Farewell Luke Jackson

[DeeSpencer 25,657]

4 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Gold Coast need Bowes off their books, not pick 7. 

I mean 13 for taking on Bowes. 
 

Gold Coast thought Bowes was so bad and expensive he required pick 7. Geelong are spreading his contract over 4 years and talking him up big time.

Pick 13 should probably get Bowes off, except GC have no concept of negotiation.

[chook fowler 19,458]

Stinks.

[Jaded No More 68,880]

Just now, DeeZee said:

Freo and GWS win big time in that deal

Its bad enough as it is, but how did we lose Bedford for nothing?

I am so disappointed that the club has come out and said we want 2 top 10 picks for Jackson and more than pick  44 for Bedford, and somehow we agreed to both deals that we didn't want.

I am all for getting deals done, but this has really been a bad outcome unless something magical happens and we turn the Jackson picks into gold.

[layzie 33,793]

1 minute ago, DeeZee said:

Freo and GWS win big time in that deal

Its bad enough as it is, but how did we lose Bedford for nothing?

I'm guessing 44 to Freo was from GWS. So the deal from Freo is effectively for Jackson AND Bedford?

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,500]

It’s done!  Finally! Bring on the draft and let’s move into 2023.

Freo got a good deal, but also gave everything that they had to give; those expecting more were always going to be disappointed.  For all the talk, it really did turn out that he was always going to Fremantle and they knew it.

Asides from letting him go to the PSD, the club did everything it could.

 

[RedFox 522]

Shocking outcome. Our haul is the minimum we should have received for Jackson let alone losing Bedford for essentially nothing. Pretty annoyed at this

[BDA 22,742]

We got the best deal we could in the circumstances. Best to move on with our other business.

We have a reputation for being fair to deal with. It's the right policy. Except when it comes to Freo. The next time we deal with them, and we have the leverage, we should screw them to the boards.

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

2 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Asides from letting him go to the PSD, the club did everything it could.

Nah, Tim Lamb needs to come out and give a forensic account to us, the most important stakeholders in the organisation. It's an indictment on the FD that they signed off on this... 😂

The amount of posters with greater expertise in negotiating on here amazes me 👌

Edited October 10, 2022 by Engorged Onion

[The Jackson FIX 3,099]

12 minutes ago, rolling fog said:

We can only truly pass judgement at 8pm on Wednesday.

Draft night trading also

[wheaters31 675]

In 12 months time we will have a similar situation with JVR requesting a trade to the Eagles.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, BDA said:

We got the best deal we could in the circumstances. Best to move on with our other business.

We have a reputation for being fair to deal with. It's the right policy. Except when it comes to Freo. The next time we deal with them, and we have the leverage, we should screw them to the boards.

Reckon we preemptively screwed them with the Hogan deal...

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

31 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

 

I thought the AFL wouldn’t let you trade Futures in more than 1 round?

[layzie 33,793]

I'm happy we got something but I really think this needed to result in a pick inside 10. Really hope there's draft day action. 

[DemonWA 3,932]

People crying about the deal forget that he isn't in contract so our 'hand' was never as strong as it would have needed to be to get 2 top 10 picks or whatever the talk was about at the start of the trade period.

Pick 13 isn't shabby 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Just now, CYB said:

I thought the AFL wouldn’t let you trade Futures in more than 1 round?

Freo have North's future 2nd, so it's all good.

[SFebes 4,884]

Tim Lamb: Demands 2 x top 10 picks - one inside 7, won't trade Weideman, wants more than 44 for Bedford.......can we start a whipping ceremony now? 

Edited October 10, 2022 by SFebes

[DeeSpencer 25,657]

Bedford’s value was only ever to increase a second rounder up the order or a 3rd rounder.

We got 2 firsts for Luke.

We got half a 2nd for Luke, half for Toby.

We gave up nothing else.

Would’ve liked the full bonus 2nd rounder for Luke but Freo weren’t going to budge without something back. 

[DeeSpencer 25,657]

2 minutes ago, CYB said:

I thought the AFL wouldn’t let you trade Futures in more than 1 round?

You can if you get one in. Freo got North’s for Logue 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

No doubt we’d be looking to move 13, F1 to top 5 pick

[dazzledavey36 54,823]

2 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Tim Lamb: Demands 2 x top 10 picks, won't trade Weideman, wants more than 44 for Bedford.......can we start a whipping ceremony now? 

Tim Lamb has really confused me with this.

Don't talk a big talk if you can't back it up Tim..

[layzie 33,793]

6 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Nah, Tim Lamb needs to come out and give a forensic account to us, the most important stakeholders in the organisation. It's an indictment on the FD that they signed off on this... 😂

The amount of posters with greater expertise in negotiating on here amazes me 👌

I'll go you one better, we need to assemble a panel of former MFC list managers and heads of the FD in the next 24 hrs who understand football and can hold Lamb accountable to his actions. In future they will also bar any trades that can't be justified, this will be known as the concil of MFC trading. 

Edited October 10, 2022 by layzie

[Redleg 40,889]

20 minutes ago, rolling fog said:

We can only truly pass judgement at 8pm on Wednesday.

Well maybe not until the 2023 draft and trading is completed and even then, maybe not until any draftees we take in 22 and 23 form is exposed, in another few years.

[Tom Dyson 1,633]

Not sure how we went from saying we’d at least do really well out of this deal to this outcome.

absolute scam job this. 

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,164]

10 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

Freo and GWS win big time in that deal

Its bad enough as it is, but how did we lose Bedford for nothing?

Because he was out of contract and no other club showed realistic interest in a player we did not see in our best 22 this year. 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

Tim Lamb has really confused me with this.

Don't talk a big talk if you can't back it up Tim..

Something else will bob up now I reckon, perhaps something we haven't expected much.

We get deals done like this when we have something else to get on with I reckon.