Jump to content

Featured Replies

21 hours ago, adonski said:

Norf?

think the cats was one that had a look at him

 
9 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

been sent down a mad dad's army left turn as a result of this thread...loved watching that with my mad demon grandpa

 

to bring the topic back to howes, we looks like a membrey-type to me more than mackie

be interesting to see how they develop him cos his marking, decision-making, and his disposal all look good in that 2-min clip

 

My favorite character shared the same surname as jumper number two.

As for our new recruits, I can honestly say I believe the club can do no wrong with the selections they make these days.

We have winners on and off the field in this club.

9 minutes ago, Turner said:

think the cats was one that had a look at him

I heard Essendon were also keen and trying to trade up to get him

 
13 hours ago, DeeZone said:

Strange but I saw a bit of Chris Heffernan in him and that was a bit weird as I never think about Bombers, am I hallucinating.😳

I hope so.  An average player that looked better in a great team.

21 hours ago, Mach5 said:

 

Andrew Mackie did cross my mind. Hopefully better than him though.

Mackie played 280 games, was All Australian and played in 3 premierships. You are certainly aiming high with our pick 39. 


On 11/26/2021 at 4:49 PM, DeeSpencer said:

I'm not completely writing off Rosman but he was undeniably a risk-reward gamble and I'm comfortable to say he remains as that level of a gamble. I'm completely fine with the strategy of using a pick every now and then on a potential freak, but I still think it's long odds to pay off. Hunt did nothing for 2 years and whilst it's been bumpy since has paid off. I think Rosman's around that mark. JJ was underwhelming in year 1 too, so, sure I get your point. He was a December birthday with a lot of work to do physically. Rosman walked in as the best runner on the list and with some strenght.

The premiership has made a lot of people on here act like the club can't do any wrong and are completely infallible. Any hint of criticism gets jumped on at a rate of knots. 

I think I've been more loyal to Goodwin than the vast majority on here. I think Jason Taylor is a freak, but I don't think pointing out that whilst he's clearly in the best tier in the business he's still human. That doesn't mean I wouldn't worship the ground he walks on.

And my original point for where this Rosman discussion stemmed was that Jason Taylor has been like Bradman at recruiting but the wing has been a bit of a bodyline for him. Howes is a serious talent and a fairly decent pick in a deep enough draft and with JT's record I expect him to pay off where other moves at finding wingers have yet to pan out.

If JT can keep his perfect 2nd round draft record going and fill a need with a versatile winger than he'll only go higher up as a phenomenal recruiter and the team will only be stronger.

Rosman to be the BIG Improver next Season on what I saw at Training and at Casey!

2 hours ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

Mackie played 280 games, was All Australian and played in 3 premierships. You are certainly aiming high with our pick 39. 


He was a handy contributor, but he didn’t carry those sides. 

I think Howes will play games next year, maybe wing H/F, he looks like a very accomplished player to me.

Nice to see he was stoked to be at Melbourne, it wasn't that long ago that recruits would have been praying that we didn't pick them up. I'm proud of what this club has finally achieved, destination club, Hell Yeah.

 
15 hours ago, Mach5 said:


He was a handy contributor, but he didn’t carry those sides. 

Once again Mach 5 You  haven't specifically itemised your opinions on why a   3 Flag player, 280 games and AA is not a good/ great player. Just general dismissive comments.

What are  his weaknesses ? Remember he played those games in the golden era of the Cats when they had about half their side as AA.

Over to  you Mach 5 Details please.

PS This is exactly the career that every Demon fan would want for ( and has been commenced)  by Trent Rivers ( and possibly Jake Bowey ) and Christian Salem  is on his way to achieving. 

 

If we compare a player who has not played a game as yet to players with over 200 AFL games then we do the recruit a disservice.

He is at the start of career whilst the 200 game player has retired.

It is like recruiters compare the player they pick to past players which puts undue pressure on an 18 year old with potential but no record to backup the claims, what a player does at U18 level has no bearing on how he will perform at the highest level.

Training habits are good but you can train the house down but when it comes to the crunch be intimidated by the bigger bodies of your opponents.

There are players like Jake Bowey who are small in stature and fearless which makes him the exception.

Bowey's previous coaches probably told him during his pre-AFL he was too small and light framed but he was determined to prove them wrong.

Not every player recruited from the U18's will play at the highest level whether they are drafted to the main list or rookie list but those that do and play over 100 games should be applauded for their determination and willingness to train hard.

In the article about Max Gawn he believed that if he was not 208 cm ruckman he would have been cut from the list several times for his training habits, indiscretions and injuries.

Good luck to all our recruits in their endeavours to play their first game and have the long successful careers at the MFC. 

Edited by durango


On 11/27/2021 at 12:01 PM, FarNorthernD said:

“The Demons handed over picks No.22, 79 and a future second-round selection for the 23-year-old, while the Dockers gave up Langdon, pick No.26 and a future fourth-round selection”.

So to get Langdon we paid a future second rounder (pick 38 2020 - James Rowe?) and dropped 4 spots from 22 to 26 which got us Rivers (after dropping back a few more spots)

In summary we got an out and out bargain
 

100% agree. Langdon was just shrewd recruiting.

Paying top dollar is what the Saints gave for Brad Hill to run around having 10 touches a game.

4 hours ago, 58er said:

Once again Mach 5 You  haven't specifically itemised your opinions on why a   3 Flag player, 280 games and AA is not a good/ great player. Just general dismissive comments.

What are  his weaknesses ? Remember he played those games in the golden era of the Cats when they had about half their side as AA.

Over to  you Mach 5 Details please.

PS This is exactly the career that every Demon fan would want for ( and has been commenced)  by Trent Rivers ( and possibly Jake Bowey ) and Christian Salem  is on his way to achieving. 

 


Your obsession and over-analysis of my posts is flattering! Thanks for your insightful input as always.

If hoping one of our players is better than bloody Andrew Mackie (of all players in the history of the game) is a crime, lock me up. 
Heaven forbid.

I totally agree @Action Jackson and @FarNorthernD Langdon was an absolute steal. I do still wish people would stop evaluating individual trades though. There is no silverware available for the best individual deal. We trade to put together a list which, in its entirety, will win a flag.

 Individual trades like Lever or Langdon may look like overs or unders on their own but it absolutely doesn’t matter if it contributes to building a team that wins a flag.

i understand, when there is no silverware in the cabinet that supporters will evaluate the trades as though they are an end in themselves but now that we have at least one flag from all that trading I think we can look at the work in its entirety and evaluate the list that is currently in place, It’s cost is irrelevant. Every team spends as close as possible to its TPP. Every team uses all its picks every year (and sometimes more). There is no prize for saving $100k or moving up or down the order if it doesn’t get you another piece in the premiership team puzzle.

On 11/25/2021 at 10:40 PM, Deestroy All said:

Just waiting on the origins of BH’s name, if there are any acronyms, abbreviations or initialisms involved before I decide on whether or not he’s a good pick. 

What are your thoughts on the new Carona strain Omicron given it is an anagram for moronic?

Not sure where to put this, so here is as good as anywhere.

A question to anyone who has seen more of our new draftees than their highlights tape - how good are each boy's kicking skills on the Frost - Salem scale (Frost being 1 and Salem being 10)?


10 minutes ago, binman said:

Not sure where to put this, so here is as good as anywhere.

A question to anyone who has seen more of our new draftees than their highlights tape - how good are each boy's kicking skills on the Frost - Salem scale (Frost being 1 and Salem being 10)?

Can't get a good read on them. Looks neatly skilled without being a great kick for Howes. Decision making looks solid though.

Just now, adonski said:

Can't get a good read on them. Looks neatly skilled without being a great kick for Howes. Decision making looks solid though.

From his highlights Howe's technique look a bit clunky.

Certainly none of the new boys' kicking skill stand out from the highlight tapes the way Lauries and Bowey's did.

Howe is interesting in so far as he look a very similar player to Rosman - tall winger with good athleticism. Me thinks those boys might be competing for the same spot.  

15 minutes ago, binman said:

From his highlights Howe's technique look a bit clunky.

Certainly none of the new boys' kicking skill stand out from the highlight tapes the way Lauries and Bowey's did.

Howe is interesting in so far as he look a very similar player to Rosman - tall winger with good athleticism. Me thinks those boys might be competing for the same spot.  

I think Howes looks a much more natural footballer than Rosman

Edited by adonski


Howes kick doesn’t look too bad here:

Maybe not as fluid an action as the top end kicks, but decent touch and can get good distance.

I think McVee is the best kick of our 2021 draft crop. His foot skills look very, very good.

1 hour ago, binman said:

From his highlights Howe's technique look a bit clunky.

Certainly none of the new boys' kicking skill stand out from the highlight tapes the way Lauries and Bowey's did.

 

Definitely pokes at it. Outcomes don't seem too bad, but it's a flick of the lower leg rather than kicking through it. I also think we should be looking into his running mechanics. Seems to take twice as many steps than necessary. 

10 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

Howes kick doesn’t look too bad here:

Maybe not as fluid an action as the top end kicks, but decent touch and can get good distance.

I think McVee is the best kick of our 2021 draft crop. His foot skills look very, very good.

Very high ball drop.

Hopefully you're right about getting good depth with his kicks as that is important attribute for a potential winger.

From the very short clip of McVee on the MFC website he looks to have a strong technique

Edited by binman

 
4 minutes ago, binman said:

Very high ball drop.

Hopefully you're right about getting good depth with his kicks as that is important attribute for a potential winger.

From the very short clip of McVee on the MFC website he looks to have a strong technique

Have seen him clear 50m relatively comfortably, the concern with that ball drop is the reduced time he’ll have to get the ball from hand to foot at AFL level. The speed of the game will be a big adjustment.

 

3 hours ago, Mach5 said:


Your obsession and over-analysis of my posts is flattering! Thanks for your insightful input as always.

If hoping one of our players is better than bloody Andrew Mackie (of all players in the history of the game) is a crime, lock me up. 
Heaven forbid.

Still no details on Mackies weaknesses. Really I just think you comment wildly with rash generalisations and maybe your knowledge is very shallow.

Imagine if any of our Coaches reported like this a player would not know what they were good at or not. 

Really not worth reading your posts Mach 5 as they lack critical detail . M


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • GAMEDAY: Essendon

    It’s Game Day, and the Demons are staring down the barrel of an 0-5 start for the first time since 2012 as they take on Essendon at Adelaide Oval for Gather Round. In that forgettable season, Melbourne finally broke their drought by toppling the Bombers. Can lightning strike twice? Will the Dees turn their nightmare start around and breathe life back into 2025?

      • Like
    • 40 replies
    Demonland
  • PREVIEW: Essendon

    As the focus of the AFL moves exclusively to South Australia for Gather Round, the question is raised as to what are we going to get from the  Melbourne Football Club this weekend? Will it be a repeat of the slop fest of the last three weeks that have seen the team score a measly 174 points and concede 310 or will a return to the City of Churches and the scene where they performed at their best in 2024 act as a wakeup call and bring them out of their early season reverie?  Or will the sleepy Dees treat their fans to a reenactment of their lazy effort from the first Gather Round of two years ago when they allowed the Bombers to trample all over them on a soggy and wet Adelaide Oval? The two examples from above tell us how fickle form can be in football. Last year, a committed group of players turned up in Adelaide with a businesslike mindset. They had a plan, went in confidently and hard for the football and kicked winning scores against both home teams in a difficult environment for visitors. And they repeated that sort of effort later in the season when they played Essendon at the MCG.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 0 replies
    Demonland
  • PREGAME: Essendon

    Facing the very real and daunting prospect of starting the season with five straight losses, the Demons head to South Australia for the annual Gather Round, where they’ll take on the Bombers in search of their first win of the year. Who comes in, and who comes out?

      • Thanks
    • 489 replies
    Demonland
  • NON-MFC: Round 05

    Gather Round is here, kicking off with a Thursday night blockbuster as Adelaide faces Geelong. The Crows will be out for redemption after a controversial loss last week. Saturday starts with the Magpies taking on the Swans. Collingwood will be eager to cement their spot in the top eight, while Sydney is hot on their heels. In the Barossa Valley, two rising sides go head-to-head in a fascinating battle to prove they're the real deal. Later, Carlton and West Coast face off at Adelaide Oval, both desperate to notch their first win of the season. The action then shifts to Norwood, where the undefeated Lions will aim to keep their streak alive against the Bulldogs. Sunday’s games begin in the Barossa with Richmond up against Fremantle. In Norwood, the Saints will be looking to take a scalp when they come up against the Giants. The round concludes with a fiery rematch of last year's semi-final, as the Hawks seek revenge for their narrow loss to Port Adelaide. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons besides us winning?

      • Thanks
    • 190 replies
    Demonland
  • CASEY: Geelong

    There was a time in the second quarter of the game at the Cattery on Friday afternoon when the Casey Demons threatened to take the game apart against the Cats. The Demons had been well on top early but were struggling to convert their ascendancy over the ground until Tom Fullarton’s burst of three goals in the space of eight minutes on the way to a five goal haul and his best game for the club since arriving from Brisbane at the end of 2023. He was leading, marking and otherwise giving his opponents a merry dance as Casey grabbed a three goal lead in the blink of an eye. Fullarton has now kicked ten goals in Casey’s three matches and, with Melbourne’s forward conversion woes, he is definitely in with a chance to get his first game with the club in next week’s Gather Round in Adelaide. Despite the tall forward’s efforts - he finished with 19 disposals and eight marks and had four hit outs as back up to Will Verrall in the second half - it wasn’t enough as Geelong reigned in the lead through persistent attacks and eventually clawed their way to the lead early in the last and held it till they achieved the end aim of victory.

      • Like
    • 0 replies
    Demonland
  • REPORT: Geelong

    I was disappointed to hear Goody say at his post match presser after the team’s 39 point defeat against Geelong that "we're getting high quality entry, just poor execution" because Melbourne’s problems extend far beyond that after its 0 - 4 start to the 2025 football season. There are clearly problems with poor execution, some of which were evident well before the current season and were in play when the Demons met the Cats in early May last year and beat them in a near top-of-the-table clash that saw both sides sitting comfortably in the top four after round eight. Since that game, the Demons’ performances have been positively Third World with only five wins in 19 games with a no longer majestic midfield and a dysfunctional forward line that has become too easy for opposing coaches to counter. This is an area of their game that is currently being played out as if they were all completely panic-stricken.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 0 replies
    Demonland