23 minutes ago, CYB said:

I actually think they cannot. Salem is a mile off 2021 form and is really back to his pre 2021 form where he was just serviceable and would have a above avg game every 4-5 matches. 

Bowey is a great kick but is a small body with not a lot of speed. He may come good in a few years but at this stage his trajectory is looking to be more of a role player. Rivers ,  No.

You may not accept this assessment, but to implement a fast ball movement game plan, you simply cannot rely on the guys above given what we have seen this year. 

If only Hunt was a more reliable kick and an a-grade decision maker. 

 

But if Hunt was he would be be costing us 800k a year.

With the others, compare them to the disposal you saw yesterday, ours stacks up and if we have speed by leg and ball movement Langers becomes more dangerous, our forwards have spaces and one on ones and not a stacked back 50. 
The slow movement isn’t helping.

21 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Should be dropped for Weideman next week.

Jackson is stealing valuable ruck minutes off the best ruckman in the league and you’d back Weid over Jackson as a mostly stay at home forward.

😬🤦🏼‍♂️

Not sure which way LJ will decide.
But having a look through the Dockers list to see if any add-on players could be in a Jackson deal.  Sure we could ask for Haydn Young or Andy Brayshaw but we need to be realistic.  
We could ask for Freo 1st round pick for 2022 & 2023 & a player.  
Ruckman Lloyd Meek could be a good backup for Max Gawn. Meek is a huge 203 cms 105 kgs.  Behind Darcy as the key ruckman.  Another is youngster Josh Treacy could be one to consider. He’s a solid tough young key forward from country Victoria.  Still developing and just turned 20yo.  If we think that Tmcd is close to the end, BBB has probably only 2023 left given his knee issues and the Weid is not the answer, then we need another young key forward to be alongside JVR in years to come. Might be worth checking in on Treacy’s availability as a handy set of “added steak knives” in a deal. 

On 9/1/2022 at 6:21 PM, Grand New Flag said:

Rubbish, I have been pretty much completely absent for at least 5 years. Just could not be bothered telling you my mail only to be abused. For some reason I have felt like taking on the DL abusive bullies this week.  I must be quiet at work!!!!

For the record saying who we are making a play for should never be read as we are getting.

In saying all of that if Jackson goes which is likely the Dees will almost certainly get Grundy.  We have made a huge play for him. But this you can read in the MSM and this does not mean its 100%.

You've been pretty much absent except for coming onto the boards last year and this year to pot our current president.

3 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Are you suggesting we will lose?

Yep we are limping to line with injuries.

Fremantle do not have al lot to get a deal for Luke Jackson done. Going to take a third party to be involved.

 

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

This fits perfectly with the narrative that Luke just doesn't know what he wants. Melbourne have played this perfectly, giving him time and not an ultimatum. 

I still think it's more likely he leaves, but would be very happy if he signs on for 2 years

On 9/1/2022 at 6:12 PM, Grand New Flag said:

If I told you, you would not believe me anyway.  Regardless clearly I cant tell you this. I would never be privy to this information again and I would destroy a good thing.  Its up to you if you want to believe me or not.  I will however, have a long list of abusive DLs I will be expecting an apology form in October.

There's a specific form that needs to be completed when making an apology to you?

A touch beauracratic I would have thought.

20 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Jon Ralph reporting we are raging favourites to get Grundy in. 
🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

Whateley on AFL 360 said in his segment with Goodwin and Hardwick that the narrative around Jackson to the west has changed recently.  Goodwin maintained the give him all the time he needs line.  I reckon it's likely he stays.

1 minute ago, Swooper1987 said:

Whateley on AFL 360 said in his segment with Goodwin and Hardwick that the narrative around Jackson to the west has changed recently.  Goodwin maintained the give him all the time he needs line.  I reckon it's likely he stays.

I reckon we are genuinely treating the situation with compassion. He is young, he is uncertain, so we are treating him well and supporting him rather than pressuring him to sign. A hard sell might push him further away.

57 minutes ago, Vineytime said:

Jon Ralph reporting we are raging favourites to get Grundy in. 
🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

Oh no!  Let’s not help Collingwood with their sal. cap problems.

Grundy is a star….. but 29 ,and under an injury cloud.

Edited September 5, 20222 yr by Jumping Jack Clennett
Typo

Demons handling the LJ situation very well. Supporting him and not adding pressure. Giving us the best chance to retain him 

On 9/4/2022 at 2:00 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

Not sure which way LJ will decide.
But having a look through the Dockers list to see if any add-on players could be in a Jackson deal.  Sure we could ask for Haydn Young or Andy Brayshaw but we need to be realistic.  
We could ask for Freo 1st round pick for 2022 & 2023 & a player.  
Ruckman Lloyd Meek could be a good backup for Max Gawn. Meek is a huge 203 cms 105 kgs.  Behind Darcy as the key ruckman.  Another is youngster Josh Treacy could be one to consider. He’s a solid tough young key forward from country Victoria.  Still developing and just turned 20yo.  If we think that Tmcd is close to the end, BBB has probably only 2023 left given his knee issues and the Weid is not the answer, then we need another young key forward to be alongside JVR in years to come. Might be worth checking in on Treacy’s availability as a handy set of “added steak knives” in a deal. 

We don't need Meek unless he's steak knives Lobb is the one I'd be interested there is talk that he's on the move. He can kick goals too unlike Jackson and Grundy.

1 minute ago, WERRIDEE said:

We don't need Meek unless he's steak knives Lobb is the one I'd be interested there is talk that he's on the move. He can kick goals too unlike Jackson and Grundy.

I agree. Lobb would be a suitable trade and give us what we need. But I heard he wants to go to the Dogs. Surely we are a better match if LJ goes. 

8 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I agree. Lobb would be a suitable trade and give us what we need. But I heard he wants to go to the Dogs. Surely we are a better match if LJ goes. 

Lobb is 1 or2 cm. shorter than Gawny, but lacks the heart…..badly. Too timid to play ruck.A bit slow up forward. Can mark, but doesn’t often . Good set shot for goal though.

If we lose Jackson to Freo, get Meek back to Melbourne ( Lobb should be called “Meek”!) as the proverbial “steak knives” in a trade deal.

3 minutes ago, Jumping Jack Clennett said:

Lobb is 1 or2 cm. shorter than Gawny, but lacks the heart…..badly. Too timid to play ruck.A bit slow up forward. Can mark, but doesn’t often . Good set shot for goal though.

If we lose Jackson to Freo, get Meek back to Melbourne ( Lobb should be called “Meek”!) as the proverbial “steak knives” in a trade deal.

Yes agree it’s not Lobb for LJ … he’s as steak knives with 1st round draft pick. But Lobb does have the ability to kick goals and relieve ruck which is what we would need to aim to get to replace LJ if he goes. 

On 9/1/2022 at 6:21 PM, Grand New Flag said:

Rubbish, I have been pretty much completely absent for at least 5 years. Just could not be bothered telling you my mail only to be abused. For some reason I have felt like taking on the DL abusive bullies this week.  I must be quiet at work!!!!

For the record saying who we are making a play for should never be read as we are getting.

In saying all of that if Jackson goes which is likely the Dees will almost certainly get Grundy.  We have made a huge play for him. But this you can read in the MSM and this does not mean its 100%.

Don't worry GNF all fun and games better to have some gossip than none at all. Don't worry about those keyboard bullies. 

Edited September 5, 20222 yr by WERRIDEE

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

This news is bound to net us another 50+ pages on this thread.

Onya Gerard 

Well one thing we can probably be sure of is, if LJ stays, Grundy is not coming.

No need for Grundy if he stays. Buy someone else

On 9/4/2022 at 11:35 AM, BW511 said:

Not sure Trac offers much as a stay at home forward. He need to be in the game

Errr Trac cant kick goals unfortunately   19 G 30 BH for 2022

Averages just under a goal a game so he isnt going to make much difference

Edited September 5, 20222 yr by Kent

Play Jacko more up forward this week.