3 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Seem to work pretty well in 2021 and allowed us to get 2nd this year, so I would say your comment that it doesn’t work is completely wrong 

I think the 'bombing it in to our forward pocket or kicking religiously down the line' to max was when we were playing at our worst. This year I thought we defaulted to those tactics when our mid field was getting beaten and so we would rely on the talls to get it done. Only problem was that they often didn't. Max from the kick out, down the line or in the pocket is no doubt a luxury that often helps us but as a primary go to was, imo, a poor tactic. Our forwards stopped leading, big packs would crunch maxy all day long. Happy to be proven wrong but I certainly wouldn't be drafting to try and make that tactic a mainstay of our game. 

6 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

And they could literally call the development "Demonland"...

The developers of course would be required under copyright to pay substantial royalties to this site.

9 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Seem to work pretty well in 2021 and allowed us to get 2nd this year, so I would say your comment that it doesn’t work is completely wrong 

It worked in 2021 partly because one of the best fitness boss’ in the world had us trained to the second. We were fittest in the league by a large margin come finals time 2021. Make no mistake, that was a critical ingredient in why we won the flag. 

It didn’t work in the second half of this year, and we only came 2nd due to the 10-0 start. 

when we are not at an elite level of fitness, carrying injuries or whatever, the plan just doesn’t work. 

Can Selwyn replicate Burgess’ success. Time will tell. 

 

Edited October 1, 20223 yr by 1964_2

5 hours ago, monoccular said:

The developers of course would be required under copyright to pay substantial royalties to this site.

Especially after we give them fifteen different sets of complete instructions on how they should be doing it / should have done it.

Pies looking for a pick in the top 25 

6 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Pies looking for a pick in the top 25 

Source? 

20 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Pies looking for a pick in the top 25 

No Way just no way, They cannot afford NOT to offload him, Cmon dees call their Bluff!

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

No Way just no way, They cannot afford NOT to offload him, Cmon dees call their Bluff!

Early to mid 20’s is a steal 

Edited October 2, 20223 yr by Demons11

Just now, Demons11 said:

Early to mid 20’s is a steal 

NO its not. its a friggen salary Dump for Chrismas sakes. Noone else want him give em a third rounder time to be hard bargainers!!

8 minutes ago, picket fence said:

NO its not. its a friggen salary Dump for Chrismas sakes. Noone else want him give em a third rounder time to be hard bargainers!!

One of the great things about the Dees list management team is that they are fair and reasonable.  They know what they want and pay fair value which is why they get deals done. 
If you hold a team over a barrel then it bites you in the [censored] down the track. 

Edited October 2, 20223 yr by Demons11

16 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Early to mid 20’s is a steal 

Exactly.

On one hand it’s a salary dump.

On the other hand, we have no back up ruckman and his obviously the best available.

 

49 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Pies looking for a pick in the top 25 

Give ‘em pick 26

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

NO its not. its a friggen salary Dump for Chrismas sakes. Noone else want him give em a third rounder time to be hard bargainers!!

Oh dear

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Pies looking for a pick in the top 25 

Would be win if we can maintain 2 x 1st rounders for Jackson and trade up our 33 from beford/Hunt compensation for a pick that nets us Grundy.

Grundy at $6-700k for pick 25 would be the bargain of the year. 

17 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Grundy at $6-700k for pick 25 would be the bargain of the year. 

In 2016

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Early to mid 20’s is a steal 

Trade Bedford & our pick 33 to GWS, for their pick 21. Then give 21 to the Pies, for Grundy. So the trade would be Bedford & 33 for Grundy. Great deal imo

Edited October 2, 20223 yr by Matt

People saying we don’t need him & that we hold the upper hand are delusional. We have 0 ruck depth, not even a VFL standard back up & there is no chance of getting a ready made kid from the draft. If Max goes down we will have a VFL plodder like the Weid rucking which would be the worst result possible. Collingwood know we are desperate, we have met him & said we want him, so we have shown our hand. As a few have said giving up a pick in the 20s is nothing if it makes us stronger & we know what we are getting. We cannot afford not to get him, so we won’t be playing hardball in any way at all, it’ll get done reasonably early so we can move on without the bluff & [censored].

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

No Way just no way, They cannot afford NOT to offload him, Cmon dees call their Bluff!

Pickett, while this approach could work and we 'win' the trade, such a transactional approach harm our reputation of being reasonable in negotiating trades and is likely to bite us on future trade.

Like others have suggested if we can trade up on of our later picks to an early / mid second rounder through the loss of Hunt and Bedford.  through the Jackson trade we should then have a early first round pick this year and an extra first round next year.

10 minutes ago, Matt said:

We should be able to get 21 from GWS, for Bedford & our pick 33. Then give 21 it to the Pies. Fair deal imo

GWS will give 21 for Bedford and 33??

Where do we sign!!!!????

Edited October 2, 20223 yr by jumbo returns

2 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

GWS will give 21 for Bedford and 33??

Where do we sign!!!!????

You don't think it could happen?

1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

Give ‘em pick 26

It’d be like paying the annoying mate you owe $100 in 5c pieces.

3 minutes ago, Matt said:

You don't think it could happen?

Not sure of the points value of a climb up from 3rd round into early second round but it is hard to believe Bedford would be worth anywhere near that much.

5 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

GWS will give 21 for Bedford and 33??

Where do we sign!!!!????

If GWS get what they're asking for for Hopper, Taranto, and Bruhn they'll have six first round picks.   I think there's a real good chance they trade out pick 21. 

Word is the Grundy deal will happen early. With GWS and the Tigers making a deal tomorrow, Im hopeful
 

A great win if the club can make it happen!