Jump to content

Featured Replies

4 minutes ago, rpfc said:

He doesn’t need to ‘fire’ - he needs to play his role. No one else can with TMac out. That is his starting expectation and pass mark.

Might not have been the best term to use, replace it with 'perform'. I'm not expecting a bag of goals by any stretch, but he's a non-contributor at present.

 
13 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

If that fat oily [censored] Hawkins tries injuring May again I give Viney full permission to break both his kneecaps. 

A spear tackle will do nicely 😁

Goody said it'll be a finals type game, someone tell Gary Rohan

 
8 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

but he's a non-contributor at present.

That's simply not true.

As if goody would pick a player who is not contributing

43 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

That's classic straight bat Goody though. Personally I don't think you judge how the tall forwards are performing based purely on total shots on goal. Don't think you'd find many who would say they're happy with Ben Brown's form and fact is he has barely contributed to the forward line even taking into account non-scoring efforts.

We need him in reasonable form by finals, if he can't find it this week then it's back to Casey IMO.

We must remember that BB is our most accurate kick for goal (closely followed by BF). It should not be underestimated. 


I know it has already been said but Chandler with 5 goals and a bucket of possessions doesnt even make it as an emergency

Hope jacko and Gawn are fully fit....

10 minutes ago, binman said:

That's simply not true.

As if goody would pick a player who is not contributing

He doesn't have much option atm. At least one of BBB, Mitch or Weid needs to be picked, but none are offering much presently. BBB has the best record and seems the best bet for backing into form, that's why he's picked this week IMO.

You don't really believe out of form senior players are never picked purely out of necessity and/or trying to find form right?

Does my head in that some want BB out and Weid in, what do they think Weid can do that BB isn't ?

 

That is a pretty strong side

question.  Is it our finals side ? 

Tmac will need a couple of games to get match fit and up to speed.  Don’t think he will be available. 

really looking to see how we match up against jeelong. 2nd match up in last three weeks the top two.  I think we should expect some more great games and prevail in them all. 
Go Dees 

14 minutes ago, Jontee said:

I know it has already been said but Chandler with 5 goals and a bucket of possessions doesnt even make it as an emergency

Hope jacko and Gawn are fully fit....

5 goals against very weak opposition means jacks... though.

Edited by drysdale demon
spelling


8 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

He doesn't have much option atm. At least one of BBB, Mitch or Weid needs to be picked, but none are offering much presently. BBB has the best record and seems the best bet for backing into form, that's why he's picked this week IMO.

You don't really believe out of form senior players are never picked purely out of necessity and/or trying to find form right?

Ben Brown has been OK the last 3 games I think. Much better than his previous run of games. It's difficult being the only key forward defenders have to worry about and it would be great if he can clunk a couple of extra marks per game but as long as he's not getting outmarked and is bringing the footy to ground then he's playing his role.

10 minutes ago, loges said:

Does my head in that some want BB out and Weid in, what do they think Weid can do that BB isn't ?

Eat a steak.

2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Ben Brown has been OK the last 3 games I think. Much better than his previous run of games. It's difficult being the only key forward defenders have to worry about and it would be great if he can clunk a couple of extra marks per game but as long as he's not getting outmarked and is bringing the footy to ground then he's playing his role.

I disagree with all the posters who have got it in their heads that Brown's only job is 'bring the ball to ground'. I think that's used by Goody as a defence of his players and have 0 doubt he would want more  than that from our key forwards.

I agree it makes it harder for him being the only key forward, which is why my original comment was around that very thing.

1 hour ago, Older demon said:

 

Showers and 13 degrees forecast perhaps not a night for Big men. Cats will ruck Stanley and Blicavs and Hawkins in the forward line pushing everyone in the back

It’s going to be a wet ball so going shorter up forward makes sense. Our ground ball game has to be on. 

6 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

5 goals against very weak opposition means jacks... though.

And how many did melky kick against jacks?

Chandler would be bonkers not to request a trade


In 2020 our leading goal scorer was Fritsch with 22 goals.

We missed finals. We needed a key forward. We picked up a 200cm key forward with runs on the board. He played a key part in our premiership win last year and is currently on 20 goals for the current season, the second most for the club.

Our 2nd key forward is injured and posters on Demonland think Brown is lucky not to be dropped?

Edited by BAMF

Could we possibly put Thomo up forward with Brown?

IMO it would take some pressure off Brown as he is a big strong body and aggressive. 

Just a thought. 

27 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I disagree with all the posters who have got it in their heads that Brown's only job is 'bring the ball to ground'. I think that's used by Goody as a defence of his players and have 0 doubt he would want more  than that from our key forwards.

I agree it makes it harder for him being the only key forward, which is why my original comment was around that very thing.

That's not his only job, but it's a key part of his role and something Weideman has struggled to do. If we had someone better at playing that role they would be in, but we don't.

Besides Brown has kicked 5 goals in the last 3 games and really should've had two more. Would be nice if he was averaging 2 a game but it's not like he's been unsighted.

25 minutes ago, BAMF said:

In 2020 our leading goal scorer was Fritsch with 22 goals.

We missed finals. We needed a key forward. We picked up a 200cm key forward with runs on the board. He played a key part in our premiership win last year and is currently on 20 goals for the current season, the second most for the club.

Our 2nd key forward is injured and posters on Demonland think Brown is lucky not to be dropped?

Hes also missed 3 games (Essendon, Port and GWS) so you'd think he'd have at least another 4 or 5 goals from those 3 games.

He's averaging 1.7 goals a game. Ideally he'd be up around 2.5 goals a game but he's had to play a lone hand for the last 5 or 6 weeks since TMac went down. He can play better but I don't see him being dropped.

13 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

That's not his only job, but it's a key part of his role and something Weideman has struggled to do. If we had someone better at playing that role they would be in, but we don't.

Besides Brown has kicked 5 goals in the last 3 games and really should've had two more. Would be nice if he was averaging 2 a game but it's not like he's been unsighted.

Not sure what Weid has got to do with anything? Nowhere did I say he should be playing currently or that he's in better form than Brown. We're talking about Brown's form and lack of impact and how it might be hard for him to turn it around without proper tall forward support.

"Really should've had two more"? Come on mate.

So are you saying his form is fine? Fair bit of defending going on when all I've said is he needs to contribute more or he could be dropped to find form. We need him in form for finals. Weid and Mitch Brown aren't reliable options, TMac may not be around, Jackson isn't a forward, so whatever it takes to get him back up we need to do IMO. Currently he's not leading well, not taking contested marks, not applying pressure, and in a fair few games he's been outmarked so hasn't even brought it to ground.

I just want him in form for finals, we'll need him even more than last year.

Edited by Lord Nev


Ross Lyon just tipped against us again. He can’t stand us. I wonder what we have done to upset him.

And Lloydy picked against us because of our forward line issues.

Too funny. 

I'm waiting to see what sort of tape measure they are going to use. From when the ball leaves the foot, or just a plain guess.

And of course for us it's just play on anyway.

 

On the selection issues my beer is tasting normal.

Good team selections. Gawn and Jackson had to be selected if fit.

Our defence and the midfield are both in good form, well drilled and applying pressure all over the ground.

We have problems in attack but scoring enough goals doe not seem to be the problem. More the inconsistent nature of how we score them. I liked the move of Petracca playing more forward and I could see that being used more often this season. Give us flexibility and a point of difference. Brown, Fristch, resting ruck and/or Petracca with a fleet of smaller players feeding off them sounds like a good setup if they can make it work.

Last week we had 24 scoring shots with 14 goals from 10 goalkickers. The week before 37 scoring shots with 16 goals and, again, 10 goalkickers. 21 behinds against the Lions.

We must be getting something right.

 


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • NON-MFC: Round 13

    Follow all the action from every Round 13 clash excluding the Dees as the 2025 AFL Premiership Season rolls on. With Melbourne playing in the final match of the round on King's Birthday, all eyes turn to the rest of the competition. Who are you tipping to win? And more importantly, which results best serve the Demons’ finals aspirations? Join the discussion and keep track of the matches that could shape the ladder and impact our run to September.

      • Haha
      • Like
    • 91 replies
  • PREVIEW: Collingwood

    Having convincingly defeated last year’s premier and decisively outplayed the runner-up with 8.2 in the final quarter, nothing epitomized the Melbourne Football Club’s performance more than its 1.12 final half, particularly the eight consecutive behinds in the last term, against a struggling St Kilda team in the midst of a dismal losing streak. Just when stability and consistency were anticipated within the Demon ranks, they delivered a quintessential performance marked by instability and ill-conceived decisions, with the most striking aspect being their inaccuracy in kicking for goal, which suggested a lack of preparation (instead of sleeping in their hotel in Alice, were they having a night on the turps) rather than a well-rested team. Let’s face it - this kicking disease that makes them look like raw amateurs is becoming a millstone around the team’s neck.

    • 1 reply
  • CASEY: Sydney

    The Casey Demons were always expected to emerge victorious in their matchup against the lowly-ranked Sydney Swans at picturesque Tramway Oval, situated in the shadows of the SCG in Moore Park. They dominated the proceedings in the opening two and a half quarters of the game but had little to show for it. This was primarily due to their own sloppy errors in a low-standard game that produced a number of crowded mauls reminiscent of the rugby game popular in old Sydney Town. However, when the Swans tired, as teams often do when they turn games into ugly defensive contests, Casey lifted the standard of its own play and … it was off to the races. Not to nearby Randwick but to a different race with an objective of piling on goal after goal on the way to a mammoth victory. At the 25-minute mark of the third quarter, the Demons held a slender 14-point lead over the Swans, who are ahead on the ladder of only the previous week's opposition, the ailing Bullants. Forty minutes later, they had more than fully compensated for the sloppiness of their earlier play with a decisive 94-point victory, that culminated in a rousing finish which yielded thirteen unanswered goals. Kicks hit their targets, the ball found itself going through the middle and every player made a contribution.

    • 1 reply
  • REPORT: St. Kilda

    Hands up if you thought, like me, at half-time in yesterday’s game at TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs that Melbourne’s disposal around the ground and, in particular, its kicking inaccuracy in front of the goals couldn’t get any worse. Well, it did. And what’s even more damning for the Melbourne Football Club is that the game against St Kilda and its resurgence from the bottomless pit of its miserable start to the season wasn’t just lost through poor conversion for goal but rather in the 15 minutes when the entire team went into a slumber and was mugged by the out-of-form Saints. Their six goals two behinds (one goal less than the Demons managed for the whole game) weaved a path of destruction from which they were unable to recover. Ross Lyon’s astute use of pressure to contain the situation once they had asserted their grip on the game, and Melbourne’s self-destructive wastefulness, assured that outcome. The old adage about the insanity of repeatedly doing something and expecting a different result, was out there. Two years ago, the score line in Melbourne’s loss to the Giants at this same ground was 5 goals 15 behinds - a ratio of one goal per four scoring shots - was perfectly replicated with yesterday’s 7 goals 21 behinds. 
    This has been going on for a while and opens up a number of questions. I’ll put forward a few that come to mind from this performance. The obvious first question is whether the club can find a suitable coach to instruct players on proper kicking techniques or is this a skill that can no longer be developed at this stage of the development of our playing group? Another concern is the team's ability to counter an opponent's dominance during a run on as exemplified by the Saints in the first quarter. Did the Demons underestimate their opponents, considering St Kilda's goals during this period were scored by relatively unknown forwards? Furthermore, given the modest attendance of 6,721 at TIO Traeger Park and the team's poor past performances at this venue, is it prudent to prioritize financial gain over potentially sacrificing valuable premiership points by relinquishing home ground advantage, notwithstanding the cultural significance of the team's connection to the Red Centre? 

    • 4 replies
  • PREGAME: Collingwood

    After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Like
    • 340 replies
  • PODCAST: St. Kilda

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 2nd June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we have a chat with former Demon ruckman Jeff White about his YouTube channel First Use where he dissects ruck setups and contests. We'll then discuss the Dees disappointing loss to the Saints in Alice Springs.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

      • Shocked
      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 47 replies