3 minutes ago, A F said:

If he wants to go... why would we trade Jackson?

Jackson is out of contract. Naughton is not. 

2 hours ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Naughton is contracted until the end of 2024. There is no way in hell the Dogs are letting him go anywhere. 

There is no decent maturing key forward coming out of contract this year. Nor does it appear that there is much key forward action at the top end of the draft.  I think we will need to play a longer game to solve this one and work to line up the right target for 2024. 

 

100%, and he's a WA boy so there's no go home factor. The Dogs played hard ball with Dunkley, and he stayed. They'll do the same with Naughton, even if the rumour is true.

It's a million to one that he plays for the Dees next year, so factoring him into the Jackson trade is a pointless exercise.

37 minutes ago, McStaff said:

I know for a fact that WCE are heavily into Naughton to replace Kennedy. 

That's more plausible. They have draft capital and he is a WA boy.

12 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Jackson is out of contract. Naughton is not. 

Of course, but they both want to go. No point in keeping someone if they want to go. Get the best deal you can while you've still got skne leverage.

Our leverage in the Jackson scenario is allegedly LJ wanting to ensure the deal is fair.

49 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Why would Dogs let him go?

Of course we would be thrilled to get him, but surely he is untouchable.

All of this is hypothetical and says nothing for the fact where oh where are we going to fit Naughton inside our Salary Cap. We have to keep what we have got and do some development.

Lets get real ,some people are in la la Land !!

I've just watched Nick Larkey kick his 4th goal 5 minutes before hslf time agsinst Sydney.

I'd be moving the kitchen sink for this bloke.

Dogs losing naughton would be classic Dogs

could well happen but unlikely this year

1 hour ago, Dogga said:

Shower thought of the day: I wonder if this is the club's way of finding an inside rumour leak? 🤔

The old Prince William trick!

11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I've just watched Nick Larkey kick his 4th goal 5 minutes before hslf time agsinst Sydney.

I'd be moving the kitchen sink for this bloke.

I'm not watching the game, but yes he is. would love Larkey. I fully expect we'll have an answer on the KPF problem come the end of this year. We may have to pay up, but it will likely signal that we're all in for a 5 year push or a longer term push.

Does this make general sense...

Naughton to WCE for pick 1/2

Lobb plus Freo first pick (16) to Dogs for pick 1/2 to Freo

Freo's pick 1/2 plus Meek to MFC for Jackson

Edited August 7, 20222 yr by Diamond_Jim

2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Does this make general sense...

Naughton to WCE for pick 1/2

Lobb plus Freo first pick (16) to Dogs for pick 1/2 from Freo

Freo's pick 1/2 plus Meek to MFC for Jackson

Throw in Treacy and yes. Would mean you pick up a ruck and 2 key Vic forwards for Jacko as you would get Cadman.

Fun and games.

12 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Throw in Treacy and yes. Would mean you pick up a ruck and 2 key Vic forwards for Jacko as you would get Cadman.

Fun and games.

I see my trade as does yours values Jackson at more than Naughton so perhaps WCE would need to throw in a pot sweetener ( a mid level defender perhaps) or perhaps even the WCE second round pick

Edited August 7, 20222 yr by Diamond_Jim

3 hours ago, BW511 said:

Of all the clubs a key forward would want to get to, you’d have to think our style would have us at the bottom of the list.

Not many would want to go somewhere and be expected to get smashed by 2-3 defenders every contest and have all their shots from deep in the pockets.

i think they'd take a top i50 team though

1 hour ago, A F said:

It depends on our list management strategy.

Do we want to continue to bring in youngsters to extend our window beyond 5 years or do we go really hard over the next 5 years?

Already have Brown and TMac on the verge of retirement. Adding Gunston instead of another younger development player to partner with JVR and say Naughton will depend on the answer to the above question.

Gunston also has a checkered recent injury history, so we'd be gambling on 3 talls near 30 with injury clouds. Not great list strategy IMO.

No reason we can't do both. Pending medical exam, I view Gunstan as a serious upgrade to both Brown and McDonald and he'll be a free hit as an UFA. If we're lucky enough to have the rumours become true, we land Naughton, who at 22, will feature for the next 10 years in our forward line. Gunstan can then hand over the reigns to JvR on his retirement and our key position forwards are set for a decade. Imagine having the luxury of BBB and McDonald as depth instead of Weideman and M. Brown (no disrespect intended to these players).

If we don't land a younger key position target via trade such as Naughton, we should hopefully be in the position to draft either Cadman (unlikely) or Jefferson who can develop while Gunstan is playing with a combination of Fritsch and either McDonald/Brown and JvR pushing for selection. 

Can't believe we're getting Naughton hypotheticals 

Not a rumour but what are peoples thoughts on chasing Todd Marshall at the end of 2023. Vic boy who is out of contract then and can take a contested grab as well as chop out in the ruck. Only 23 as well.

7 minutes ago, adonski said:

Can't believe we're getting Naughton hypotheticals 

 

 

 

 

 

*I have about a 0.000001% belief that he'll be in demon colours next year. Is a nice fantasy though.

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4 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Not a rumour but what are peoples thoughts on chasing Todd Marshall at the end of 2023. Vic boy who is out of contract then and can take a contested grab as well as chop out in the ruck. Only 23 as well.

would take him over the king bros

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Does this make general sense...

Naughton to WCE for pick 1/2

Lobb plus Freo first pick (16) to Dogs for pick 1/2 to Freo

Freo's pick 1/2 plus Meek to MFC for Jackson

Lobb is partially a salary dump by Freo to accommodate Jackson. He's worth the Dogs 2nd pick + another pick swap. 

Pick 1/2 equates to pick 5 + pick 12. That's miles off Lobb and pick 16.

 

Nick Larkey would be handy next year

If Dogga leaves, we have draft pick/s to utilise

The Coll game is yet another example where we desperately needed another quality key forward 

North will build their forward line around Larkey. No way they let him leave unless he wants out in a contract year, and even then they should push him to the PSD and draft him again.

@WERRIDEEa best 22 involving Larkey, Naughton and Hogan please

Maybe throw in Gunston if you have time

 

49 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Not a rumour but what are peoples thoughts on chasing Todd Marshall at the end of 2023. Vic boy who is out of contract then and can take a contested grab as well as chop out in the ruck. Only 23 as well.

A taller Fritsch

55 minutes ago, adonski said:

@WERRIDEEa best 22 involving Larkey, Naughton and Hogan please

Maybe throw in Gunston if you have time

 

What about Lobb?

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I've just watched Nick Larkey kick his 4th goal 5 minutes before hslf time agsinst Sydney.

I'd be moving the kitchen sink for this bloke.

Absolutely. Love the souva. Just imagine the amount of mongrel we'd have in forward 50 in a year or two with Larkey, JVR and Pickett in there.