the bombers should try another succession plan.

Get Jobe 'the wordsmith' Watson in as senior assistant, with rutten as the seasoned mentor type.

Watson to take the reins after two more years treading water.

From a demons and genuine footy fans perspective, I think this has much merit, as I dont think Jobe could coach backpackers to the airport.

I really feel for Rutten. It feels like he has barely had time and space to build a list, form relationships with key club personnel etc... Whatever happens I hope he stays in footy. Maybe we take him if Yze departs?

As far s the Bombers being in crisis: -
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
... take a breath
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

May they remain irrelevant and mediocre until the robots rise to kill us all.


Feels like there is a divide within the club and they’ve been waiting for a big loss to make a move

and aren’t we all just loving it!

stability is key in the early years of a rebuild 

No point in sacking Rutten for 1 round.  

Essendon would seem to be much more desirable that North or Giants or GC.  It's in Melbourne and the club has cash.  I expect Clarkson to hold off for a week.

1 hour ago, mo64 said:

I'm waiting for Bombers supporters to start calling for the messiah James Hird to return.

People have, so I pointed out you sacked him after he came back 


4 hours ago, Redleg said:

Sounds like they wanted to have a go at Clarko and if he is already committed, then they are probably keeping Rutten.

Must make Rutten feel really valued 

Maybe he should resign and leave them coachless

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

You wonder if you will ever see player contracts with club level performance requirements.

Missing out on the UEFA League commonly allows the megastars to walk as does relegation.

Should a player such as Peter Wright have to stay around for a rebuild for example.

Anyone know Peter Wright’s contract status??

360 reporting that bombers are all in on Clarkson and just a matter of time until Rutten sacked. 

 
14 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Must make Rutten feel really valued 

Maybe he should resign and leave them coachless

Anyone know Peter Wright’s contract status??

YES TO PETER WRIGHT. 

8 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

You seem to have forgotten that Stephen Dank has promised to tell his story and clear everyone of any wrongdoing. Any day now...

With the soft cap, how can Essendon have more money to offer than North? Surely if Clarkson takes more money himself from Essendon there would be less available for all other football requirements, including assistant coaches.

It all seems very much like Melbourne after the 186 game. Headless chooks not knowing who to sack and the order in which to sack them.   

Well he can make the choice between turning up to work at a club with state of the art facilities and money falling out've its pockets.
Or to the club with their arzz hangin' out their pants.

If he's going anywhere, it'll be to The Hanger.

https://www.austadiums.com/stadiums/the-hangar
 

Edited by Fork 'em


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • CASEY: Sydney

    The Casey Demons were always expected to emerge victorious in their matchup against the lowly-ranked Sydney Swans at picturesque Tramway Oval, situated in the shadows of the SCG in Moore Park. They dominated the proceedings in the opening two and a half quarters of the game but had little to show for it. This was primarily due to their own sloppy errors in a low-standard game that produced a number of crowded mauls reminiscent of the rugby game popular in old Sydney Town. However, when the Swans tired, as teams often do when they turn games into ugly defensive contests, Casey lifted the standard of its own play and … it was off to the races. Not to nearby Randwick but to a different race with an objective of piling on goal after goal on the way to a mammoth victory. At the 25-minute mark of the third quarter, the Demons held a slender 14-point lead over the Swans, who are ahead on the ladder of only the previous week's opposition, the ailing Bullants. Forty minutes later, they had more than fully compensated for the sloppiness of their earlier play with a decisive 94-point victory, that culminated in a rousing finish which yielded thirteen unanswered goals. Kicks hit their targets, the ball found itself going through the middle and every player made a contribution.

    • 1 reply
  • REPORT: St. Kilda

    Hands up if you thought, like me, at half-time in yesterday’s game at TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs that Melbourne’s disposal around the ground and, in particular, its kicking inaccuracy in front of the goals couldn’t get any worse. Well, it did. And what’s even more damning for the Melbourne Football Club is that the game against St Kilda and its resurgence from the bottomless pit of its miserable start to the season wasn’t just lost through poor conversion for goal but rather in the 15 minutes when the entire team went into a slumber and was mugged by the out-of-form Saints. Their six goals two behinds (one goal less than the Demons managed for the whole game) weaved a path of destruction from which they were unable to recover. Ross Lyon’s astute use of pressure to contain the situation once they had asserted their grip on the game, and Melbourne’s self-destructive wastefulness, assured that outcome. The old adage about the insanity of repeatedly doing something and expecting a different result, was out there. Two years ago, the score line in Melbourne’s loss to the Giants at this same ground was 5 goals 15 behinds - a ratio of one goal per four scoring shots - was perfectly replicated with yesterday’s 7 goals 21 behinds. 
    This has been going on for a while and opens up a number of questions. I’ll put forward a few that come to mind from this performance. The obvious first question is whether the club can find a suitable coach to instruct players on proper kicking techniques or is this a skill that can no longer be developed at this stage of the development of our playing group? Another concern is the team's ability to counter an opponent's dominance during a run on as exemplified by the Saints in the first quarter. Did the Demons underestimate their opponents, considering St Kilda's goals during this period were scored by relatively unknown forwards? Furthermore, given the modest attendance of 6,721 at TIO Traeger Park and the team's poor past performances at this venue, is it prudent to prioritize financial gain over potentially sacrificing valuable premiership points by relinquishing home ground advantage, notwithstanding the cultural significance of the team's connection to the Red Centre? 

    • 4 replies
  • PREGAME: Collingwood

    After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Like
    • 194 replies
  • PODCAST: St. Kilda

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 2nd June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we have a chat with former Demon ruckman Jeff White about his YouTube channel First Use where he dissects ruck setups and contests. We'll then discuss the Dees disappointing loss to the Saints in Alice Springs.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

      • Clap
      • Love
      • Like
    • 47 replies
  • POSTGAME: St. Kilda

    After kicking the first goal of the match the Demons were always playing catch up against the Saints in Alice Spring and could never make the most of their inside 50 entries to wrestle back the lead.

      • Like
    • 330 replies
  • VOTES: St. Kilda

    Max Gawn still has a massive lead in the Demonland Player of the Year award as Christian Petracca, Jake Bowey, Clayton Oliver & Kozzy Pickett round out the Top 5. Your votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1

      • Like
    • 31 replies