2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Not at all. LJ is top shelf. The Club want to keep him. Why should we be compromised?

LJ is a proven Finals Player. He changed the GF. 

LJ is more advanced as a player than young Brayshaw, who is yet to play a final

You give away Gold too easily 

Clearly Thailand has tickled your sense of reality.

I applaud the confidence, however you are wrong and it will not happen the way you hope. 

Look forward to reading the SWYL outrage if Dogga goes west! Lol!

3 minutes ago, adonski said:

He's contracted for a few more years. There's zero chance they'd trade him even if he was keen. 

 

Oh well, bad luck Freo, no Jacko for you then.

Glad some demonland posters aren’t our list manager. 

Edited June 29, 20222 yr by 1964_2

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

as ca pointed out, false news, red

house wrecked in floods, moved to church during renovations, had permission from church owner

 

Well that’s better news than what I read.

9 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Not at all. LJ is top shelf. The Club want to keep him. Why should we be compromised?

LJ is a proven Finals Player. He changed the GF. 

LJ is more advanced as a player than young Brayshaw, who is yet to play a final

You give away Gold too easily 

Brayshaw is their future captain. They would value him more than they would Jackson.

I'm not saying you are wrong. Jackson would probably be more value to us with our lack of talls and abundance in the middle.

Losing both Cerra and Brayshaw would be a massive blow for them.

3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Well that’s better news than what I read.

just what everyone here has been saying about journalism these days, eh?

So can someone give us the short version of the process

Say he wants to go, and we want to keep him... what happens

If Freo offer more, they still need to trade, right? Or do we need to match? What of they have s.f.a picks?

What's the enforcement likelihood?

Or is that only RFA? 🤔 

59 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Brayshaw and high draft picks is the only acceptable outcome from Freo. 
We should not be compromised at all, Freo cannot be given a Free Hit over this. 
if Jacko leaves IT MUST come at a large cost

 

Playing Devils advocate if Freo did not allow us to trade/draft in May, Sparrow and Langdon we may still be waiting for a premiership. I understand the mindset but going by history Fremantle have been pretty good to us (trade wise).

Edited June 29, 20222 yr by Jibroni

2 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

So can someone give us the short version of the process

Say he wants to go, and we want to keep him... what happens

If Freo offer more, they still need to trade, right? Or do we need to match? What of they have s.f.a picks?

What's the enforcement likelihood?

Or is that only RFA? 🤔 

only for rfa

if he wants to go, we have to do a trade deal with whoever. if that fails and he still wants to he goes into the draft with no guarantees who gets him

 

11 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Say he wants to go, and we want to keep him... what happens

He's not a free agent, so if he wants to go then he has to rely on a suitable trade being arranged.  The advantage we have is that there will be interest from both WA clubs who will probably have similar offers on the table should that be his decision.  

 

Edited June 29, 20222 yr by grazman

36 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Disappointing to read on here the so called parents are the ones questioning Jackson's character. Times have changed and just because your kids may have adjusted moving out, some don't adjust as easily.

Ouch. 

25 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

What if Brayshaw said he wanted to go back to Victoria?

What if his brother was unsigned while waiting to see if they could end up playing together in Melbourne?

(Not goss, just conspiracies out loud...)

20 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

Oh well, bad luck Freo, no Jacko for you then.

Glad some demonland posters aren’t our list manager. 

You do realise he's out of contract? It's not like he's contracted and we can control what he can and can't do.

If you're not wanting Freo to come to the party, especially if he has nominated them, then he can walk straight to the PSD (very unlikely outcome as we WILL trade with whoever he nominates between both WA clubs).

Jackson & Rivers for Brayshaw. 😉

6 hours ago, sue said:

What's with this pressure to return home by young adults to be near family and friends?  Our kids buzzed off to pursue careers and other things and have made new friends wherever they went. And without the sort of money in the bank that AFL players can have (if they have any sense).  They still keep in touch with old friends and family which these days is 1000 times easier than it was only 25 years ago.  Do footy players never grow up?

Yeah, I'm probably a rotten parent.

I lived in Perth for 20 years and I'll be back there ASAP, best city in Oz

If there is no suitable trade Jackson walks to the  pre-season draft and spends a year at Nth before asking for another trade or he signs on for another year with the dees, hanging out in a great culture with mates looking for a third premiership and asks for a trade the following year? 

Am i wrong? And whats bad about that scenario for MFC ? 

 

When was the last time a gun player was traded to a club for another gun player? Andrew Brayshaw extended his contract less than a year ago until the end of 2025, he isn’t going anywhere and I won’t be drawn into the hypothetical of “but what happens if he asks to go to Melbourne?” I will donate an eyeball to science if Andrew Brayshaw is involved in the trade of Luke Jackson (not that I think LJ is going anywhere. Your anxiety over the issue doesn’t mean he is leaving..) 

Edited June 29, 20222 yr by Ethan Tremblay

9 hours ago, sue said:

Goodwin seemed to be pumping up Jackson's price in his presser today. Read into that what you wish.

He seemed pretty confident to me. We don't normally go to press with excitement and positivity unless we know a deal in our favour is close or already over the line. I reckon he's staying.

100% with SWYL on this.

If he leaves the cost of Brayshaw and a first round. Minimum 

If the 10 mill over 7 years is correct. That's double what they'll be paying brayshaw over the journey. Should they think THAT highly of Jackson. The cost is massive in terms of trade value.

Any less and it completely rorts the system. Any less he goes to the Draft and straight to North

I would rather see Jacko get stuck at Norf if Freo are not prepared to offer a suitable trade. Call freakin Freo's bluff if it comes to that. 

I do however have a cunning plan*.

If it will keep him at MFC, the Club could offer him a 2 year extension with the proviso that if he still wants to leave (after the 2 year extension) the Club will do whatever is reasonably necessary to facilitate a trade to his preferred club. Hopefully he will have fallen in love with Melbourne in the meantime and not want to leave. Or fallen in love with a Melbourne girl (or boy if that is his preference) who doesn't want to leave Melbourne.

Gotta think outside the square.

 

*as per Baldrick

 

30 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

only for rfa

if he wants to go, we have to do a trade deal with whoever. if that fails and he still wants to he goes into the draft with no guarantees who gets him

I believe he can nominate for the preseason draft rather than the national draft, in which case WCE have first pick and still keep their first ND pick of 1 or 2.

Or have they changed that rule?

However, I highly doubt Dogga or the clubs would let it get to that

Edited June 29, 20222 yr by Stiff Arm

when he's a 2x premiership player, 1x rising star it'll be hard to begrudge him becoming the highest paid player in the game...at 21 and after four seasons of playing footy

dude is a freak

6 minutes ago, Winter Dan said:

If there is no suitable trade Jackson walks to the  pre-season draft and spends a year at Nth before asking for another trade or he signs on for another year with the dees, hanging out in a great culture with mates looking for a third premiership and asks for a trade the following year? 

Am i wrong? And whats bad about that scenario for MFC ? 

 

This idea that 'once he nominates Freo there is nothing we can do and we HAVE to trade with them as if they have us over a barrel is BS. Hard'n up people. 

If Jacko doesn't get exactly what he wants in a trade, so be it. He obviously still loves the dees, so im sure he'll cope just fine if theres no trade. Plenty of players have experienced that.

Im super confident he doesnt want to play at Nth and super confident Nth would 't let him slide by - being a hugely tradeable asset the following year. 

Its up to Freo to convince us to let him go. So what are they going to do about it?

When it was Lever, we had to give up up 2 x firsts. May was pick 5 or so. We have to agree to the deal. 

13 minutes ago, Winter Dan said:

This idea that 'once he nominates Freo there is nothing we can do and we HAVE to trade with them as if they have us over a barrel is BS. Hard'n up people. 

If Jacko doesn't get exactly what he wants in a trade, so be it. He obviously still loves the dees, so im sure he'll cope just fine if theres no trade. Plenty of players have experienced that.

Im super confident he doesnt want to play at Nth and super confident Nth would 't let him slide by - being a hugely tradeable asset the following year. 

Its up to Freo to convince us to let him go. So what are they going to do about it?

When it was Lever, we had to give up up 2 x firsts. May was pick 5 or so. We have to agree to the deal. 

You really do struggle to understand how a player trade works don't you..

Edited June 29, 20222 yr by dazzledavey36

39 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

When was the last time a gun player was traded to a club for another gun player? Andrew Brayshaw extended his contract less than a year ago until the end of 2025, he isn’t going anywhere and I won’t be drawn into the hypothetical of “but what happens if he asks to go to Melbourne?” I will donate an eyeball to science if Andrew Brayshaw is involved in the trade of Luke Jackson (not that I think LJ is going anywhere. Your anxiety over the issue doesn’t mean he is leaving..) 

the last time.....well there was the chris judd, josh kennedy trade.....that worked out well

just saying

4 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

the last time.....well there was the chris judd, josh kennedy trade.....that worked out well

just saying

At the time, Josh Kennedy wasn't considered a gun. He was in and out of the senior team and was also playing VFL for the Northen Bullants

Completely different scenario.