Question about Grundy, bit of talk about him going to his third club next year. In the event this happens would the Pies still have to pay part of his contract or would Melbourne have to pay. Or of course would all three clubs have to agree to something. I hope he stays as he has a few years on Max and we are going to need him. 

54 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

Question about Grundy, bit of talk about him going to his third club next year. In the event this happens would the Pies still have to pay part of his contract or would Melbourne have to pay. Or of course would all three clubs have to agree to something. I hope he stays as he has a few years on Max and we are going to need him. 

The talk has come from GW bringing it up on Crunch time today and to put it in his words "Sure, Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant tag teamed sometimes but they are better opponents"

It's not happening, we are not trading him. 

In a perfect world, we don’t [censored] Gawn in rounds 1-16. We keep him fresh and then he can do what he did last night when it really matters. Gawn doing Gawn things in September, brings us that much closer to a flag. 

That is where Grundy’s value is. If we can get from him what we get from Ben Brown, that would be the best outcome. 

He’s also fantastic insurance if Max goes down. He’s a bloody good ruckman with great follow up. Not amazing overhead but can bring it to ground. 

It took a year for May and Lever to get their chemistry, it's gonna take a year for Gawn and Grundy

One good thing is Grundy has kept Gawn fresher for the run into finals. So he's done his job in that regard.

On 7/14/2023 at 3:52 PM, Jaded No More said:

I suppose because we invested a big chunk of our TPP in him and had a clear plan of how we wanted the partnership to work, which hasn’t come to fruition. 

Grundy is a decorated and experienced player, and I doubt he wants to play for Casey. 
This was always going to be a big story. 

It is a complete nothing burger.

Yze said pre game on abc he'll be back. Gawn said the same post match x 2 as did goody in his post match presser.

The afl football media is an embarrassing, parochial, backwater joke.

 

31 minutes ago, binman said:

It is a complete nothing burger.

Yze said pre game on abc he'll be back. Gawn said the same post match x 2 as did goody in his post match presser.

The afl football media is an embarrassing, parochial, backwater joke.

How can you say that it’s a ‘nothing burger’?

I literally said at the time of the trade that we would be better off getting a fwd who can ruck and help solve our gaping tall fwd problems moving into next year. And here we are 6 weeks out from finals and Grundy is playing VFL.

The hopes of the coaching staff aside - they are a part of the MC that dropped him and abandoned the ruck duality.

The media may beat this up to within an inch of our lives but it’s not nothing whenever you have $650k playing in the VFL.

13 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

I don’t see it happening with this FD. They believe they can get it going, and also ‘sunk cost’ is more than just picks and TPP it’s relationships and promises made. 

Grundy should look at replacing JVR this season because their forward craft are at similar capabilities. But forget about next year - JVR will street past him. 

Anyone have any info from today's praccy match?

If Port came knocking and offered us Georgiades and some steak knives who knows. You never say never 

2 hours ago, binman said:

It is a complete nothing burger.

Yze said pre game on abc he'll be back. Gawn said the same post match x 2 as did goody in his post match presser.

The afl football media is an embarrassing, parochial, backwater joke.

I remember when both Gawn and Goody said the Gawn/Pruess combo will work as well.

Funny that.

2 hours ago, Cheesy D. Pun said:

Anyone have any info from today's praccy match?

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/afl/news/brodie-grundy-dropped-melbourne-demons-ruckman-vfl-updates-casey/cociomgadgcv8516emhev84a

You've got to admire his determination:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/a-responsibility-to-get-better-demons-coach-explains-shock-grundy-axing-20230714-p5dof7.html

I have yet to see him play a bad game for us

Grundy was worth a punt for a 2nd rounder, but the reality is he was always going to be more valuable to us in the back-end of his contract (to cover Gawn) rather than in his first couple seasons 

Gonna be interesting to see what happens at the end of the year should he not get back in the side 

I wish him all the luck going.

Seems like a decent bloke with genuine intent. 

1 goal 16 possession 6 marks today

So the more immediate talking point is what needs to happen with our KPF stocks in order for our line-up, up forward to work (in terms of being a premiership threat)

Can Grundy force his way into the team up forward and does he need to be 'that' good to replace JVR or Brown?

What does Brown or JVR need to do to maintain their spots? 

And what about Schache? 

Is T-Mac done for the year?

Does Melksham rediscovering his form change the make-up of the forward line going forward

And then there's Fritsch coming back in a month (?)

After initially being quite shocked with the Grundy back to Casey in the forward line move, I can now see what the MC are looking for ... but whether Grundy up forward can work or not is questionable

Watching last night it's noticeable that JVR isn't getting to the right spots due to his inexperience.  He's a step behind instead of being a step ahead.  He's got a bit of go in him but he's raw

With Brown, he's just not the Brown of old.  So he's a step behind but that's due to a body that can't quite do what it once could do

So again, does Grundy have to be all that good in order to snag a KPF spot? 

16 possessions, 6 marks and a goal today is hardly startling but it is a start

 

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

That’s a very stupid belief Gerard.

We have no real backup for Max other than Grundy atm.

Verall is not ready and why kill JVR and hurt his forward game, going up against much bigger experienced ruckmen. Tom Mac is injured a lot now and is close to the end of his AFL career.

Also how would Max have played last night, if he had already played most of every game to date?

Think you are way off the mark Gerard.

15 minutes ago, Macca said:

So the more immediate talking point is what needs to happen with our KPF stocks in order for our line-up, up forward to work (in terms of being a premiership threat)

Can Grundy force his way into the team up forward and does he need to be 'that' good to replace JVR or Brown?

What does Brown or JVR need to do to maintain their spots? 

And what about Schache? 

Is T-Mac done for the year?

Does Melksham rediscovering his form change the make-up of the forward line going forward

And then there's Fritsch coming back in a month (?)

After initially being quite shocked with the Grundy back to Casey in the forward line move, I can now see what the MC are looking for ... but whether Grundy up forward can work or not is questionable

Watching last night it's noticeable that JVR isn't getting to the right spots due to his inexperience.  He's a step behind instead of being a step ahead.  He's got a bit of go in him but he's raw

With Brown, he's just not the Brown of old.  So he's a step behind but that's due to a body that can't quite do what it once could do

So again, does Grundy have to be all that good in order to snag a KPF spot? 

16 possessions, 6 marks and a goal today is hardly startling but it is a start

 

If he was playing as a pure fwd as is suggested I’d say that is pretty decent isn’t it? 

I think Grundy is good enough to be a useful forward 50%, ruck 30%, bench 20%

2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

If Port came knocking and offered us Georgiades and some steak knives who knows. You never say never 

The ruck position itself is overrated. We get value from Gawn in his ground coverage. His game yesterday is more the exception- but it doesn’t happen every game. 

 

4 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

If he was playing as a pure fwd as is suggested I’d say that is pretty decent isn’t it? 

Yes, if so, it's quite a good start

Of course, we're looking for the goals, Wellsy, but 16 possessions, 6 marks and 1 goal is better than 8 touches, 3 marks and 2 goals (IMV)