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4 minutes ago, Winter Dan said:

We cld push the Freo low ball onto the Pies Grundy deal.

Ie. ' we wont accept Freo deal and therefore look to sign Jackson up for another year or two, thereby forgoing the Grundy deal, unless Pies accept a late 2 rounder rather than 1st (incl cap support), to which we would accept the Freo deal. 

 

Why would Jackson sign for another one or two? He’ll go into ND or PSD if we don’t get a trade done.

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16 minutes ago, old55 said:

13 + Logue to North for 8

8 + F1st to us for Jackson + 32

This makes sense, however is the longest and messiest option. The JHF news only really broke last night, while it has been bubbling under the service, so it's likely to take a very long time for them (Port & Nth) to work through. Unlike our talks with Freo which would have been happening for weeks. In fact there's so many deals this trade period that are just messy and relying on other deals to be done first.

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1 hour ago, old55 said:

13 + Logue to North for 8

8 + F1st to us for Jackson + 32

Then what do we use for Grundy? Please god not a 1st rounder 🙏 

PS. I like the idea of Freo's future 1st, bc I wonder if they might slide back a little and also because of the quality of next years draft

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6 hours ago, rpfc said:

After North loses a kid from interstate they are not going to take another ‘wantaway’ player in the PSD. The only leverage we have is with WCE being in the race for him. But that comes with the not insignificant chance of us getting nothing for him.

We are going to settle for less than market because Freo just won’t be able to get near market for him.

North get him for free, even if it's only for a year or so, so they are in the equation.  They will know they won't get him long term but even short term with loads of salary cap space, they may as well grab him for a year or so

Back in 2012/2013 we would have acquired such a player and taken the chance that he might stay longer

However, I highly doubt it would get that far anyway.  But we need to hold firm

By the way, I still value Jackson highly.  He has the potential to be an A grade player.  So in effect, we need to have a keeper mentality

As previously noted, the club has almost certainly told Freo what we need in return so they need to come to the party

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3 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I was thinking that too.

However If he's that home sick and absolutely must return to WA (which he must be if he's quitting the club he won a flag at) and a trade can't be arranged then I think there's more chance he sits out a year of footy then comes back to the MFC.

I'm sure a trade will be arranged though even if we have to accept unders. He's out of contract so we don't hold the whip hand. If he was under contract then we could ask for overs.

 

If he can't get to WA and doesn't go to North I'd prefer him to sit out rather than play a year at Melbourne.  That would be disruptive in all sorts of ways.  (But a deal will be done is much more likely.)

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1 hour ago, Macca said:

North get him for free, even if it's only for a year or so, so they are in the equation.  They will know they won't get him long term but even short term with loads of salary cap space, they may as well grab him for a year or so

Back in 2012/2013 we would have acquired such a player and taken the chance that he might stay longer

However, I highly doubt it would get that far anyway.  But we need to hold firm

By the way, I still value Jackson highly.  He has the potential to be an A grade player.  So in effect, we need to have a keeper mentality

As previously noted, the club has almost certainly told Freo what we need in return so they need to come to the party

I bet you one billion dollars Jackson doesn't end up at North. It's simply not in play.

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2 minutes ago, Action Jackson said:

WC list manager says they are definitely in the hunt for Jackson.

This is a very good scenario for us as it keeps Freo honest during discussions and if they genuinely want him they have the trade capital to get it done.

WC are just saying this to keep the PSD threat live.

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9 minutes ago, old55 said:

WC are just saying this to keep the PSD threat live.

They said they'd be open to splitting pick 2 so you're completely wrong. Not only that, there is zero bad blood between Jackson and club and I'd be absolutely astonished if Jackson rejected a move to West Coast if Freo couldn't make the deal work. The amount of posters who believe the PSD is a risk is funny really. It would take an incredibly rare turn of events for it to go down that path from here. 

West Coast's interest puts pressure on Freo to get it done. 

We'll be fine either way. 

 

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2 minutes ago, JimmyGadson said:

They said they'd be open to splitting pick 2 so you're completely wrong. Not only that, there is zero bad blood between Jackson and club. It's astounding the amount of posters who believe the PSD is a risk.

Forces Freo to get it done otherwise West Coast will pounce. 

We'll be fine either way. 

 

Your second paragraph assumes your first paragraph hypothesis is wrong. It’s a risk or it’s not.

Its a risk and I hope it gets Freo to give up something of value.

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40 minutes ago, old55 said:

I'll bet you one billion dollars Jackson doesn't end up at North

At no stage did I ever say that Jackson will end up at North

But it is a possibility if an agreement isn't made with Freo or West Coast

Same as when Nick Stevens ended up at Carlton (pre-season draft) when Port wouldn't accept unders from Collingwood in a trade

And I'd be surprised if we don't reach an agreement with one of the WA clubs (probably Freo) for Jackson

But I'll take the Billion to 1 odds anyway ... I'll have a fiver on at those odds

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