POSTGAME : Rd 19 vs Western Bulldogs

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,766]

Another pick up tonight, Clarry did not handball with his right hand not once.

Did not burrow into packs and funnel the ball out like he usually does understandable though.

Might take him a couple of weeks for him to develope more confidence in the thumb.

[SPC 3,571]

We are in reality now the 4th or 5th best side on form (injuries played a part this year). Collingwood, Sydney are ahead. I can see us only winning 1-2 more at best. Just not the side of 2021, more 2020. But you know what, that is okay. 

[Demon Dynasty 17,130]

19 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

They have no clue how to switch play and what goes with that, they never look inside going forward,  they are so focused on going down the line they know nothing else, example harmes bursting out the centre milkshake is free and goal side, he kicks it to the pocket no thought.

Terrible piece of play that should have resulted in a goal.  Hand ball would have done it.

Edited July 23, 2022 by Demon Dynasty

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3 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I obviously do not understand modern footy!!!

Max is being ****canned on this site!!!   

He had 25 disposals - 16 kicks, 9 handballs , 8 marks. 

[censored] me .... he busted a gut .... as usual

These are off the planet figures for a ruckman in any era .  

 

English destroyed him tonight in terms of influence on the game

[Redleg 41,942]

42 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

We have far too many concerns with our game being so bloody predictable.

 

 

Clearly not according to the Coaches.

[demon3165 2,832]

1 minute ago, KingDingAling said:

We were robbed by the umpires. I cleaned up punting live in betting because of it, but I’d rather have won zero money. I had a lot of calls after the game saying “well done mate you cleaned up”. But I’d rather have not cleaned up. Fact is. Football is a hard game to win when your morale is continuously obliterated by the umpires. The bullies free kick count is just the usual for them. But for us, we can only go to the well so many times. It’s like a handicap in harness racing. We can come off of 10 and still win,’ come off 20. But if we keep coming off handicaps eventually you get rolled due to circumstance. Ideally we’d be treated fairy. Ironically, the answer isn’t to change our game, it’s it’s double down. Do we have players who play for free kicks? And if we do, get them out the side. Come September the teams who don’t get the arm chair ride off the umps - that they are used to - won’t last.

One can keep blaming the umpires,  but that only papers over the cracks we have in the game plan with how to switch play, how to open up the forward line as I have said before teams have worked us out, but is it to late to tinker with the game plan I hope not.

[SPC 3,571]

1 minute ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Another pick up tonight, Clarry did not handball with his right hand not once.

Did not burrow into packs and funnel the ball out like he usually does understandable though.

Might take him a couple of weeks for him to develope more confidence in the thumb.

Selwood the reason they are a game clear

[SPC 3,571]

1 minute ago, stranga said:

English destroyed him tonight in terms of influence on the game

Stats don’t compare to the optics 

[Lord Travis 10,793]

1 minute ago, SPC said:

We are in reality now the 4th or 5th best side on form (injuries played a part this year). Collingwood, Sydney are ahead. I can see us only winning 1-2 more at best. Just not the side of 2021, more 2020. But you know what, that is okay. 

On form we’re actually about 9th since the bye. We’ve also lost to every side in the top 8 except Brisbane. We’ve only got a few weeks to find some form as it looks like 2022 is turning into a waste.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,289]

1 minute ago, stranga said:

English destroyed him tonight in terms of influence on the game

English is a very good ruckman ...... he played a good game

[The heart beats true 18,183]

4 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I obviously do not understand modern footy!!!

Max is being ****canned on this site!!!   

He had 25 disposals - 16 kicks, 9 handballs , 8 marks. 

[censored] me .... he busted a gut .... as usual

These are off the planet figures for a ruckman in any era .  

 

You understand modern footy fine - you just don’t understand people who like to blame one our greatest ever players for trying his absolute guts out.

[Redleg 41,942]

We are being run over in multiple games, after leading for most of them.

Combination of sh-t draw, injuries and clearly fitness.

Burgess was a major loss.

[Dodos Demons 235]

12 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

But Bont wasn't. Incredible 

Staggering. Disgraceful. Given how frees against us were adjudicate it leaves you speechless and extremely angry. How can one team be favoured so obviously?

[dees189227 12,453]

5 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I obviously do not understand modern footy!!!

Max is being ****canned on this site!!!   

He had 25 disposals - 16 kicks, 9 handballs , 8 marks. 

[censored] me .... he busted a gut .... as usual

These are off the planet figures for a ruckman in any era .  

 

True but again he missed an easy goal goal which I'd expect our captain to kick. I know he gets banged up but English just ran around him & Jackson tonight

[Demon Disciple 12,452]

Just now, The heart beats true said:

You understand modern footy fine - you just don’t understand people who like to blame one our greatest ever players for trying his absolute guts out.

Just because he’s one of our best ever who tried his guts out doesn’t preclude him from the fact that he was well beaten tonight.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

Just now, stranga said:

English destroyed him tonight in terms of influence on the game

I was thinking that too. He has really come good. Max is getting on in age and I think that is starting to show now. 
 

I noticed a few times, when we kick it in from the square, there is always a player that gets in and stands in front of Max blocking is attempt to impact the contest. It is stuff like this that needs to be mentioned to the AFL.

And what about the basket? WTF was that all about, I thought you can kick in as soon as you like.

[binman 44,530]

6 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Are we still loading? 🤷‍♂️

Yes

But that was the last of it.

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 3,293]

18 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Fritta tried to pass....

Should've had a shot!!! 🤣

I said the same at the time. That was 💯 in his head stuff. He thought, if I go for this, I’ll be labelled selfish

[Demon Disciple 12,452]

Just now, Dodos Demons said:

Staggering. Disgraceful. Given how frees against us were adjudicate it leaves you speechless and extremely angry. How can one team be favoured so obviously?

Needs to be sent to AFL HQ with a serious WTF?

[Dodos Demons 235]

2 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Needs to be sent to AFL HQ with a serious WTF?

But will it..... umpiring inconsistency that displays a subconscious bias at best and a conscious bias at worst. 

Edited July 23, 2022 by Dodos Demons

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,766]

5 minutes ago, SPC said:

Selwood the reason they are a game clear

There is a four letter word that sums up that little _ _ _ _

Any ideas on the word im searching for?

 

 

 

[layzie 34,336]

Really hard to get a read on this one, the easy thing to do is blow up but that seems like a simple option. We were OK, even reasonable in patches but we just couldn't sustain it long enough. The way the Dogs were slingshotting it from the back meant they were always a chance to get looks at goal and score. We knew this. They also worked their ground ball gane to a treat but the kicker may have been that they weren't expecting to get such service out of JUH. Sensational game from the lad.

The concerns were there when it became really apparent that we could only score from centre clearance, I can remember very few times when we transitioned it successfully from the back and scored. I can also not remember many scores from Forward  50 turnover either and that 0 tackles inside 50 stat just doesn't help. The game was just not on our terms and although we rolled with it and managed to keep the scoreboard ticking over I'd say shoot-outs won't do it for us.

That second half was nerve wracking and I haven't felt that nervous about a game for quite a while. I can't remember a game where I looked up at the clock as much as I did in that last. I honestly felt like we needed to kick 4 goals to have a chance, we didn't. It happens but it is still a test failed for me.

I don't want to make any knee jerk statements like top 4 being over or top 2 being over but gee wiz look at our last 6 weeks of footy. Apart from a brilliant win over Brisbane there's a couple of patchy wins over Adelaide and Port and a bunch of Ls. I don't actually know what to say about it right now and that's neither a good or bad thing. I think we definitely needed to win tonight but we do have a massive chance next week against Freo where we simply must take a scalp. We don't have many losses left to give and I would have preferred to save them for later but we'll have to do it the hard way.

Holding fire for now. Not doom and gloom but gee these problems are not easily fixable. We are a very good side but I think we need to stop pretending that we are that much better than the rest and that we have some kind of divine right to winning this flag. The other teams are pretty good too.

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At half time a bloke four rows in front of me power spewed like I’ve never seen. It was a preview of the result 😂

Thought Gawn had a very average night & Jackson a shocker. Which equaled English dominating. 

The short break off the Alice trip didn’t help, in the last we struggled to get enough men to match them around the contests, felt like they always had one extra. 
 

Our second tier blokes were not good. 
 

Not sure why we’re complaining about the umpires, I was sitting on the Footscray wing & according to those specimens they were being robbed 😂

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1 minute ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

There is a four letter word that sums up that little _ _ _ _

Any ideas on the word im searching for?

 

 

 

I could type it, but either way you can’t read it! 

[The heart beats true 18,183]

5 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Just because he’s one of our best ever who tried his guts out doesn’t preclude him from the fact that he was well beaten tonight.

Evidently around here you only get evaluated by the last 5 minutes of football you’ve played.