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Trade and Free Agency rumours


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19 minutes ago, Turner said:

Duncan 32/33 menegola 30 and injured, touhy 32 going 33. issie smith 33 going 34. and they just slot in a 24 yo hb/mid to replace them for the next 5+ years. same deal with henry just walks into the rohan spot in 12/24 months time

Reckon this is how the Geelong dream is sold. They have a lot of positions which will be vacant through age, we have positions which will be vacant only through form. 

Work harder or work smarter?

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14 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

On top of resigning an injury prone Joel Smith to a 2 deal.

Go melbourne..

I wish salaries were public so I could confirm but I hope Smith, Melk and Hibbo are all in the 200k range, where Hunt as a free agent is probably getting 400k and a longer deal.

It’s worth wondering if keeping any of the 3 we are supposedly keeping is worthwhile anyway but they might be in a different salary category to Hunt.

Hopefully we see some action for at least one player in the tall forwards or outside run category so we can see the trade off in losing Hunt.

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41 minutes ago, Redleg said:

These are strange times.

We are prepared to let a 27 year old player, with pace, who has played 40 games the last 2 years leave and keep a 33 year old for one last year and a 32 year old likewise, both of whom who are probably cooked.

Moving forward, to me it makes no sense at all.

What makes you think we are prepared to let Hunt go? Unrestricted FA and seems to want to leave

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32 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Yep. I know we are on the outside looking in and we will have a better understanding today fortnight, but it does seem like we are unbalancing the list.

My concern is that we could have a lot of players who could be cooked physically or career wise next year. BBB, T Mac, Tomlinson, J.Smith, Weid, Hibbo, Melk, Grundy. On top of that we had numerous key players have leg/foot injuries this year.

If we don't get any best 22 players in aside from Grundy, we'll be relying on quite of few of our kids who have yet to debut.

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15 minutes ago, mo64 said:

My concern is that we could have a lot of players who could be cooked physically or career wise next year. BBB, T Mac, Tomlinson, J.Smith, Weid, Hibbo, Melk, Grundy. On top of that we had numerous key players have leg/foot injuries this year.

If we don't get any best 22 players in aside from Grundy, we'll be relying on quite of few of our kids who have yet to debut.

Yep, despite 2 years of success, seems we can't attract more than average interest from the market place. Bit disappointing

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Interesting that, unless I've missed it, our alleged "in the know" posters have gone to ground lately. Which could mean a few things.

1. We have something brewing that the club is keeping tight lipped on.

2. Outside of Grundy we have no other trade targets.

3. The posters are bored of the same old player discussion/rumour threads and view most demonland discussions as the quality of trade radio.

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3 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Interesting that, unless I've missed it, our alleged "in the know" posters have gone to ground lately. Which could mean a few things.

1. We have something brewing that the club is keeping tight lipped on.

2. Outside of Grundy we have no other trade targets.

3. The posters are bored of the same old player discussion/rumour threads and view most demonland threads as the quality of trade radio.

2 and 3.

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1 hour ago, DubDee said:

What makes you think we are prepared to let Hunt go? Unrestricted FA and seems to want to leave

He is only leaving for a bigger and/or longer contract that we won't offer. Therefore we are prepared to let him go.

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1 hour ago, mo64 said:

My concern is that we could have a lot of players who could be cooked physically or career wise next year. BBB, T Mac, Tomlinson, J.Smith, Weid, Hibbo, Melk, Grundy. On top of that we had numerous key players have leg/foot injuries this year.

If we don't get any best 22 players in aside from Grundy, we'll be relying on quite of few of our kids who have yet to debut.

ATM, without knowing what we do over the next two weeks, that is a concern.

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1 hour ago, DubDee said:

What makes you think we are prepared to let Hunt go? Unrestricted FA and seems to want to leave

It’s his last big contract and despite being quick there’s little else and his poor decision making really gets amplified in big games.

The FD will be well aware of his limitations and only offer him what they consider he’s worth

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I like it that not much is coming out of our FD. Have trust in them as they have done pretty good last few years and very confident they will do well again. Who knows a smokey may well come to the Dees other than Grundy.

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17 minutes ago, Redleg said:

He is only leaving for a bigger and/or longer contract that we won't offer. Therefore we are prepared to let him go.

I reckon we would like to keep him but we won’t be throwing our salary cap off for him

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So as far I can tell:

possible outgoings:

Jackson, Hunt, Bedford, Weid plus Mitch Brown, Rosman, Majak

Possible incomings:

Grundy. 2 x picks from Freo.

I hope to god we are going to inject some new proven talent. But who and how? Good teams keep building their list, identify weakness and act on it. Are we doing that? 

 

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7 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

So as far I can tell:

possible outgoings:

Jackson, Hunt, Bedford, Weid plus Mitch Brown, Rosman, Majak

Possible incomings:

Grundy. 2 x picks from Freo.

I hope to god we are going to inject some new proven talent. But who and how? Good teams keep building their list, identify weakness and act on it. Are we doing that? 

 

We've said we aren't trading Weid apparently.

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1 hour ago, Pennant St Dee said:

It’s his last big contract and despite being quick there’s little else and his poor decision making really gets amplified in big games.

The FD will be well aware of his limitations and only offer him what they consider he’s worth

We don't have many quick ball carriers which is one of the reasons for our slow ball movement out of defence. Aside from Hunt who else has the speed to run and carry out of defence. Hunt does have his weaknesses but that speed is an asset we don't have much of in our defence,

Bedford would be a loss for same reason. He has speed and good footwork which can get him out of trouble and into space.

If they're both going then we need to be bringing in some speed in draft/trade or fa.

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15 hours ago, Vineytime said:

Hoping we improve the list to keep up with Bris, Rich , Geel reported recruits. Jacko out, Grundy in… is that enough for us to still be a serious threat next yr?

I know MFC often operate in stealth these days but please give us at least 1 more established forward or upgrade picks to bring in some more top 10 talent..

Van Rooyen, Howes, Turner....

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Picks are a gamble that could pay off at a time when our once in a generation midfield talent has passed its window.

Id like to see us have a crack at Mitch Georgiades even though he is a WA boy he could be ideal. 

Jackson to WC for a first rounder and Oscar Allen also works for me haha

Naughton would be the one Id also love but seems unlikely. 

Grundy does not overly excite me tbh.

Another weird idea - Weid as a key position defender?

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32 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

So as far I can tell:

possible outgoings:

Jackson, Hunt, Bedford, Weid plus Mitch Brown, Rosman, Majak

Possible incomings:

Grundy. 2 x picks from Freo.

I hope to god we are going to inject some new proven talent. But who and how? Good teams keep building their list, identify weakness and act on it. Are we doing that? 

 

Potentially Josh Corbett as well...

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1 hour ago, Nascent said:

Interesting that, unless I've missed it, our alleged "in the know" posters have gone to ground lately. Which could mean a few things.

1. We have something brewing that the club is keeping tight lipped on.

2. Outside of Grundy we have no other trade targets.

3. The posters are bored of the same old player discussion/rumour threads and view most demonland discussions as the quality of trade radio.

My bet is number 1, if in doubt always take the topweight.

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8 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

Potentially Josh Corbett as well...

not that exciting is it though. Who did we add after winning the flag? Cats are going to add 3 possible top talents and also acquire 3 picks inside 20. 

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12 minutes ago, MadAsHell said:

Potentially Josh Corbett as well...

A 26 year old 190cm battler on the fringe at a bottom club with 33 goals total from 36 matches at AFL level. He’s basically a Weid downgrade, but smaller. If we’re chasing him and expecting him to play a meaningful role while clubs like Geelong and Tigers are adding gun talent best and fairest winner level players, then we’re stuffed.

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4 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

not that exciting is it though. Who did we add after winning the flag? Cats are going to add 3 possible top talents and also acquire 3 picks inside 20. 

It's not like for like though, is it?

When we won our premiership, we were aiming to be the first premiership team to ever play another game together. It'd never happened before, such was the age profile of our list.

Oliver and Petracca not yet at their physical peaks, Lever, Kozzy and Jackson at the time etc.

Compare this with Geelong and they face the very real possibility of falling off a cliff next year due to their age profile.

They need to replenish their list. We didn't. We were undone by injury to our best players. Had Geelong suffered a similar fate, they don't win the flag. As simple as that.

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