POSTGAME : Rd 19 vs Western Bulldogs

[KingDingAling 3,596]

I was thoroughly impressed with us tonight. We did really well. Best we’ve played in some time. The only difference is last year we were able to win in spite of external factors (ie: umpires). This year, we aren’t quire at that point. We will need to get back there.

Edited July 23, 2022 by KingDingAling

[Mel Bourne 3,663]

5 minutes ago, Buzzy said:

Unfortunately the same issues come up week after week - that have been around for well over a decade.

- No power forwards. 

- Horrible inside 50's (Spargo is excused)

- Woeful kicking skills/turnovers. 

On top of that, we also look slow as hell at the moment.  Tomlinson, JJ, Brayshaw, we're carrying a few too many plodders at once.

We can't win a final with Tomlinson and JJ in our team, they are just so far off AFL pace and intensity.  And Brayshaw getting it more these days just highlights his poor disposal efficiency. He's 50/50 at best, always been a bit NQR at the worst times.

Embarrasingly outcoached tonight.  The Bulldogs just chipped sideways until we all sagged deep up the ground.. so even if we intercepted we would never have anything to kick to except a wall of Bulldogs.  Instead of trying to run it, we just politely kicked it long straight back to them.

Can't think of one player that has improved this year.  Not enjoyable to watch.

I’d say Petty. And I think Brayshaw has generally risen a whisker this season. But yeah, you’d wan’t that list to be much bigger. 

[Lord Nev 13,511]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I agree but 13 marks inside 50 may have contributed to that. That seems pretty high for us so less chances for our small forwards to apply that pressure on the ground ball. Still would like to see some tackles inside 50 though obviously.

Dogs had 10 marks inside 50 (albeit from 9 more entries) but still managed 9 tackles inside 50.

I'm not just blaming the smalls mind you, I think we lacked a 2nd tall forward option that would have brought it to ground those other times.

Edited July 23, 2022 by Lord Nev

[Garbo 1,330]

100 points first and we lost I thought that was the rule, but seriously fact we conceded over 100 point is the real reason we lost, defence failed big time tonight 

[Lord Nev 13,511]

4 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Hahaha! Come on "Nev" we go back a long way.  

You had the first crack... you had to post that stats thing that you subsequently deleted ... now you're whimping out - that's fine.

Just don't try to sugarcoat it as some sort of magnanimous gesture

Let's both just move on hey. No one wants to read this kind of back and forth.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,415]

27 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

Almond or regular? I’d prefer Almond if you can stick one aside.

Thanks mate now I'm getting the midnight munchies 🤣

[Buzzy 931]

1 hour ago, Seraph said:

Imagine potting a bloke playing on one leg

to be fair he looks slow every week

[Clayton spirit 174]

1 minute ago, Mel Bourne said:

I’d say Petty. And I think Brayshaw has generally risen a whisker this season. But yeah, you’d wan’t that list to be much bigger. 

Jordon is a clear one too. I'd definitely include Viney, Kozzy and probably Clarry. Saw the best of May too early in the season, not quite as good post-injury

[wheaters31 564]

First time we have conceded 100 points since 2019.

 

[Macca 16,173]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I thought Salem was ok tonight. Was under pressure most times he disposed of it but tended to find a teammate or put it to our advantage.

Salem needs to regain that quick 2 step he previously possessed that created time for himself to deliver the ball without being under undue pressure

Since having that injury he's often looked slow and rushed.  Those penetrating kicks of his into the forward 50 are virtually non existent

But he's not on his own in that area ... a number of our players just aren't playing to the level that they were last season

Tonight we kicked 1 goal in the last quarter when the game was up for grabs.  The opposition ran out the game and looked fitter and faster as the game went on

As someone else mentioned here earlier, that's now 5 games where we've been overrun in the 2nd half.  Over an 8 game stretch

Big game next week.  It will be like a final with a lot riding on the result.  If we don't win we're in trouble

 

[Lord Nev 13,511]

3 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

First time we have conceded 100 points since 2019.

And Freo were only one kick off that score last time we played them...

[Kick_It_To_Pickett 2,930]

Has Goodwin given his presser? I’m guessing it was all about learnings etc? Anything worthwhile in it?

[Stiff Arm 4,412]

Dogga checked out. Preoccupied with packing up and moving.

Takes very few contested marks for a guy his size and leap

 

[Lord Nev 13,511]

3 minutes ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Has Goodwin given his presser? I’m guessing it was all about learnings etc? Anything worthwhile in it?

Didn't seem super happy, and not overly enthusiastic about Weid IMO.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/805773/full-post-match-r19-demons?videoId=805773&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1658582886001&references=AFL_MATCH:3968

[mo64 5,209]

1 minute ago, Clayton spirit said:

Jordon is a clear one too. I'd definitely include Viney, Kozzy and probably Clarry. Saw the best of May too early in the season, not quite as good post-injury

Brayshaw, Jordon, Viney have improved this year. Clarry, Kozzie, Fritsch. Langdon and Petty on par with last year. The rest of the team have slightly regressed, and a few have dropped badly.

Goody said at the start of the year that the players who missed out on the GF would drive the group forward. Casey are sitting unbeaten with 15 wins, and some should feel peeved with not getting rewarded with selection. 

[bing181 8,165]

6 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Didn't seem super happy, and not overly enthusiastic about Weid IMO.

Not overly enthusiastic re Weeds, but was positive enough about him - a bit different to last time when his comment was quite brutal, at least in that context.

[bing181 8,165]

6 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Clarry, Kozzie, Fritsch. Langdon and Petty on par with last year.

Don't agree re Langdon. He was clear AA last year, this year not so much. For me, hasn't been the same since the concussion. Only 5 kicks today and 165 metres gained. That's a big drop on what he was producing last year, and one of the (many?) factors in why we're not going as well.

[whatwhat say what 18,921]

without lever we really lacked leadership in the backline

i don't know / understand what's happened to may, but since he copped that concussion vs freo / at entrocote he's been a shell of his former self

on the one hand i thought petty was very good; on the other had 5 kicked on him

frustrating game to watch as i thought it was completely played on their terms - fast, open, lots of ball movement

it's not all doom and gloom - this season is crazy even and i think anyone from 2-10 is in with a chance if everything 'clicks' for them, but at the moment i think the cats are clear favourites

which is annoying as all hell

[mo64 5,209]

Just now, bing181 said:

Don't agree re Langdon. He was clear AA last year, this year not so much. For me, hasn't been the same since the concussion. Only 5 kicks today and 165 metres gained. That's a big drop on what he was producing last year, and one of the (many?) factors in why we're not going as well.

Langdon was ordinary tonight, but he also had a quiet stretch of games last year, which is why he didn't even make the AA squad. I think his form overall this year has matched last year.

[mo64 5,209]

2 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

without lever we really lacked leadership in the backline

i don't know / understand what's happened to may, but since he copped that concussion vs freo / at entrocote he's been a shell of his former self

on the one hand i thought petty was very good; on the other had 5 kicked on him

frustrating game to watch as i thought it was completely played on their terms - fast, open, lots of ball movement

it's not all doom and gloom - this season is crazy even and i think anyone from 2-10 is in with a chance if everything 'clicks' for them, but at the moment i think the cats are clear favourites

which is annoying as all hell

Are you sure Petty was on JUH? When you watch his 5 goals, only once was he manned up, and Tomlinson was on him.

[whatwhat say what 18,921]

2 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Are you sure Petty was on JUH? When you watch his 5 goals, only once was he manned up, and Tomlinson was on him.

switched and changed i thought - petty when he was up the ground further and moving back i50, which was when i thought it got lost, with tomlinson and petty not getting the 'change over' right

Edited July 23, 2022 by whatwhat say what

[Bitter but optimistic 21,247]

34 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Let's both just move on hey. No one wants to read this kind of back and forth.

Hey Nev !!! Take me off block for a minute - I just sent you a love letter

[Gawndy the Great 7,344]

5 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

without lever we really lacked leadership in the backline

i don't know / understand what's happened to may, but since he copped that concussion vs freo / at entrocote he's been a shell of his former self

on the one hand i thought petty was very good; on the other had 5 kicked on him

frustrating game to watch as i thought it was completely played on their terms - fast, open, lots of ball movement

it's not all doom and gloom - this season is crazy even and i think anyone from 2-10 is in with a chance if everything 'clicks' for them, but at the moment i think the cats are clear favourites

which is annoying as all hell

In the washup of the season, I think that one event is going to be bought up a lot. And fair enough, I think it has completely screwed Mays confidence and standing in the team. That is why he is so fumbly and the more he [censored] it up, the more pressure he is going to feel.

It doesn’t take much to unsettle a team and I think this is going to haunt him for quite some time. I never would have pictured it at the time, but that was what changed the entire course of our season.

[Dr. Gonzo 22,415]

3 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Hey Nev !!! Take me off block for a minute - I just sent you a love letter

If he's blocked you - he won't see this 😂

[Bitter but optimistic 21,247]

Just now, Dr. Gonzo said:

If he's blocked you - he won't see this 😂

Good point Docter!