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Farewell Luke Jackson

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9 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

I'm hoping Dogga stays as he is likely to be a very special player.  He's showing all the signs - particularly given his age - but he's not there yet. He could be anything - the next Schwarz pre knee, Kouta, Goodes or something unlike anyone else that has played - or he may end up as a talented tall utility that can play anywhere but never masters a position.

It makes me think if I were a Freo supporter and we were giving up this year and next year's first round picks and Meek (as an example) and potentially losing some other players who think Jackson will take their spot or eat up too much of their salary cap... is this deal worth it?  Isn't this selling the farm?  Are they really just Jackson away from a premiership or do they need a few more young talented players coming through?  

I'm not doubting his value particularly when you see what the biggest trades have netted in recent years... but I feel like if it goes ahead, it could blow up in Freo and Luke's face.   There will be a lot of pressure on the kid to perform if this is what they have to give up.

The whole 'next David Schwarz'  narrative  really does get a good flogging on here, but he's no way at that level at all, or ever will be. 

Ox pre knee was primed in becoming a genuine superstar of the competition. At one stage he was on par with Wayne Carey as the best player of the competition. I rate Carey alongside Leigh Matthews and Gary Ablett Snr as one of the best ever players we've seen come through. 

Luke Jackson will be a very good ruckman in years to come. Imo I think he is a tad short for a ruckman in being able to reach the levels of a Dean Cox or Max Gawn of being that star factor in his rightful position. 

Close comparisons imo would be a Jeff White or Stefan Martin who were able to win the footy 20-25 possessions a game and play as that extra midfielder due to their high athleticism.

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    So much still to play out. We really should just forget about it, and re-visit after we win the flag.

    What happens if LJ plays another key role in a GF win, and Freo bombs out early. Be so very tough to leave. And he could back-flip a decision at any moment during his many post flag celebration beers 🍻 

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    12 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

    There is a post on BF Draft/Trades board from one of our supporters saying Dogga has re-signed.

    I got excited here but the bloke who posted this admitted in another thread he was just trolling Freo supporters. I think having the Melksham jumper snatch as his avatar might have also been a hint. 

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    11 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

    I got excited here but the bloke who posted this admitted in another thread he was just trolling Freo supporters. I think having the Melksham jumper snatch as his avatar might have also been a hint. 

    BF in a nutshell..

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    I wonder with Mundy "retiring" if this adds $$$ to their offer for LJ. Can any of the WA posters confirm if he was on big money. I thought he played well last week and was a little surprised that he had announced his retirement. He might of been pushed into retirement.

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    7 minutes ago, Longsufferingnomore said:

    I wonder with Mundy "retiring" if this adds $$$ to their offer for LJ. Can any of the WA posters confirm if he was on big money. I thought he played well last week and was a little surprised that he had announced his retirement. He might of been pushed into retirement.

    With the exception of Buddy and his long term deal, players of Mundy's age would probably be on year-to-year deals, with a mid tier base salary plus heavy incentives. Given how consistently great Mundy has been, he would still be earning good coin.

    No doubt that it frees up coin for Jackson. 

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    57 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

    There is a post on BF Draft/Trades board from one of our supporters saying Dogga has re-signed.

    That poster just admitted they were trolling. 😒

    Edit: Soz, this has been mentioned already. 

    Edited by Mel Bourne

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    48 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

    I got excited here but the bloke who posted this admitted in another thread he was just trolling Freo supporters. I think having the Melksham jumper snatch as his avatar might have also been a hint. 

    It did work on me. Probably made the Freo supporters uber angry.

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    2 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

    It did work on me. Probably made the Freo supporters uber angry.

    clint, if you really want to troll the freo wanchors, go back there and suggest that freo are considering a swap of andrew brayshaw for dogga. naturally you heard it from a good source close to the club.

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    2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    The whole 'next David Schwarz'  narrative  really does get a good flogging on here, but he's no way at that level at all, or ever will be. 

    Ox pre knee was primed in becoming a genuine superstar of the competition. At one stage he was on par with Wayne Carey as the best player of the competition. I rate Carey alongside Leigh Matthews and Gary Ablett Snr as one of the best ever players we've seen come through. 

    Luke Jackson will be a very good ruckman in years to come. Imo I think he is a tad short for a ruckman in being able to reach the levels of a Dean Cox or Max Gawn of being that star factor in his rightful position. 

    Close comparisons imo would be a Jeff White or Stefan Martin who were able to win the footy 20-25 possessions a game and play as that extra midfielder due to their high athleticism.

    Yeah I agree he's not going to be the next Schwarz.  But if he continues at the rate of improvement he is going at since debuting then he could end up as a genuine superstar of the comp.  I mentioned Goodes and Kouta because they could play anywhere and troubled teams due to their unique assets - too tall, agile, strong - for anyone to go with them.

    But I agree that I think he's unlikely to be able to do this solely as a ruckman.

    Obviously everyone has their own opinions but I think he's likely to be a better player than White or Martin - White might have him covered at Centre bounces but I think Jackson would have him covered once the ball hits the ground and with his ability to work in traffic.  And while Stefan Martin has been an incredible player with unique abilities (strength and speed for a big man) I don't think he has the natural ability / game sense that Jackson has - certainly didn't at the age Jackson is now!

    But my main point was, all of this is hypothetical.  It's still so much for Freo to pay when you don't know if he will reach those heights.

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    3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

     

    Close comparisons imo would be a Jeff White or Stefan Martin who were able to win the footy 20-25 possessions a game and play as that extra midfielder due to their high athleticism.

    Bwahahahahahahah

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    24 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

    Bwahahahahahahah

    Yeah could be worse. I could have compared him to Jack Watts but he was ridiculously soft.

    Jacko at least cracks in.

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    1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

    Oh well.

     

    As unlikely to be part of a trade as Andy Bray, Serong or Young.

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    2 minutes ago, mo64 said:

    As unlikely to be part of a trade as Andy Bray, Serong or Young.

    Well, we won't be accepting magic beans...

     

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    3 hours ago, deelusions from afar said:

    Yeah I agree he's not going to be the next Schwarz.  But if he continues at the rate of improvement he is going at since debuting then he could end up as a genuine superstar of the comp.  I mentioned Goodes and Kouta because they could play anywhere and troubled teams due to their unique assets - too tall, agile, strong - for anyone to go with them.

    But I agree that I think he's unlikely to be able to do this solely as a ruckman.

    Obviously everyone has their own opinions but I think he's likely to be a better player than White or Martin - White might have him covered at Centre bounces but I think Jackson would have him covered once the ball hits the ground and with his ability to work in traffic.  And while Stefan Martin has been an incredible player with unique abilities (strength and speed for a big man) I don't think he has the natural ability / game sense that Jackson has - certainly didn't at the age Jackson is now!

    But my main point was, all of this is hypothetical.  It's still so much for Freo to pay when you don't know if he will reach those heights.

    Feel like the best proxy for Jackson I’ve seen is Paddy Ryder who won an Anzac medal as a young ruck after taking over due to injury mid game. Not dissimilar to Jackson in the grand final last year during the 3rd qtr. Also handy as a resting fwd but not to the point he could play as a genuine fwd full time.

    It’s what makes Freo throwing big money at Jackson so bizarre when they arguably have the best young ruck already in Darcy. Surely they have other needs to address first. Jackson will probably go ok as fwd but you really want to be playing him as a 1st ruck to get full value and in a few years that would naturally happen at dees. At Dockers baring injury he might never get the chance.

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    In my opinion, Jackson will sign a two year deal with the Dees...

    Why...? Fremantle don’t have the Picks to land him this year. And Jackson will do right by the Dees and not walk to West Coast in the pre-season draft for nothing...!
    Cerra couldn’t get to the Dees last year because we had no picks! That’s really why he went to Carlton for Pick 6.

    If Jackson is going to WA. He is going to West Coast for Pick 2 and there future 1st rounder and possibly a fringe forward or ruck.

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    10 minutes ago, Deetention said:

    In my opinion, Jackson will sign a two year deal with the Dees...

    Why...? Fremantle don’t have the Picks to land him this year. And Jackson will do right by the Dees and not walk to West Coast in the pre-season draft for nothing...!
    Cerra couldn’t get to the Dees last year because we had no picks! That’s really why he went to Carlton for Pick 6.

    If Jackson is going to WA. He is going to West Coast for Pick 2 and there future 1st rounder and possibly a fringe forward or ruck.

    Agree mate, I can't believe that he could get to freo when they have zip to give us. For two years the media has said superstar superstar but are happy to report he's as good as signed with a club that has very little or willing to trade to us.

     

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    Freo would have to find the picks and /or players. Bulldogs gave up pick 6 and their Captain for Tom Boyd. So i expect Freo will have to cough up a lot to snare Luke at his age, talent and room for growth.

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    7 hours ago, Longsufferingnomore said:

    I wonder with Mundy "retiring" if this adds $$$ to their offer for LJ. Can any of the WA posters confirm if he was on big money. I thought he played well last week and was a little surprised that he had announced his retirement. He might of been pushed into retirement.

    Dunno, would he be earning that much? Would probably be on the veteran's list too so they save there.

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    Freo 1st round pick plus Darcy for Luke and some loose change?

    Darcy contracted to Freo to 2024 and allegedly on around $600k. Good chance to leave Freo in 2024 in  any case.

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    Freo demanded and got pick 2 for Lachie Weller. That would value Jackson as the whole city of Fremantle.

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    31 minutes ago, layzie said:

    Dunno, would he be earning that much? Would probably be on the veteran's list too so they save there.

    Is that still a thing?

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