15 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

 

You are an old movie fan BBO?  Me too, I have a collection of about 2000 old films.

That’s quite a collection, DVD’s?

4 minutes ago, old dee said:

That’s quite a collection, DVD’s?

Yep DVD’s Thats the slimmed down collection, used to be nearly double the size before I moved to Perth. 

4 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Get onto the Shiraz bob - far more effective.

Little Giant Shiraz, from the Barrossa. Has a Wombat on the label.  To plagiarise Molly, do yourself a favour. They also do a nice Pinot Gris if you can find it.

I spoke to a client of mine last week who is very close to Sam, and he said that Sam is absolutely gutted after last week's game. He absolutely felt the pressure of needing to perform and felt sick at half time. The social media vitriol had hit him hard too

38 minutes ago, low flying Robbo said:

I spoke to a client of mine last week who is very close to Sam, and he said that Sam is absolutely gutted after last week's game. He absolutely felt the pressure of needing to perform and felt sick at half time. The social media vitriol had hit him hard too

Unfortunately BBB waiting in the background is probably the worse thing possible for someone like Weid, think he probably needs a sport psychologist more than a Mark Williams to get his development back on track

45 minutes ago, Left Foot Snap said:

Little Giant Shiraz, from the Barrossa. Has a Wombat on the label.  To plagiarise Molly, do yourself a favour. They also do a nice Pinot Gris if you can find it.

Ha ha !! I’ll get @picket fence to comment on this left foot - he’s a fan boy of little giant!

1 hour ago, John Crow Batty said:

 

You are an old movie fan BBO?  Me too, I have a collection of about 2000 old films.

Not actually an old movie fan John Crow but a Sherlock Holmes fan

1 hour ago, low flying Robbo said:

I spoke to a client of mine last week who is very close to Sam, and he said that Sam is absolutely gutted after last week's game. He absolutely felt the pressure of needing to perform and felt sick at half time. The social media vitriol had hit him hard too

That’s not nice to hear, I hope the young bloke is ok. A therapist/sports psychologist would definitely be something I hope he’s having provided to him (or he’s seeking out), most of us if we have a bad day at the office nobody but a few people will give a crap. AFL players have a bad day and they’ve got thousands of people calling for them to be dropped or worse, while they have media analysts inspecting every part of their game in open forums. Easy enough to say but he should be staying away from social media.

9 hours ago, COOLX said:

The Weid should play defence in the reserves for a while ( with constant covid lock downs, may never play again ). He could become another T.Mac. Change of surname not an option.

Exactly CoolX I made this point about a week ago. To let Sam go without trying him at CHB or FB at Casey is ridiculous.

Stefan  Martin was one player who was a great FB and although I believe there was mitigating circumstances just position was another reason ie ruck that led him to bring played out of position I MO with us. 

11 hours ago, Doug Reemer said:

Same years of development would make Weideman look worse.

You are not picking DR  The comparison is fine as 50 games is a good sample,

Unfortunately the further it goes on it appears that it is a giant mental issue with Sam who no matter what can't get enough ball or the confidence to lead or have any presence on the field.

Back to Casey in defence to see if he can mark and play y to he ball in front of him.Clearly his kicking is also lacking confidence.

BBB must get his chance now as we can not keep our forward  line with no output and a big player to put pressure on the opposition.

If BBB is not the answer then Mitch Brown. must be given a chance. In a few weeks time. 

 

8 hours ago, low flying Robbo said:

I spoke to a client of mine last week who is very close to Sam, and he said that Sam is absolutely gutted after last week's game. He absolutely felt the pressure of needing to perform and felt sick at half time. The social media vitriol had hit him hard too

As much as i feel the anger at him not being who we need him to be, I also feel for Weid. it really does seem so much of the issue is mental and  If anyone has experienced such things it can be hard or even impossible to change. Like all mental issues people immediately think it’s just being weak. It isn’t.  

I  wonder with the pedigree he has just how deep the “ expectation” story runs in him and whether it may just be too much to get past. I also wonder if he and his manager,  by going fr such a big contract, added more to the pile. Only he know that.

Personally i wish him well, but, barring a minor miracle, i think it’s time we started to get used to life without him. sad as it is fr all parties. 

 

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8 hours ago, low flying Robbo said:

I spoke to a client of mine last week who is very close to Sam, and he said that Sam is absolutely gutted after last week's game. He absolutely felt the pressure of needing to perform and felt sick at half time. The social media vitriol had hit him hard too

That’s sad to hear - the club can’t play a player in this mental space I don’t think. Not good for him or the team - back to the 2s for a reboot and get back the mojo

 

Hope he is off Twitter Insta etc

18 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

He's 23. That's still young for a key forward, especially one who was already considered a 'project' by the club whom drafted him.

Gawn didn't become a consistently good player until his 7th season.

So we gave up pick 9 for a project player??

If that is so which i doubt then its an appalling decision Why not pick some one else ie a non project player

 

9 hours ago, low flying Robbo said:

I spoke to a client of mine last week who is very close to Sam, and he said that Sam is absolutely gutted after last week's game. He absolutely felt the pressure of needing to perform and felt sick at half time. The social media vitriol had hit him hard too

if he listens to carp on social media then he is a fool Turn it off mate!

 

14 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Has there been one person since the day he was drafted that thought "Weideman is the messiah"?

not me Lord !

9 hours ago, low flying Robbo said:

I spoke to a client of mine last week who is very close to Sam, and he said that Sam is absolutely gutted after last week's game. He absolutely felt the pressure of needing to perform and felt sick at half time. The social media vitriol had hit him hard too

Never mind social media, he only needs to come on here for a daily fix of vitriol. ?

6 minutes ago, Kent said:

if he listens to carp on social media then he is a fool Turn it off mate!

 

Easier said than done. His generation aren’t hardwired to think like we do. 

It’s time we let him find a new club and some clear air. 

20 hours ago, old dee said:

I struggle with your second last para. How does it affect players what is said on here? It is a serious question.

"sources in the media are saying" etc

2 hours ago, Superunknown said:

That’s sad to hear - the club can’t play a player in this mental space I don’t think. Not good for him or the team - back to the 2s for a reboot and get back the mojo

 

Hope he is off Twitter Insta etc

I'm still of the opinion they should have bought Weid in over Ben Brown for that first opportunity after he kicked a bag (Even if it was weak opponents)

He is clearly a confidence player and kicking a bag and still not getting picked seems to have completely killed his confidence before he even got into the senior side

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2 hours ago, Superunknown said:

That’s sad to hear - the club can’t play a player in this mental space I don’t think. Not good for him or the team - back to the 2s for a reboot and get back the mojo

 

Hope he is off Twitter Insta etc

Agree, reboot for a month or over pre season. If a forward gets injured he is next up so we still need him. Some might recall he struggled with his contract year last time for a period ... extend he by one or two years on modest money with good incentives and take the shackles off him

 

40 minutes ago, BW511 said:

I'm still of the opinion they should have bought Weid in over Ben Brown for that first opportunity after he kicked a bag (Even if it was weak opponents)

He is clearly a confidence player and kicking a bag and still not getting picked seems to have completely killed his confidence before he even got into the senior side

Jeez, that’s not great if that is the case…

I think he is more likely to be impacted by his actual play in the seniors. He needed to draw his confidence from what his role was and not worry so much about clunking marks and kicking goals. Case in point would be the Dogs game that saw him impact the game with contests and he did kick a couple but still had him sheepish after the game. 

The whole performance anxiety of “you should be kicking 5 a game playing for the Dees at the moment, mate” is more where I think he is at.

I haven’t written him off, even for 2021, but I would play Brown ahead of him. Getting dropped is not the end of the world and while it may affect his confidence - I think he needs to reassess his KPIs. Marks and goals will come later.

Sam is no different to any other footballer. If he is out of form and lacking confidence then he should be playing at Casey.

He should accept that is best for him atm and concentrate on working to improve those areas of his game that seem off - timing of his marking, body position, leading patterns, tackling etc whatever the coaching staff believe he needs to improve

I am not in the camp that its too hard and just ship him off for a second round pick. Its important to remember he had a serious set back earlier in the year and that hasn't helped 

I certainly think that he should avoid reading outside views on social media - nothing good will come from that 

8 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Sam is no different to any other footballer. If he is out of form and lacking confidence then he should be playing at Casey.

He should accept that is best for him atm and concentrate on working to improve those areas of his game that seem off - timing of his marking, body position, leading patterns, tackling etc whatever the coaching staff believe he needs to improve

I am not in the camp that its too hard and just ship him off for a second round pick. Its important to remember he had a serious set back earlier in the year and that hasn't helped 

I certainly think that he should avoid reading outside views on social media - nothing good will come from that 

He def should avoid social media. But he is OOC and that means that for us to keep him as he is currently constructed - we would want him at league average ($400k) and I don’t know if that is where he and his agent thinks he should be.