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4 minutes ago, Winter Dan said:

We cld push the Freo low ball onto the Pies Grundy deal.

Ie. ' we wont accept Freo deal and therefore look to sign Jackson up for another year or two, thereby forgoing the Grundy deal, unless Pies accept a late 2 rounder rather than 1st (incl cap support), to which we would accept the Freo deal. 

 

Why would Jackson sign for another one or two? He’ll go into ND or PSD if we don’t get a trade done.

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    16 minutes ago, old55 said:

    13 + Logue to North for 8

    8 + F1st to us for Jackson + 32

    This appears to be where it is heading (well, at least if Port’s pick 8 is in play).

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    1 hour ago, Action Jackson said:

    Something will get done and we will get roughly what we want.

    The Eagles are just sitting and watching at the moment but may come hard.

    If they split pick 2 for picks 5 & 7 from the Suns then suddenly they are right in the hunt.

    Nobody is giving up pick 5 & 7 for pick 2.

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    16 minutes ago, old55 said:

    13 + Logue to North for 8

    8 + F1st to us for Jackson + 32

    This makes sense, however is the longest and messiest option. The JHF news only really broke last night, while it has been bubbling under the service, so it's likely to take a very long time for them (Port & Nth) to work through. Unlike our talks with Freo which would have been happening for weeks. In fact there's so many deals this trade period that are just messy and relying on other deals to be done first.

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    Jackson to North . JHF to us as a swap. OK mums..

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    25 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

    Why would Jackson sign for another one or two? He’ll go into ND or PSD if we don’t get a trade done.

    And end up at North.

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    1 hour ago, grazman said:

    Game plan related?  Hunt has pace, from what others are saying that is Bowes achilles heel. 

    Yeah, I just feel Bowes can give them better use of the footy and maybe more capacity to go into the middle.

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    36 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

    Nobody is giving up pick 5 & 7 for pick 2.

    I didn't mean just a straight swap, there would be other picks involved.

    But if they do want to do the Bowes deal for 7 it won't happen anyway.

     

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    1 hour ago, old55 said:

    13 + Logue to North for 8

    8 + F1st to us for Jackson + 32

    Then what do we use for Grundy? Please god not a 1st rounder 🙏 

    PS. I like the idea of Freo's future 1st, bc I wonder if they might slide back a little and also because of the quality of next years draft

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    Just now, Stiff Arm said:

    Then what do we use for Grundy? Please god not a 1st rounder 🙏 

    I've got F2nd + Bedford to GWS for 21 in my daydreams ....

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    4 minutes ago, old55 said:

    I've got F2nd + Bedford to GWS for 21 in my daydreams ....

    we might get pick 40 for Bedford. then package 32 and 40 to a club for pick ~24.

    send 24 to Pies

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    O hope I'm wrong but feel like we're going to get stooged with this one..

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    6 hours ago, rpfc said:

    After North loses a kid from interstate they are not going to take another ‘wantaway’ player in the PSD. The only leverage we have is with WCE being in the race for him. But that comes with the not insignificant chance of us getting nothing for him.

    We are going to settle for less than market because Freo just won’t be able to get near market for him.

    North get him for free, even if it's only for a year or so, so they are in the equation.  They will know they won't get him long term but even short term with loads of salary cap space, they may as well grab him for a year or so

    Back in 2012/2013 we would have acquired such a player and taken the chance that he might stay longer

    However, I highly doubt it would get that far anyway.  But we need to hold firm

    By the way, I still value Jackson highly.  He has the potential to be an A grade player.  So in effect, we need to have a keeper mentality

    As previously noted, the club has almost certainly told Freo what we need in return so they need to come to the party

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    27 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    O hope I'm wrong but feel like we're going to get stooged with this one..

    That is probably true but I'm sure many will try to sell the deal as great

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    3 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    I was thinking that too.

    However If he's that home sick and absolutely must return to WA (which he must be if he's quitting the club he won a flag at) and a trade can't be arranged then I think there's more chance he sits out a year of footy then comes back to the MFC.

    I'm sure a trade will be arranged though even if we have to accept unders. He's out of contract so we don't hold the whip hand. If he was under contract then we could ask for overs.

     

    If he can't get to WA and doesn't go to North I'd prefer him to sit out rather than play a year at Melbourne.  That would be disruptive in all sorts of ways.  (But a deal will be done is much more likely.)

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    2 hours ago, The Jackson FIX said:

    Nobody is giving up pick 5 & 7 for pick 2.

    Absolutely you would 

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    WC list manager says they are definitely in the hunt for Jackson.

    This is a very good scenario for us as it keeps Freo honest during discussions and if they genuinely want him they have the trade capital to get it done.

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    1 hour ago, Macca said:

    North get him for free, even if it's only for a year or so, so they are in the equation.  They will know they won't get him long term but even short term with loads of salary cap space, they may as well grab him for a year or so

    Back in 2012/2013 we would have acquired such a player and taken the chance that he might stay longer

    However, I highly doubt it would get that far anyway.  But we need to hold firm

    By the way, I still value Jackson highly.  He has the potential to be an A grade player.  So in effect, we need to have a keeper mentality

    As previously noted, the club has almost certainly told Freo what we need in return so they need to come to the party

    I bet you one billion dollars Jackson doesn't end up at North. It's simply not in play.

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    2 minutes ago, Action Jackson said:

    WC list manager says they are definitely in the hunt for Jackson.

    This is a very good scenario for us as it keeps Freo honest during discussions and if they genuinely want him they have the trade capital to get it done.

    WC are just saying this to keep the PSD threat live.

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    3 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

    I couldn't care less - I'm glad he's gone

    Cya

    Well, you could care less

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    9 minutes ago, old55 said:

    WC are just saying this to keep the PSD threat live.

    They said they'd be open to splitting pick 2 so you're completely wrong. Not only that, there is zero bad blood between Jackson and club and I'd be absolutely astonished if Jackson rejected a move to West Coast if Freo couldn't make the deal work. The amount of posters who believe the PSD is a risk is funny really. It would take an incredibly rare turn of events for it to go down that path from here. 

    West Coast's interest puts pressure on Freo to get it done. 

    We'll be fine either way. 

     

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    2 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

    They said they'd be open to splitting pick 2 so you're completely wrong. Not only that, there is zero bad blood between Jackson and club. It's astounding the amount of posters who believe the PSD is a risk.

    Forces Freo to get it done otherwise West Coast will pounce. 

    We'll be fine either way. 

     

    Your second paragraph assumes your first paragraph hypothesis is wrong. It’s a risk or it’s not.

    Its a risk and I hope it gets Freo to give up something of value.

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    40 minutes ago, old55 said:

    I'll bet you one billion dollars Jackson doesn't end up at North

    At no stage did I ever say that Jackson will end up at North

    But it is a possibility if an agreement isn't made with Freo or West Coast

    Same as when Nick Stevens ended up at Carlton (pre-season draft) when Port wouldn't accept unders from Collingwood in a trade

    And I'd be surprised if we don't reach an agreement with one of the WA clubs (probably Freo) for Jackson

    But I'll take the Billion to 1 odds anyway ... I'll have a fiver on at those odds

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    5 minutes ago, Macca said:

    And I'd be surprised if we don't reach an agreement with one of the WA clubs (probably Freo) for Jackson

     

     

    Could have reached an in principle agreement already.

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