1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

spends too much time in the sick bay

If we got 12-16 games out of him it would be worth it

Clutch game winner and proven goal kicker. Would make a difference in finals 

13 hours ago, manny100 said:

Do we have any Academy players we might draft this year?

Finn Emile-Brennan is an NGA prospect, theres a thread on him already.

11 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Johannison may have pace, but class is something he certainly doesn’t have

If hunt thinks about other opportunities i would certainly look at JJ and even if hunt stays i would too. bevo salad has him playing a half forward role whilst hannan?! plays at HB, JJ off a back flank is a much better distributer in my eyes and given hibbo's legs are a bit more weary JJ would add some effective burst and change of pace on a good value deal

On 7/28/2022 at 8:38 PM, rjay said:

Balta, from what I've seen is not much of a forward.

If I was the Tiges I would swap him with Gibcus who has some forward skills but hopefully they won't figure that one out.

I think they’ll draft or chase a forward and end up with Balta and Gibcus down back long term when the veterans clear out. 

Just heard from a mate with a 60/40 record of being correct on these things, apparently Grundy met with Gawn and Goody recently and deal has been reached for Grundy to Demons next year with Dogga heading home.

1 minute ago, —coach— said:

Just heard from a mate with a 60/40 record of being correct on these things, apparently Grundy met with Gawn and Goody recently and deal has been reached for Grundy to Demons next year with Dogga heading home.

I don't hate this but I don't love it either. Grundy has shown he has to play mostly 1st ruck, and Max's goal kicking isn't good enough for him to play predominantly forward.

Would also want Collingwood to pay part of his salary

1 minute ago, —coach— said:

Just heard from a mate with a 60/40 record of being correct on these things, apparently Grundy met with Gawn and Goody recently and deal has been reached for Grundy to Demons next year with Dogga heading home.

I’ve heard something similar but still a fair bit of water to go under the bridge.   It would be very interesting to see how a Gawn and Grundy combo would go.  

Please no, no deals with Collingwood we can not help free them from this terrible deal, Grundy sucks money would be much better spent on a key forward

7 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

I’ve heard something similar but still a fair bit of water to go under the bridge.   It would be very interesting to see how a Gawn and Grundy combo would go.  

Regardless of any club split of the contract, I wld think Grundy would need to accept a pay reduction. 
He has always looked a cultural mis-fit at Collingwood, surrounded by meat heads like Adams, De Goey and the general supporter base.

I'd only want to give a late first rounder.

9 minutes ago, Winter Dan said:

Regardless of any club split of the contract, I wld think Grundy would need to accept a pay reduction. 
He has always looked a cultural mis-fit at Collingwood, surrounded by meat heads like Adams, De Goey and the general supporter base.

I'd only want to give a late first rounder.

If we absorbed the large majority of his $, I'd want to only part ways with a 2nd. Unlike Treloar who was super consistent at Collingwood, Grundy has been down on form for 1.5 years.

It does present a good opportunity with whatever picks we receive from Freo. Allows us to be more aggressive to package them up to target a key forward in the draft if we have a new ruckman coming our way. 

Edited July 30, 20222 yr by adonski

34 minutes ago, —coach— said:

Just heard from a mate with a 60/40 record of being correct on these things, apparently Grundy met with Gawn and Goody recently and deal has been reached for Grundy to Demons next year with Dogga heading home.

Hope it’s more 40 than 60 and LJ stays put where he belongs with his mates at MFC - length of the Flemington straight more value than a washed up Grundy IMHO

Late second or 3rd round pick and 500k would be the most I’d go for Grundy.

I’d keep my eye on GWS. If Grundy goes there we should really look at Matt Flynn who we bidded on years ago. The right age to really go to the next level as a ruck and he has untapped forward potential

i've also heard talk of a Grundy chase. but we're wanting the Pies to pay a significant chunk of his salary, and the trade to be for a later pick, so a lot has to go our way for it to happen. 

I think it's a good option IF it can be done on our terms.

Just now, Dwight Schrute said:

i've also heard talk of a Grundy chase. but we're wanting the Pies to pay a significant chunk of his salary, and the trade to be for a later pick, so a lot has to go our way for it to happen. 

I think it's a good option IF it can be done on our terms.

 

I tend to get tired of all the talk about Jackson leaving.

Facts are we do not know what he is going to do just as "they" thought we were going to lose Brayshaw...

What also annoyed me was the "talk" during the Freo game by James Brayshaw and others treating it as a "given" that he is leaving.

On another happier note,...   The one kick, one Goal Weid surely must make way for JVR ? - Just saying... !!!

Anyway - This is my two Bobs worth.     I feel better now from within...

David

People are quick to forget that Grundy’s best put him in the top 3 ruckman in the game. He got a terrific financial deal, but that doesn’t mean we have to take that on.

If he came to us i’d feel pretty good about it. We forget as a footy club that 50% of the clubs don’t have one decent ruckman because ours is the leagues best. Long down the line to Grundy, then long down the line to Gawn as 2 get out of jail cards gets you a long way to the goals.

1 hour ago, Winter Dan said:

Regardless of any club split of the contract, I wld think Grundy would need to accept a pay reduction. 
 

That won’t happen and why should it?

13 minutes ago, Redleg said:

That won’t happen and why should it?

Exactly. Grundy won’t be taking a pay cut as he has a legal contract. It will be the money split between us & the filth that decides the trade,but he will still be getting the same $$ value either way.

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

I’ve heard something similar but still a fair bit of water to go under the bridge.   It would be very interesting to see how a Gawn and Grundy combo would go.  

Better than a Gawn and a non ruck fill in.

42 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Late second or 3rd round pick and 500k would be the most I’d go for Grundy.

I’d keep my eye on GWS. If Grundy goes there we should really look at Matt Flynn who we bidded on years ago. The right age to really go to the next level as a ruck and he has untapped forward potential

I hadn't thought of this but I reckon it is a very, very good idea.

But for the most part, I don't understand all the down talk about Grundy. Yes, his last 1.5 years have been flat and injury riddled but his tap work is better than Jackson's and around the ground he is like an extra very large midfielder. Him and Max would impossible for other teams to match in a similar way it is with Gawn and Jackson. 

The $ situation is the sticking point. Collingwood are in an atrocious mess re salary cap/player payments and I can't see them wanting to pay much of Grundy's salary at all, if he is traded. And having now signed all our main players for extended years, our own salary cap is going to need some management soon.

1 hour ago, —coach— said:

Just heard from a mate with a 60/40 record of being correct on these things, apparently Grundy met with Gawn and Goody recently and deal has been reached for Grundy to Demons next year with Dogga heading home.

Weid maybe goes to Pies if we add to our key forwards and they pay chunk of Grundy’s salary. Can see that. Or we just give a late pick.

Edited July 30, 20222 yr by Redleg

it's like people forget that on one knee grundy basically kickstarted the filth's season vs the peptides on anzac day - he was incredible in that game while clearly injured

that said...wouldn't want to pay anything close to $1m a year for the next five to him

i have faith in our footy dept to get it 'right'

23 minutes ago, Redleg said:

That won’t happen and why should it?

I guess because that might have to be the sacrifice Grundy has to make if he wants to play with Melb. No doubt he cld stay at the pies or go to another club that has oodles of salary cap space and retain the $. I just cant see melb paying huge coin for a second ruckman. 

Didnt we get BBB on a lower pay day, essentially because it was the right move\fit? Thats what im thinking of, but sure, he has a contract, BBB didnt. 

1 minute ago, Winter Dan said:

I guess because that might have to be the sacrifice Grundy has to make if he wants to play with Melb. No doubt he cld stay at the pies or go to another club that has oodles of salary cap space and retain the $. I just cant see melb paying huge coin for a second ruckman. 

Didnt we get BBB on a lower pay day, essentially because it was the right move\fit? Thats what im thinking of, but sure, he has a contract, BBB didnt. 

5 years of contract.

10 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

But for the most part, I don't understand all the down talk about Grundy. Yes, his last 1.5 years have been flat and injury riddled but his tap work is better than Jackson's and around the ground he is like an extra very large midfielder. Him and Max would impossible for other teams to match in a similar way it is with Gawn and Jackson. 

The issue with Grundy is some of the things he does well that result in big stats aren’t often valuable, especially if he’s off his best.
 

He gets a lot of hit outs but he’s not tall and doesn’t jump, so they’re very predictable and don’t result in quality clearances. He gets a lot of disposals but they are messy contested possessions. Often times he’s just nicking disposals that should be in the hands of someone like Pendlebury or Sidebottom.

Apart from the huge difference in salary the Pies prefer Darcy Cameron because he can play forward, he’s a better mark and better tap ruck who keeps it simple in his role. 

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The issue with Grundy is some of the things he does well that result in big stats aren’t often valuable, especially if he’s off his best.
 

He gets a lot of hit outs but he’s not tall and doesn’t jump, so they’re very predictable and don’t result in quality clearances. He gets a lot of disposals but they are messy contested possessions. Often times he’s just nicking disposals that should be in the hands of someone like Pendlebury or Sidebottom.

Apart from the huge difference in salary the Pies prefer Darcy Cameron because he can play forward, he’s a better mark and better tap ruck who keeps it simple in his role. 

not tall? 203cm is pretty big