Would be shocked if we delisted him.

At worse just offer him a 1 year deal.

McDonald is pretty much cooked imo. Weideman certainly has an opportunity next year to cement that spot next to Brown.

No way he isn’t on an AFL list next year.

He might not be have ever fully cemented himself, but he’s too good for the scrap heap

 

 

Tbh a 2 year deal wouldn’t be a bad option. 
I doubt it would cost us a lot in $$$ but gives him time and us coverage worst.

Wasn’t his manager shopping him for a ridiculous price last year/early this year?

That backfired 

I am not believing some Clubs are not interested in Weideman. Lot of water to go under the bridge yet.

  On 14/09/2021 at 06:42, Lord Travis said:

If we can’t get anything decent for him, then keep him. He’s decent depth at worst and won’t command a big salary. Still has potential at 24 to develop further and play an important role in future seeing as our other KPFs are all nearing the end of their careers.

Based on his output this year, he is not decent depth at all.

He was putid almost every time he set foot on the ground this year.

I would rather play a bunch of midgets than give him another chance

Well if Weiderman wasn't offered a new contract by us, would Mitch Brown possibly get another 1 year deal as insurance should someone get injured next season? 

  On 14/09/2021 at 09:16, wizardinoz said:

Well if Weiderman wasn't offered a new contract by us, would Mitch Brown possibly get another 1 year deal as insurance should someone get injured next season? 

I actually have more trust in Brown than Weideman to perform a role but still would like Sam to get a contract with us next year

There will be interest in the Weid too good a player. Collingwood, North, Essendon and Freo for starters would be interested in him.

  On 14/09/2021 at 09:16, wizardinoz said:

 

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Doubled up

I’m sure there is interest but perhaps not at the terms desired. He should stay for two years and reach FA and give himself a chance to push out TMac or BBB.

If nobody offers anything for him worthwhile, and if there aren’t really many clubs interested I think we could do worse than offer him a 2 year deal at close to bottom dollar with performance based incentives. 

He has a bit of a Miller like feel about him, show plenty early and have a purple patch that makes him look like a future star but never seem to find that click into the next level on a consistent basis. 

Personally I say keep him, none of our current key forwards are spring chickens. 

I would have liked him to be mentored by May.

He needs to learn how to compete and to be physical. I have always believed that Weid would make a good CHB. Petty looks a chance to play FWD with his physicality.

It can't hurt to have multiple strings to your bow.

  On 07/09/2021 at 12:20, Redleg said:

Tom Mac, Hunt, Spargo, ANB, Viney, Brayshaw,Tomlinson, Fritsch, Harmes, JJ and Sparrow.

Question: Know what these 11 players have in common.

Answer: Plenty of the experts on DL wanted them gone over the last few years.

 

  On 07/09/2021 at 21:27, picket fence said:

God damn it who are these EXPERTS😇

Don't you own a mirror.

  On 14/09/2021 at 08:37, jnrmac said:

Can we turn him ino a defender?

Behind May Lever Tomlinson Petty and maybe Turner?  

  On 14/09/2021 at 08:53, dazzledavey36 said:

Would be shocked if we delisted him.

At worse just offer him a 1 year deal.

McDonald is pretty much cooked imo. Weideman certainly has an opportunity next year to cement that spot next to Brown.

Tom is contributing more than his raw possessions stats show and I wouldn’t describe him as cooked  - that said Weid would be worth hanging on to, if mutually agreeable terms can be reached. 

The talent levels are spread thin throughout the league especially with regards to KPF's so Sam might get offered a 2 year deal elsewhere on ok money ($300k - $350k per year?)

If we let him go what do we get in return?  A pick in the mid to late 30's?

Otherwise we could keep him on a lower amount of around $225k - $275k.  Entering his 7th year, anything less than that is entering delist territory

I still believe what is holding him back is self confidence.  If he can overcome that he might be a player.  Needs more aggression & needs to learn how to play in front (even just to feed our small forwards as T-Mac often does)

 

  On 14/09/2021 at 08:53, dazzledavey36 said:

Would be shocked if we delisted him.

At worse just offer him a 1 year deal.

McDonald is pretty much cooked imo. Weideman certainly has an opportunity next year to cement that spot next to Brown.

Pretty much my thoughts Dazzle. Our preferred forward structure includes two KPFs plus Jacko & Fritta. Given our 2 current keys forwards are approaching veteran status, we would be mad to punt the Weed as we have no other young KPF on the list. If one of BBB or TMac go down, at the very least Weed can fill a role.

Weid has rucked in the VFL and got a fair bit of ball around the ground.

Who do we have after Max and LJ to ruck?

Not saying he is a ruckman but he can pinch hit there and after BB and Tom who are the next key forwards?

IMO he stays unless we have someone to replace him with.

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  On 14/09/2021 at 11:13, monoccular said:

Behind May Lever Tomlinson Petty and maybe Turner?  

Tom is contributing more than his raw possessions stats show and I wouldn’t describe him as cooked  - that said Weid would be worth hanging on to, if mutually agreeable terms can be reached. 

He just looked cooked to me. Since he's back injury he looks he's got concrete boots on and can barely break out in a gallop.

Just remember at the start of the pre season both Brown and Weideman were the preferred forward options over McDonald. 

In fact they definitely did prefer him as they initially were training McDonald up to be a wingman. Wasn't until both went down with injuries that this opened up the spot for him.

If Weideman stays and is able to get through the summer unscathed and injury free then I think they'll prefer trial the Weideman and Brown combo.

Problem with Weideman is that he's a man who's lost complete confidence in himself. I would trust a Mark Williams to assist him in regaining that confidence back.

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I'd imagine Weid gets offered a contract no matter what, and Mitch Brown goes off the list, and Gunston hopefully signs on

  On 14/09/2021 at 13:01, Dwight Schrute said:

I'd imagine Weid gets offered a contract no matter what, and Mitch Brown goes off the list, and Gunston hopefully signs on

I reckon if we get Gunston and then target a backup (mature) ruck, Weid is in big strife.

Tmac had 9 kicks, 5 marks, 5 hand passes, 11 contested possessions. Kicked a goal. Eh average game, fair nuff.

But Weidman has had better stats than this in all of 2 of his 49 games.  We're looking at apples v oranges here imo. 

If Tomlinson comes back fit, id like to see Petty shifted to forward to replace Tmac eventually. Definitely a top 22 player who can take a grab and shown excellent contested work.  

 

  On 14/09/2021 at 13:26, Jjrogan said:

Tmac had 9 kicks, 5 marks, 5 hand passes, 11 contested possessions. Kicked a goal. Eh average game, fair nuff.

But Weidman has had better stats than this in all of 2 of his 49 games.  We're looking at apples v oranges here imo. 

If Tomlinson comes back fit, id like to see Petty shifted to forward to replace Tmac eventually. Definitely a top 22 player who can take a grab and shown excellent contested work.  

 

Geez he has been good in a key post down back though.

Looks to be a rare find. Would be difficult for them to move him when he has found his groove.

Tommo on the other hand was moved down back because he failed in the role we recruited him for.

  On 14/09/2021 at 13:01, Dwight Schrute said:

I'd imagine Weid gets offered a contract no matter what, and Mitch Brown goes off the list, and Gunston hopefully signs on

I don't understand the Gunston move he only has 1 year left with his bad back. Why waste a player on the list? He's signed on at the Hawks until 2022 isn't he? I don't think he would get a game.

HF: NEAL - BULLEN, MCDONALD, PICKETT

F: SPARGO, B.BROWN, FRITSCH.

Their is no one he can replace he will spend his time in the 2's. Keep Weid if they think McDonald is cooked but I don't think he is cooked he's got a couple of years in him especially if that barracker not supporter dopey Dazzle thinks he's cooked then surely he has more years in him. Know nothing clown. Eventually Jackson can take over the CHF\ruck role if McDonald isn't up to it.