Trade and Free Agency rumours

[Demonstone 23,590]

His father Terry played for Footscray but I don't know if his kids did the usual thing of barracking for his old club.

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,964]

36 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

His father Terry played for Footscray but I don't know if his kids did the usual thing of barracking for his old club.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/i-d-rather-play-against-him-meet-the-de-konings-all-12-of-them-20220704-p5az16.html

[Nascent 9,345]

Isak Rankine officially requests a trade to Adelaide. Suns will most likely acquire pick 5 out of the trade leaving them with picks 5 and 7 for the draft. Might give us an opportunity to work our way up the draft.

Edited August 23, 2022 by Nascent

[Demon3 2,541]

9 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Isak Rankine officially requests a trade to Adelaide. Suns will most likely acquire pick 5 out of the trade leaving them with picks 5 and 7 for the draft. Might give us a good opportunity for us to work our way up the draft.

100%.

[Demonland 74,457]

 

[ElDiablo14 5,061]

Karl Amon has entered the free agency too

[Nascent 9,345]

3 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Karl Amon has entered the free agency too

He hasn't nominated a club yet has he? Hawthorn are the front runners allegedly but we are said to be in the conversation as well. As we're still playing finals, the longer he takes to nominate could be an indication that he's leaning towards the dees.

[ElDiablo14 5,061]

2 minutes ago, Nascent said:

He hasn't nominated a club yet has he? Hawthorn are the front runners allegedly but we are said to be in the conversation as well. As we're still playing finals, the longer he takes to nominate could be an indication that he's leaning towards the dees.

Yep he hasn't nominated a club yet...I just saw the tweet from Port saying they have parted ways with Karl Amon who will explore free agency 

[BigBadBustling 455]

2 minutes ago, Nascent said:

He hasn't nominated a club yet has he? Hawthorn are the front runners allegedly but we are said to be in the conversation as well. As we're still playing finals, the longer he takes to nominate could be an indication that he's leaning towards the dees.

Do we need him, and the salary that goes with it? I think Blake Howes will start 2023 Rnd1 as the other wingman, and stay there all year

[Red and Blue realist 2,063]

29 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Isak Rankine officially requests a trade to Adelaide. Suns will most likely acquire pick 5 out of the trade leaving them with picks 5 and 7 for the draft. Might give us an opportunity to work our way up the draft.

Gold Coast already have 2 extra second round picks and an extra in both the 3rd and 4th rounds. So they are flush with picks, so they'll be very actively in dealing this year. Brisbane are the ones who'll really need picks, so I'd imagine they'll talk to them first but I'm sure we'll be talking with them, it's a skill we've mastered like few others.

[Sydee 4,684]

1 minute ago, BigBadBustling said:

Do we need him, and the salary that goes with it? I think Blake Howes will start 2023 Rnd1 as the other wingman, and stay there all year

Really ? I've watched a fair bit of Casey this season and while he has shown a bit - physically looks a fair way off AFL ready to me 

 

[mo64 5,911]

With the finals bye this week, there's some clear air for players who are not the finals, to make their intentions clear. Rankine is first cab of the rank.

But if that player wants to go to a club currently in the finals, then they'll wait before declaring. So there isn't anything stopping Amon declaring that he wants to go to the Hawks. Maybe we are a chance.

Clarko mentioned On The Couch last night that most deals are agreed upon prior to the season's end. The clubs are constantly talking to opposition players, through their manager. The media like to speculate that there are multiple clubs in play for a certain player, but the reality is that the player has already locked in a club.

Edited August 23, 2022 by mo64

[Nascent 9,345]

7 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

Gold Coast already have 2 extra second round picks and an extra in both the 3rd and 4th rounds. So they are flush with picks, so they'll be very actively in dealing this year. Brisbane are the ones who'll really need picks, so I'd imagine they'll talk to them first but I'm sure we'll be talking with them, it's a skill we've mastered like few others.

Indeed.

Brisbane will likely trade down their 1st rounder for 2nd and 3rd round picks and Gold Coast are in the box seat there. Pick 5 and 7 plus potentially pick 12 if the Lions get knocked out by Richmond. Should Jackson go, Suns may unlock the key to getting us adequate compensation. 

[rpfc 29,030]

Just now, mo64 said:

With the finals bye this week, there's some clear air for players who are not the finals, to make their intentions clear. Rankine is first cab of the rank.

But if that player wants to go to a club currently in the finals, then they'll wait before declaring. So there isn't anything stopping Amon declaring that he wants to go to the Hawks. Maybe we are a chance.

Clarko mentioned On The Couch last night that most deals are agreed upon prior to the season's finished. The clubs are constantly talking to opposition players, through their manager. The media like to speculate that there are multiple clubs in play for a certain player, but the reality is that the player has already locked in a club.

And then the club has to agree a trade…

Enter Adrian Dodoro!

[binman 44,849]

On 8/11/2022 at 10:43 AM, —coach— said:

Think of all the extra frees we would get if we had Naughton!!!!!

I don't think that's how it works.

As soon as he is in red and blue he'll barely get another free for his career.

[BigBadBustling 455]

14 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Really ? I've watched a fair bit of Casey this season and while he has shown a bit - physically looks a fair way off AFL ready to me 

 

First year player and had significant injury concerns. Looks to me like he has the tools and the desire to succeed at AFL level. I know a lot of other clubs supporters that spotted him before the draft and were dirty we got him. A big off season and I think he'll explode next year.

[BigBadBustling 455]

2 minutes ago, binman said:

I don't think that's how it works.

As soon as he is in red and blue he'll barely get another free for his career.

BBB the perfect example of that

[deelusions from afar 1,894]

54 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Karl Amon has entered the free agency too

Since we were one of the clubs linked to him earlier in the year I've tried to watch him closely whenever I see a Port match.  I've obviously been watching the wrong matches but he hasn't been the classy player that everyone talks about - in fact I mostly have seen him turn it over / bomb it long.

I know I've obviously not seen his best but... do we really want him?

I guess as a free agent it costs nothing.  

I would rather the salary go to a key forward or ruck / forward though i think

[deelusions from afar 1,894]

27 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

First year player and had significant injury concerns. Looks to me like he has the tools and the desire to succeed at AFL level. I know a lot of other clubs supporters that spotted him before the draft and were dirty we got him. A big off season and I think he'll explode next year.

It's a big call - he seems lightly built at the moment.  And to get in the Melbourne team (especially on the wing) you need elite fitness (tank) and discipline to implement the game plan.  Would hope he gets there but would be surprised if its Rd 1 next year.

[SFebes 4,884]

Wheres our KPF coming from?

Ben King?

Unsure whos around that is ready to go and proven.

[binman 44,849]

33 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

BBB the perfect example of that

Too right.

That said I'd be happy if stevic umpired all our matches - does a good job.

 

[—coach— 3,496]

24 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

BBB the perfect example of that

I went back out of interest to see what the difference is.

2018 he got 48 frees for (22 games, 2.18 per game)

2019  44 (22 games, 2 per game)

2020 6 (9 games, 0.66 per game)

2021 11 (13 games, 0.84 per game)

2022 11 (16 games, 0.68 per game)

Quite a different

[MoeSyzlak 669]

1 hour ago, BigBadBustling said:

Do we need him, and the salary that goes with it? I think Blake Howes will start 2023 Rnd1 as the other wingman, and stay there all year

Not sure what this is based on to be honest. He’s played 7 games for Casey in 22. He’s averaging less that 14 disposals per game and kicked 3 goals. Hasn’t had one game over 20 possessions. 
 

That’s not screaming that he’s ready for the next level to me.

 

 

[demoniac 1,337]

Presume Crows will straight up offer Suns the two first rounders they demanded for Lever!

[Redleg 42,180]

20 minutes ago, demoniac said:

Presume Crows will straight up offer Suns the two first rounders they demanded for Lever!

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